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November 07, 2016, 10:07:25 AM
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I hope that PayPal will restore its reputation and will work as early as in the near future. It is a pity that they have lost a lot of customers. Nobody wants to risk their money
they don't lost a lot customers,even they do,they will always get a bunch of new customers,as i've seen that paypal verification service are now growing up and getting used widely among many people,it's a clue that paypal still become a need for those who transacting in online world

even their policies are sucks and painful,you can't avoid that they're the most used service compared to other

I agree with you  that  paypal service  is still used  nowadays  because  people   get used too  it   regarding  on  making   online transactions ,  their policies  really sucks and  its  a pain  but  i could  really say that  their  clients  or  users   are  decreased  because of  bitcoins  existence  and  im assure of that,  for those  people   who are not  aware on bitcoins  existence  theyll surely  use paypal still.

Yeah, and there are a lot of them. In fact it's 188 million users in 2016. I don't think all of them don't aware of the Bitcoin existence, it's just impossible or very incovenient to use Bitcoins in some cases so that's why they are using PayPal.

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November 07, 2016, 10:24:08 AM
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what is in your mind that you say paypal scam ?. possible regulations that restrict paypal. because now a lot of scams that use paypal as a payment
I think someone trick him thats why his telling that paypal is scam i use paypal since i started business with internet and i never encountered in problem with paypal i use also paypal to pay online as payment this is number payment method in the online shops. lmao and then accusing paypal is scam.
There are some transactions they get disputed between seller and buyer, usually paypal follow the law and refund accordingly those, but there are some bad people using and abusing those system, damaging others with paypal rules. Paypal has and its a trusted companie that co-works with in the general only trusted websites, you dont see hyip with paypal, if you see such be sure its a scam attempt nothing else.
Some users really do that get the dispute and report it to the paypal and they can refund the amount they send is they applicable in sending of friends and family? i think this is for services only? And if this can be use then some bad people can really make this advantage to scam more people who don't really uses paypal that good.



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November 07, 2016, 11:17:13 AM
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I hope that PayPal will restore its reputation and will work as early as in the near future. It is a pity that they have lost a lot of customers. Nobody wants to risk their money
they don't lost a lot customers,even they do,they will always get a bunch of new customers,as i've seen that paypal verification service are now growing up and getting used widely among many people,it's a clue that paypal still become a need for those who transacting in online world

even their policies are sucks and painful,you can't avoid that they're the most used service compared to other
Most users are unaware of those policies anyway until they encounter someone disputing payments. I can only imagine people making thousands of money by depositing 1,000$ in Paypal, buying something worth 1000$, then dispute the payment after you got the item. I'm pretty sure somebody's abusing this Buyer Protection Policy so much while seller's can't do anything about it.

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November 07, 2016, 01:21:39 PM
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I hope that PayPal will restore its reputation and will work as early as in the near future. It is a pity that they have lost a lot of customers. Nobody wants to risk their money
they don't lost a lot customers,even they do,they will always get a bunch of new customers,as i've seen that paypal verification service are now growing up and getting used widely among many people,it's a clue that paypal still become a need for those who transacting in online world

even their policies are sucks and painful,you can't avoid that they're the most used service compared to other
Most users are unaware of those policies anyway until they encounter someone disputing payments. I can only imagine people making thousands of money by depositing 1,000$ in Paypal, buying something worth 1000$, then dispute the payment after you got the item. I'm pretty sure somebody's abusing this Buyer Protection Policy so much while seller's can't do anything about it.

Indeed mate. Some people are very abusive and think that they can manipulate the system.. Paypal transactions are made online so that's why some people may have legit disputes and some are not. Some abusive users just want to try and take advantage of the policy.

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November 07, 2016, 01:31:24 PM
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Some abusive users just want to try and take advantage of the policy.
Some? You should know how severe the problem of scammers charging back on innocent sellers is.

I understand that people see the buyers protection feature as a great tool in case they need it, but it by far doesn't outweigh the negative aspect due to all the scammers.

That's why I think the victims of this, and other people, will more and more prefer Bitcoin as a currency tool/payment platform in order to complete all their transactions.

Bitcoin guarantees them that all transactions are final. That should give everyone enough confidence and will to give Bitcoin a chance.

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November 07, 2016, 01:54:03 PM
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I hope that PayPal will restore its reputation and will work as early as in the near future. It is a pity that they have lost a lot of customers. Nobody wants to risk their money
they don't lost a lot customers,even they do,they will always get a bunch of new customers,as i've seen that paypal verification service are now growing up and getting used widely among many people,it's a clue that paypal still become a need for those who transacting in online world

even their policies are sucks and painful,you can't avoid that they're the most used service compared to other
Most users are unaware of those policies anyway until they encounter someone disputing payments. I can only imagine people making thousands of money by depositing 1,000$ in Paypal, buying something worth 1000$, then dispute the payment after you got the item. I'm pretty sure somebody's abusing this Buyer Protection Policy so much while seller's can't do anything about it.

Indeed mate. Some people are very abusive and think that they can manipulate the system.. Paypal transactions are made online so that's why some people may have legit disputes and some are not. Some abusive users just want to try and take advantage of the policy.

Indeed,  people   would   really make some  actions   regarding  on this  because they saw  this  as  an opportunity  for them to make  money  from  other  people  thats why  they  use  these feature of paypal   because they  know they could able to scam  people  with this. These  thing  could really make  some  bad   image to  paypal thats why there are people  saying that  its a scam.

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November 07, 2016, 05:12:57 PM
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I hope that PayPal will restore its reputation and will work as early as in the near future. It is a pity that they have lost a lot of customers. Nobody wants to risk their money
they don't lost a lot customers,even they do,they will always get a bunch of new customers,as i've seen that paypal verification service are now growing up and getting used widely among many people,it's a clue that paypal still become a need for those who transacting in online world

even their policies are sucks and painful,you can't avoid that they're the most used service compared to other

I agree with you  that  paypal service  is still used  nowadays  because  people   get used too  it   regarding  on  making   online transactions ,  their policies  really sucks and  its  a pain  but  i could  really say that  their  clients  or  users   are  decreased  because of  bitcoins  existence  and  im assure of that,  for those  people   who are not  aware on bitcoins  existence  theyll surely  use paypal still.

Yeah, and there are a lot of them. In fact it's 188 million users in 2016. I don't think all of them don't aware of the Bitcoin existence, it's just impossible or very incovenient to use Bitcoins in some cases so that's why they are using PayPal.

I have yet to see any big online store accepting bitcoins, barring game stores like Steam. As far as I know, stores like Amazon, BestBuy, iHerb, etc are not accepting bitcoins directly. And it seems that all of them are accepting payments made through PayPal, though. Why would they use it if it was a scam?

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November 08, 2016, 01:21:28 AM
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I hope that PayPal will restore its reputation and will work as early as in the near future. It is a pity that they have lost a lot of customers. Nobody wants to risk their money
they don't lost a lot customers,even they do,they will always get a bunch of new customers,as i've seen that paypal verification service are now growing up and getting used widely among many people,it's a clue that paypal still become a need for those who transacting in online world

even their policies are sucks and painful,you can't avoid that they're the most used service compared to other
Most users are unaware of those policies anyway until they encounter someone disputing payments. I can only imagine people making thousands of money by depositing 1,000$ in Paypal, buying something worth 1000$, then dispute the payment after you got the item. I'm pretty sure somebody's abusing this Buyer Protection Policy so much while seller's can't do anything about it.

That kind of action would et shut down real fast. It's not in paypal's interest to allow people to get away with such abuse and it's not in their customers interest to tolerate a business that doesn't shut down scammers hard. PayPal is a payment middleman, and those in that business are ripe for disruption by middleman-less technologies, so they understand very clearly the need to operate fairly for all parties.


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November 08, 2016, 10:02:34 AM
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Some abusive users just want to try and take advantage of the policy.
Some? You should know how severe the problem of scammers charging back on innocent sellers is.

I understand that people see the buyers protection feature as a great tool in case they need it, but it by far doesn't outweigh the negative aspect due to all the scammers.

That's why I think the victims of this, and other people, will more and more prefer Bitcoin as a currency tool/payment platform in order to complete all their transactions.

Bitcoin guarantees them that all transactions are final. That should give everyone enough confidence and will to give Bitcoin a chance.


Yeah, that is a very unfair policy for the legit sellers that doesn't have an intention but to give good customer service to their buyers. But it seems that a lot of buyers and scammers are abusing the system of paypal as they will use the reversible payment. I don't know if paypal is just simply protecting the both party or they are in favor of one party only.


Yes, unfortunately a lot of scams are now try to earn some money. This will only aggravate the overall situation with the service. It seems to me that he will never again work as before. Paypal too much lost
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November 08, 2016, 11:12:59 AM
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I hope that PayPal will restore its reputation and will work as early as in the near future. It is a pity that they have lost a lot of customers. Nobody wants to risk their money
they don't lost a lot customers,even they do,they will always get a bunch of new customers,as i've seen that paypal verification service are now growing up and getting used widely among many people,it's a clue that paypal still become a need for those who transacting in online world

even their policies are sucks and painful,you can't avoid that they're the most used service compared to other
Most users are unaware of those policies anyway until they encounter someone disputing payments. I can only imagine people making thousands of money by depositing 1,000$ in Paypal, buying something worth 1000$, then dispute the payment after you got the item. I'm pretty sure somebody's abusing this Buyer Protection Policy so much while seller's can't do anything about it.
well that's will only going to happen if paypal do approve the chargeback request and the buyers who requesting chargeback will need proof to prove that he's actually really not receiving anything,but sometimes paypal just blindly approving the requests and as a result so many sellers getting scammed,and it's always happening when a transaction just about to break the paypal's rule such as having a cryptocurrencies transaction,ironic but real

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I hope that PayPal will restore its reputation and will work as early as in the near future. It is a pity that they have lost a lot of customers. Nobody wants to risk their money
they don't lost a lot customers,even they do,they will always get a bunch of new customers,as i've seen that paypal verification service are now growing up and getting used widely among many people,it's a clue that paypal still become a need for those who transacting in online world

even their policies are sucks and painful,you can't avoid that they're the most used service compared to other
Most users are unaware of those policies anyway until they encounter someone disputing payments. I can only imagine people making thousands of money by depositing 1,000$ in Paypal, buying something worth 1000$, then dispute the payment after you got the item. I'm pretty sure somebody's abusing this Buyer Protection Policy so much while seller's can't do anything about it.
well that's will only going to happen if paypal do approve the chargeback request and the buyers who requesting chargeback will need proof to prove that he's actually really not receiving anything,but sometimes paypal just blindly approving the requests and as a result so many sellers getting scammed,and it's always happening when a transaction just about to break the paypal's rule such as having a cryptocurrencies transaction,ironic but real
If that's your experience with paypal you have the option to fully adopt with bitcoin. No charge back with bitcoins as you cannot reverse the transaction. But definitely, we do not have a proof that paypal is scam, otherwise it will not exist now.

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If that's your experience with paypal you have the option to fully adopt with bitcoin. No charge back with bitcoins as you cannot reverse the transaction. But definitely, we do not have a proof that paypal is scam, otherwise it will not exist now.
you are right, bitcoin is not reversible or irreversible but if someone just making double spend your transaction will be rejected by the network and you are done you are scammed,even it is rarely happening but this trick still being used and that is why you need a confirmation before sending an item to your client


     
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November 08, 2016, 01:05:32 PM
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If that's your experience with paypal you have the option to fully adopt with bitcoin. No charge back with bitcoins as you cannot reverse the transaction. But definitely, we do not have a proof that paypal is scam, otherwise it will not exist now.
you are right, bitcoin is not reversible or irreversible but if someone just making double spend your transaction will be rejected by the network and you are done you are scammed,even it is rarely happening but this trick still being used and that is why you need a confirmation before sending an item to your client
Paypal has a reputation, and in the general people complaining about it are those people that had lost some dispute against the buyer or the seller, sure sell something and allow 60 days to complain and be able to win makes no sense, but well thats the regulamentation of the world, and paypal does follow those.


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November 08, 2016, 04:44:29 PM
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If that's your experience with paypal you have the option to fully adopt with bitcoin. No charge back with bitcoins as you cannot reverse the transaction. But definitely, we do not have a proof that paypal is scam, otherwise it will not exist now.
you are right, bitcoin is not reversible or irreversible but if someone just making double spend your transaction will be rejected by the network and you are done you are scammed,even it is rarely happening but this trick still being used and that is why you need a confirmation before sending an item to your client
Paypal has a reputation, and in the general people complaining about it are those people that had lost some dispute against the buyer or the seller, sure sell something and allow 60 days to complain and be able to win makes no sense, but well thats the regulamentation of the world, and paypal does follow those.

sometimes the fact of complaints to anything in the end does not. People lose their money. It seems to me that Paypal will never restore the confidence of the people

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Yes paypal is shit and is more concerned with tracking payments than tranferring them.Their back office is now bigger than the front one like the way beauraucracy grows and destroys the initial goal.


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Yes paypal is shit and is more concerned with tracking payments than tranferring them.Their back office is now bigger than the front one like the way beauraucracy grows and destroys the initial goal.


To date, paypal is the most common payment system in the world and the confidence is very high. Therefore it is very difficult to say how much can be a bad case. If all trusted, you do not need to doubt.

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I used to use PayPal. But now I do not have confidence in the payment system. I do not want to risk their money, so choose another payment system
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The united state government should probe PayPal for freezing customer fund,personally all those frozen fund are use for other investment that will yield profit for PayPal before it will be release, their should be a body that will be regulating online money in u s to checkmate their activities
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no paypal is not a scam there's a billion people in the world who's using paypal to send and received money from it. i've been a user of paypal for 6 years and i could say their service is 100% trusted. but if you do something illegal they would hold your account and you will go through some method where you need to verify that you're not doing any illegal. you should read their rules and regulation every company have that. and you can also check their FAQ.  hope this helps.


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I used to use PayPal. But now I do not have confidence in the payment system. I do not want to risk their money, so choose another payment system
Perhaps the bad rumors about competitors or paypal subject is really risky payment system. I planned to use it, but in the light of this information, I give up the idea.
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