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August 03, 2011, 09:24:24 PM
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What about having alternate paths: say 4 hours and 250+ words posted, or 10 hours and a single post?  As a long-time lurker who's got some (hopefully!) interesting things to say, the current scheme encourages newbies to come as close to spam as possible to get their 5 posts, instead of encouraging them to post actual content.
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August 04, 2011, 04:42:34 PM
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What about having alternate paths: say 4 hours and 250+ words posted, or 10 hours and a single post?  As a long-time lurker who's got some (hopefully!) interesting things to say, the current scheme encourages newbies to come as close to spam as possible to get their 5 posts, instead of encouraging them to post actual content.

Or captcha the first 5 or so posts to prevent bots/discourage spammers?
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August 04, 2011, 05:33:15 PM
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so I have to wait 4 hours eh....
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August 04, 2011, 07:47:00 PM
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Wait, does the time factor involve time spent on the forum, or time since the account was created? It's fine either way, but I don't really see how it cuts down on spam if it's the latter rather than the former.
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August 04, 2011, 09:55:28 PM
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Okay, that made it clear for me.

You need to have a post for being able to PM.
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August 05, 2011, 06:59:23 AM
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this is great. when I first joined it was 50 or maybe I just read it wrong. Well now I'm excited to become a real member. Unrestricted here I come!
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August 05, 2011, 09:44:20 AM
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restrictions are annoying.
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August 05, 2011, 04:29:42 PM
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Makes good sense to me!
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August 06, 2011, 02:17:42 AM
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Since it seems like everybody has to post in this thread, I thought I'd leave this here rather than start a new thread.

As this is the de facto forum for bitcoin discussion, this policy actively discourages what should be a growing bitcoin community. I've read this forum a decent amount before I even tried to register, and limiting people like this prevents bitcoin from growing amongst the general populace in order to protect a select few forum members from trolls.

It's downright ironic that the first poster in this thread was a very informed woman that is a value to the bitcoin community who seems to have been driven off of these forums by outright irrational hostility and misogyny from a consistent poster as opposed to any deliberate troll. That's better trolling than anybody else could imagine and it comes from a person who is still a member here. Unbelievable.
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August 06, 2011, 05:17:39 AM
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I understand the newbie restrictions...   but it is annoying.  I keep thinking I can reply to posts then I spend a minute trying to find the icon doh!

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August 06, 2011, 07:49:24 AM
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I understand the newbie restrictions...   but it is annoying.  I keep thinking I can reply to posts then I spend a minute trying to find the icon doh!

Same here! But Its cool if it keeps the trolls/spammers away.

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August 06, 2011, 09:12:24 AM
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Stupid barriers u put up here!
Do u want to get more members to the bitcoin community or do u want to scare them off?

Different approach: Let the first 5-10 posts of newbies be revised by admins before posted in order to filter out the troll posts (and users), in that way u have instant posting opportunities for new members and also control over whats being posted.

And now CLEAR ME ALREADY i got some IMPORTANT thread to launch (about a new indicator for price level development if u excuse)!

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Well, don't call anyone or anything here stupid, you'll have trouble making your important announcement.

I have some interesting (I believe) things to say myself, and I actually did make some posts in the old forum before these newbie restrictions were decided upon.

Well, I guess I have to just wait and make a few noises to get out of prison and be allowed to post.

Good thing the number of needed posts got restricted from 50 to 5!
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August 06, 2011, 12:36:41 PM
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i also favor the captcha or the "moderated posts" approach!
the current situation is really annoying... most newbies are eager to join discussions and simply lose interest by the time they finally get to be a fully qualified member.
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August 07, 2011, 02:03:11 AM
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Due to a mass of trolling, only established posters are able to post in non-newbie sections. You are considered "established" if you have spent 4 hours online and have made 5 posts.

If you have really good posts, you can post a request for preemptive whitelisting in the appropriate topic.

Also:
- You must have made one post in order to send PMs.
- You need 10 posts to put a link in your signature.
- You need 50 posts to put an image in your signature.

Note that it may take up to 10 minutes for your PM or posting permissions to be granted.

Nevermind.. I see the 4 hours + 5 posts..

BTW this is my post #5... can I be established now..

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August 07, 2011, 07:58:42 PM
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OK, so this is the fifth of my, and now eait couple of hours... :-)
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August 07, 2011, 08:28:44 PM
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Even though I am a newbie and wish I could start posting everywhere immediately, I think those restrictions are not quite hard enough..
From lurking on the other forums, it seems that there are still a ton of trolls..
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August 07, 2011, 10:12:00 PM
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Thats true, i think a higher post count should be enforced along with some system of phone verification
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August 08, 2011, 07:05:17 AM
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This rules are for our own good, we'll benefit on this in the end.

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August 08, 2011, 06:58:59 PM
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I see most here stating the restrictions are not high enough.  I'd like to say the opposite.  Bitcointalk should be about communication.  I find forcing new users to spam five posts in this forum degrading.  It potentially leaves a bad taste in the new users mouth.

I understand the problem, but, there should be a better way to approach it.  For example limit one account per IP type thing.  Tor/I2p/Proxy users would be sad, but, that is where 99% of your spam is coming from in the first place.  Alternatively if you detect a multi-ip account (aka from Tor) then force them into the "newbie" class and to jump through these (even more restrict) hoops; fresh/first IP users should be exempt from this and go straight to JrMember.
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August 08, 2011, 10:29:35 PM
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What kind of trolling happened? I was a lurker on the forums since May and frequently surf the mining and economics forums. I was pretty surprised when I couldn't post a reply, or even PM a mod about the problem!
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