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July 15, 2011, 10:06:40 PM
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We take every whitelist request seriously...
I am glad to hear this. Hard working moderators always have my respect and appreciation.

(and even year long lurkers, such as myself)
...but we can't read your mind. Nowhere in your request did you say that.

Why should it make a difference if someone claims to be a lurker? Anyone can do that. And no, you couldn't check my ip or anything, because I mostly browsed this site with Tor before needing to register.


Anyway, I know big forums have troubles with newbies. But a forced newbie section is quite extreme. FAQs and closing repeatedly asked questions by a sizable number of lower ranked moderators is the norm for a reason. It's much more friendly and doesn't create a giant hurdle that probably offends and deters intelligent new users more than your average joe.
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July 15, 2011, 10:07:53 PM
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SMF forums has some nice  modifications, that changes things bit harder for spambots!
I personally use 1 and 3 for my fps game clan forum and we have zero spam status Smiley
Akismet could make it surely more secured but i hate to reg in anywhere to get some
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July 15, 2011, 11:04:10 PM
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Due to a mass of trolling, only established posters are able to post in non-newbie sections. You are considered "established" if you have spent 4 hours online and have made 5 posts.


So basically I need to spam the newbie section 5 times and wait 4 hours so I can post on the form for the pool that I am in?
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July 15, 2011, 11:08:36 PM
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(and even year long lurkers, such as myself)
...but we can't read your mind. Nowhere in your request did you say that.

Why should it make a difference if someone claims to be a lurker? Anyone can do that. And no, you couldn't check my ip or anything, because I mostly browsed this site with Tor before needing to register.
It allows us to look for more subtle hints in the post to see if what they are saying is true. It's usually not something we look for, since it's usually not the case for most people.

Anyway, I know big forums have troubles with newbies. But a forced newbie section is quite extreme. FAQs and closing repeatedly asked questions by a sizable number of lower ranked moderators is the norm for a reason. It's much more friendly and doesn't create a giant hurdle that probably offends and deters intelligent new users more than your average joe.
Yeah, but we don't have, nor do we want, such a big moderator staff that we can do that. Hell, most of our moderators have their own projects they do outside of the forum. We're really understaffed, but we don't want to risk the possibility of a moderator becoming corrupt, as that's much worse. We don't even have the power to ban people.

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July 15, 2011, 11:21:55 PM
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Much more reasonable then a 50 post rule, at this way they can weed out most of the crap and not lose their minds over it, either.
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July 16, 2011, 12:01:38 AM
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This is a good idea.
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July 16, 2011, 01:25:06 PM
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I think the rules are okay I know of a lot of forums where they require a lot more hours and posts.

Personally I have spent easily over 10 hours each week over the past 2 months, but I finally joined today as a user so I can buy / sell stuff for bitcoins and realized I can't post until I go through these trials.
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July 16, 2011, 02:36:28 PM
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Well, I think they're a bit annoying. Four content-free posts in the Newbie section aren't that difficult.

Why don't you allow enabling an account with a Bitcoin transfer? I'd consider 1 Bitcent to be reasonable for purposes of spam blocking.
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July 16, 2011, 02:39:57 PM
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Well, I think they're a bit annoying. Four content-free posts in the Newbie section aren't that difficult.

Why don't you allow enabling an account with a Bitcoin transfer? I'd consider 1 Bitcent to be reasonable for purposes of spam blocking.

Because it's a fair assumption that newbies come here to learn about bitcoin, and are unlikely to have any already.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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July 16, 2011, 03:06:01 PM
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only want to earn some coins
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July 16, 2011, 06:57:01 PM
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Good way to weed out spam, and "rule breaking" post. Good Job!
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July 16, 2011, 08:57:35 PM
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As a newbie that sounds fair. Just putting my 2 cents  in. Greetings from the West Coast :-)
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July 16, 2011, 09:31:27 PM
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Gotta pay your dues to do more, I guess Smiley
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July 16, 2011, 09:49:33 PM
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I agree that five posts and four hours sounds pretty reasonable.  I think I can do it.
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July 17, 2011, 01:40:26 AM
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I wonder if something less rudimentary is better?  For example, paying a 0.01 BC fee to remove noob title?
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July 17, 2011, 03:34:04 AM
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I wonder if something less rudimentary is better?  For example, paying a 0.01 BC fee to remove noob title?

That sounds interesting, i would  definitely pay that amount in order to get rid of the noob title Smiley
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July 17, 2011, 07:49:48 AM
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The time limit is a good idea, but requiring post count I don't see as great, it just encourages people to post useless stuff in the newbie section.  Like this Smiley
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July 17, 2011, 10:33:42 AM
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I've been around for quite a while, but I am still labeled as a newbie as of today.
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July 17, 2011, 11:33:44 AM
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I see, this explains a few things about not being able to post Smiley
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July 17, 2011, 01:58:27 PM
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I wonder if something less rudimentary is better?  For example, paying a 0.01 BC fee to remove noob title?
Yeah, that sounds nice, would also give some extra income to the forum ^^
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