[ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform

[aidia]

Dividend does not go down. 100m ICN tokens will receive same amount of dividends. But if funding goes higher, you receive less ICN.

This is what I was supposed to mean in the first place. Less ICN, less dividends.

[MrPresident]

RELAX
Stop worrying about the estimated total amount of coin you will receive.
The only thing that matters as an investor is the actual percent of profit you make because the total number of coin you receive has nearly no correlation with the possible profit % outcome.
The 100m tokens are distributed according to the weight of your investment, plus bonuses ofc.
The total number of tokens distributed doesn't change with total ICO investment size, only your amount of tokens does.
example a:
If you put in 1 EUR and ended up with 5 ICN at launch for a beginning value of 20 cents a token that rises to 25 cents a week later you make 20% profit. You now have $1.20
example b:
If you put in 1 EUR and ended up with 10 ICN for a beginning value of 10 cents a token, it rises to 12 cents for the same 20% profit, you again have $1.20.

So, in short; the only thing that will increase your chance for higher profit is a larger investment, not less investors buying the ICO tokens.
cheers

[BitBanksy]

From 55k per BTC, the allotment of ICN went down to less than 14k.... Will something be left by the end of the campaign 😂😂😂?

That means value of ICN increased!:)

Not really since the value is proportionate with the amount of investors and tokens. Right now the value per token stand @ $0.0378991318... The same value as per day one... 😉

You have a point. But mathematically not:) if we raise 8.5m USD then each token would be worth 0.10 USD. Now it's less.

$0.085 to be exact and if 8.5m are raised... I don't disagree with the way ICONOMI decided to raise funds but I personally would have rather wished to buy a predefined amount of ICN from the start instead of seeing allotments decreasing every single day.... At this speed, I've calculated that by the end of the ICO, the allotment should be around 2K per BTC invested...

[aidia]

If you put in 1 EUR and ended up with 5 ICN at launch for a beginning value of 20 cents a token that rises to 25 cents a week later you make 20% profit. You now have $1.20

We are thinking this differenlty.

I do not really care about the 20% profit quick bucks, that I can do with any other project there is lol.

I plan to HODL, that's why I'm interested in the dividends.

[MrPresident]

If you put in 1 EUR and ended up with 5 ICN at launch for a beginning value of 20 cents a token that rises to 25 cents a week later you make 20% profit. You now have $1.20

We are thinking this differenlty.

I do not really care about the 20% profit quick bucks, that I can do with any other project there is lol.

I plan to HODL, that's why I'm interested in the dividends.

Aah, I see ... but know this: Dividends will only be paid out while ICO funds last. When ICO funds are gone, so are ICN dividends... and they plan on using some ICO funding to help fund the "performance.fund".
I wish the dividends were 4 ever hehe

[BitBanksy]

Dividend does not go down. 100m ICN tokens will receive same amount of dividends. But if funding goes higher, you receive less ICN.

This is what I was supposed to mean in the first place. Less ICN, less dividends.

More funds = less ICN = less dividends

A deja vue, the whales will rake everything again...

[StratisKing]

Dividend does not go down. 100m ICN tokens will receive same amount of dividends. But if funding goes higher, you receive less ICN.

This is what I was supposed to mean in the first place. Less ICN, less dividends.

More funds = less ICN = less dividends

A deja vue, the whales will rake everything again...

Right, the simple logic behind fixed ico coins to be distributed:  more funds = less coins = higher ico price. less funds = more coins = lower ico price.

For example, Waves has a 30k btc funding, their ico price is very high, about 36k sat without bonus. While smaller ico like stratis, has almost same ico supply, with 915 btc funding, the ico price is 1129 sat.

[aidia]

If you put in 1 EUR and ended up with 5 ICN at launch for a beginning value of 20 cents a token that rises to 25 cents a week later you make 20% profit. You now have $1.20

We are thinking this differenlty.

I do not really care about the 20% profit quick bucks, that I can do with any other project there is lol.

I plan to HODL, that's why I'm interested in the dividends.

Aah, I see ... but know this: Dividends will only be paid out while ICO funds last. When ICO funds are gone, so are ICN dividends... and they plan on using some ICO funding to help fund the "performance.fund".
I wish the dividends were 4 ever hehe

Then I have good news for you from user ICONOMI

Dividends will be permanent!

But for as long as we have money raised during ICO we'll distribute 100% of our profits as dividends to ICN holders.
When we sometime in future burn money during raised during ICO we'll finance operations from profits made by funds. The rest of the profits will be distributed to ICN token holders.

That means that all ICN token holders will be receiving dividends in 1 months / 1 year / 10 years / 100 years... ICN token will always bring u weekly dividend.

[MrPresident]

If you put in 1 EUR and ended up with 5 ICN at launch for a beginning value of 20 cents a token that rises to 25 cents a week later you make 20% profit. You now have $1.20

We are thinking this differenlty.

I do not really care about the 20% profit quick bucks, that I can do with any other project there is lol.

I plan to HODL, that's why I'm interested in the dividends.

Aah, I see ... but know this: Dividends will only be paid out while ICO funds last. When ICO funds are gone, so are ICN dividends... and they plan on using some ICO funding to help fund the "performance.fund".
I wish the dividends were 4 ever hehe

Then I have good news for you from user ICONOMI

Dividends will be permanent!

But for as long as we have money raised during ICO we'll distribute 100% of our profits as dividends to ICN holders.
When we sometime in future burn money during raised during ICO we'll finance operations from profits made by funds. The rest of the profits will be distributed to ICN token holders.

That means that all ICN token holders will be receiving dividends in 1 months / 1 year / 10 years / 100 years... ICN token will always bring u weekly dividend.

adia;
AAaaaaahhhh..
"When we sometime in future burn money during raised during ICO we'll finance operations from profits made by funds."
I see said the blind man..
Thank you..  amazingly good news...

OKAY I'm with ya... more coin= more profit no matter the exchange value

[tomkat]

If you put in 1 EUR and ended up with 5 ICN at launch for a beginning value of 20 cents a token that rises to 25 cents a week later you make 20% profit. You now have $1.20

We are thinking this differenlty.

I do not really care about the 20% profit quick bucks, that I can do with any other project there is lol.

I plan to HODL, that's why I'm interested in the dividends.

Aah, I see ... but know this: Dividends will only be paid out while ICO funds last. When ICO funds are gone, so are ICN dividends... and they plan on using some ICO funding to help fund the "performance.fund".
I wish the dividends were 4 ever hehe

Then I have good news for you from user ICONOMI

Dividends will be permanent!

But for as long as we have money raised during ICO we'll distribute 100% of our profits as dividends to ICN holders.
When we sometime in future burn money during raised during ICO we'll finance operations from profits made by funds. The rest of the profits will be distributed to ICN token holders.

That means that all ICN token holders will be receiving dividends in 1 months / 1 year / 10 years / 100 years... ICN token will always bring u weekly dividend.

It's really nice, but one condition has to be met: there must be profits for those dividends, and nobody cannot gurantee profits forever.
I can imagine however, that ICONOMI team can start paying dividends using the ICO funds in case there're no profits for some time
I'm sorry, but I always look for a weaknesses, and the major weakness here is basically this promise Dividends will be permanent! which i guess means perpetual or everlasting right?

[MrPresident]

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It's really nice, but one condition has to be met: there must be profits for those dividends, and nobody cannot gurantee profits forever.
I can imagine however, that ICONOMI team can start paying dividends using the ICO funds in case there're no profits for some time
I'm sorry, but I always look for a weaknesses, and the major weakness here is basically this promise Dividends will be permanent! which i guess means perpetual or everlasting right?

Hmm, I guess the real question would be "What happens when the funds show a loss?"

[kangertech]

Sorry guys, maybe is a stupid question  
I'd like to invest in this ICO, i know they accept BTC ETH LSK
is there a difference if i invest today directly with lisk or with btc? i mean, the value of my lisk that i send to the ICO is calculated now or when the ICO is closed? for exmple, i send 1000 lsk the value now is 0.00042btc so i send 0.42btc but everything can happen and my 1000 lsk at the end of ICO could value much less (or much more  )...the same with BTC sure but i think with less volatility, so any idea? Thanks a lot!

[MrPresident]

Sorry guys, maybe is a stupid question  
I'd like to invest in this ICO, i know they accept BTC ETH LSK
is there a difference if i invest today directly with lisk or with btc? i mean, the value of my lisk that i send to the ICO is calculated now or when the ICO is closed? for exmple, i send 1000 lsk the value now is 0.00042btc so i send 0.42btc but everything can happen and my 1000 lsk at the end of ICO could value much less (or much more  )...the same with BTC sure but i think with less volatility, so any idea? Thanks a lot!

yes, the bonuses make a difference... 10% right now for 2 more days

the currency type matters yes... which one will increase the most or hodl it's value best by the end of the ico?

[gomados]

People who sended only BTC at ico want to go down eth and lsk, because they will get more ico tokens.

[tomkat]

If you put in 1 EUR and ended up with 5 ICN at launch for a beginning value of 20 cents a token that rises to 25 cents a week later you make 20% profit. You now have $1.20

We are thinking this differenlty.

I do not really care about the 20% profit quick bucks, that I can do with any other project there is lol.

I plan to HODL, that's why I'm interested in the dividends.

Aah, I see ... but know this: Dividends will only be paid out while ICO funds last. When ICO funds are gone, so are ICN dividends... and they plan on using some ICO funding to help fund the "performance.fund".
I wish the dividends were 4 ever hehe

Then I have good news for you from user ICONOMI

Dividends will be permanent!

But for as long as we have money raised during ICO we'll distribute 100% of our profits as dividends to ICN holders.
When we sometime in future burn money during raised during ICO we'll finance operations from profits made by funds. The rest of the profits will be distributed to ICN token holders.

That means that all ICN token holders will be receiving dividends in 1 months / 1 year / 10 years / 100 years... ICN token will always bring u weekly dividend.

It's really nice, but one condition has to be met: there must be profits for those dividends, and nobody cannot gurantee profits forever.
I can imagine however, that ICONOMI team can start paying dividends using the ICO funds in case there're no profits for some time
I'm sorry, but I always look for a weaknesses, and the major weakness here is basically this promise Dividends will be permanent! which i guess means perpetual or everlasting right?

Hmm, I guess the real question would be "What happens when the funds show a loss?"

Yeah, you mean they will have to accept a loss? Oh, no is it possible at all that they can generate a loss?
But they can always start draining ICO funds in a hope for future profits.

[MrPresident]

People who sended only BTC at ico want to go down eth and lsk, because they will get more ico tokens.

theyre breaking it all down to fiat value for distribution so I dont think theres a difference

[XbladeX]

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It's really nice, but one condition has to be met: there must be profits for those dividends, and nobody cannot gurantee profits forever.
I can imagine however, that ICONOMI team can start paying dividends using the ICO funds in case there're no profits for some time
I'm sorry, but I always look for a weaknesses, and the major weakness here is basically this promise Dividends will be permanent! which i guess means perpetual or everlasting right?

YEa  major flaw as all crypto have is bull/bear market on bull any idiot can make money doing it on brear (falling prices) is art.
IF ICONOMI will have good traders and be able to short makets ^^ ICOnomi will be profitable all time if not it will fall.
For me ICOMINI is like crypto ETF now crypto will be in bull till stock market collapse all are waiting for it pump BTC and cash out.

[ICONOMI]

If you put in 1 EUR and ended up with 5 ICN at launch for a beginning value of 20 cents a token that rises to 25 cents a week later you make 20% profit. You now have $1.20

We are thinking this differenlty.

I do not really care about the 20% profit quick bucks, that I can do with any other project there is lol.

I plan to HODL, that's why I'm interested in the dividends.

Aah, I see ... but know this: Dividends will only be paid out while ICO funds last. When ICO funds are gone, so are ICN dividends... and they plan on using some ICO funding to help fund the "performance.fund".
I wish the dividends were 4 ever hehe

When we spend all ICO funds dividends will stay! We'll need to finance operation, but the rest of the profits will be still distributred as dividends.

Gentlemans, dividends are to stay 4ever!

[ICONOMI]

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It's really nice, but one condition has to be met: there must be profits for those dividends, and nobody cannot gurantee profits forever.
I can imagine however, that ICONOMI team can start paying dividends using the ICO funds in case there're no profits for some time
I'm sorry, but I always look for a weaknesses, and the major weakness here is basically this promise Dividends will be permanent! which i guess means perpetual or everlasting right?

Hmm, I guess the real question would be "What happens when the funds show a loss?"

When there is a loss, we might still get some revenue from maintenance fees. But if there is nothing to distribute, then dividends are at zero. All scenarious are possible. The only coin that guarantees you profit is Onecoin

[Axente]

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It's really nice, but one condition has to be met: there must be profits for those dividends, and nobody cannot gurantee profits forever.
I can imagine however, that ICONOMI team can start paying dividends using the ICO funds in case there're no profits for some time
I'm sorry, but I always look for a weaknesses, and the major weakness here is basically this promise Dividends will be permanent! which i guess means perpetual or everlasting right?

Hmm, I guess the real question would be "What happens when the funds show a loss?"

When there is a loss, we might still get some revenue from maintenance fees. But if there is nothing to distribute, then dividends are at zero. All scenarious are possible. The only coin that guarantees you profit is Onecoin

You as organisation wouldn't take a part of the profits? Or do you count your proffit in the cost of things?