[ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax

[Dima13]

Pumped, and dumped.

No, IT IS NOT!!!

There are great news for zcl!
Community and dev are going to upgrade network.
We are going to have whitepaper.
We are thinking about rebranding.
Dev really like to add monero's confidential ring transactions into zcl.
We are talking about voting mechanism to proceed quicker changes and decisions.

Here we go! Make zcl great again!

Is this information confirmed or is it just wishful thinking? Because all it seems that we got from the dev or whoever is running the ZCL twitter account is a couple of non-informative tweets recently. And that's after hearing nothing for months.

This is from HUGE discussion on slack channel.
There is big and active community there.
And i think this is just the beginning!

I'm not sure it's a great time to invest in the middle of a branding crisis.

You can say it to antshares' adopters)

[Andeze17]

Pumped, and dumped.

No, IT IS NOT!!!

There are great news for zcl!
Community and dev are going to upgrade network.
We are going to have whitepaper.
We are thinking about rebranding.
Dev really like to add monero's confidential ring transactions into zcl.
We are talking about voting mechanism to proceed quicker changes and decisions.

Here we go! Make zcl great again!

Is this information confirmed or is it just wishful thinking? Because all it seems that we got from the dev or whoever is running the ZCL twitter account is a couple of non-informative tweets recently. And that's after hearing nothing for months.

This is from HUGE discussion on slack channel.
There is big and active community there.
And i think this is just the beginning!

I'm not sure it's a great time to invest in the middle of a branding crisis.

You can say it to antshares' adopters)

The Ethereum for China was great marketing...maybe ZCL can be turned into Zerocash for China.

[arbitrage]

I'm not sure it's a great time to invest in the middle of a branding crisis.

Yes good thought, this can be very speculative from now on.

The Ethereum for China was great marketing...maybe ZCL can be turned into Zerocash for China.

This won't happen by itself, such task requires a lot of work, here i can see only good dosage of confusion, and this is not good for new investments. ZCL should recover to 100k but didn't, this is strange.

[serejandmyself]

Is there a windows wallet for non x64 OS?

So is there one? Elisium not working on x32

[Dima13]

Guys, some more news from slack.
Dev said that he has the network level encryption code completed.
He is thinking about adding Guardian Nodes into Zclassic so that it grows fast and becomes a large privacy network.

For my question what are the Guardian nodes, he asked: think of them like master nodes in DASH but only serve to keep the network secure. And it ll be possible to stake coins in it.

How long would implementation takes - you are thinking now)
His answer: i can probably have a testnet up and running in about 2 weeks. then 2 more weeks of testing.

Here we go guys!
Make Zclassic great!

[natall.com]

Some nice drama on slack, movrx wanted masternodes for zclassic but it was rejected, now he has left for good. I do not think zclassic has to remain 1:1 copy of zcash but going in the zencash direction is not a good idea.

[cendana287]

Guys, some more news from slack.
Dev said that he has the network level encryption code completed.
He is thinking about adding Guardian Nodes into Zclassic so that it grows fast and becomes a large privacy network.

For my question what are the Guardian nodes, he asked: think of them like master nodes in DASH but only serve to keep the network secure. And it ll be possible to stake coins in it.

How long would implementation takes - you are thinking now)
His answer: i can probably have a testnet up and running in about 2 weeks. then 2 more weeks of testing.

Here we go guys!
Make Zclassic great!

These cryptocoins aren't 'investments' but speculations.
That's how I approach them, with capital that I can afford to lose even if they go to zero dollar. I just need one from my basket of coins to shoot past the moon; and a few to provide hundreds of percent. These will more than cover the cost of the losers, including those that go to practically zero.

I don't know how things will develop for Zclassic. But I'm getting some (at 2 different price points). Then just wait and let time and the market decide.

[muf18]

Some nice drama on slack, movrx wanted masternodes for zclassic but it was rejected, now he has left for good. I do not think zclassic has to remain 1:1 copy of zcash but going in the zencash direction is not a good idea.

Lol it wasnt very smart, but it was a 'decision' of the founder? You have last dev that's going away now, you should at least save yourself with some more background.
This decission isn't going to be good in future, because nobody needs only classic - BTC Classic don't existed and ETC is only exisiting, because it was a huge scandal and drama all over crypto community, and thry have their own roadmap and plans, very different to ETH. It will go to 0 once again. But it was founder decission, lol that's funny, that founder decide, claiming this is 'community coin'. Right...

[natall.com]

I am 100% against masternodes and adding masternodes would require a hardfork/chainspit, we have already done that with zencash. Doing a controversial hardfork is a terrible idea.

There is already development bounties up for grab https://zdeveloper.org/wiki:developer_and_contributor_bounties

I will HODL.

[~Money~]

Looking at Slack chat... It seems like the development is already over before being started.... if you want to hold it then good luck but i am out from zcl ..shit

[muf18]

Masternodes maybe isnt the best idea, but it's something you can start off. Ripping off zcash code isn't creative at all, only without 'founder reward'.
And these bounties are too small for any serious development to pick up.

[natall.com]

I only hold 84, i was close to dumping earlier. I only invested 50$ in electricity. Masternodes are not a good start, it's a step in the wrong direction.

I have mixed feelings about this coin, it could be viewed as a better version of zcash.

[Raja_MBZ]

I was wrong, ZCL is not in hands of community, sadly.

I'm now out of it completely, going to dump my ZCL's now.

[fq,frHUxP*joE]

Looking at Slack chat... It seems like the development is already over before being started.... if you want to hold it then good luck but i am out from zcl ..shit

Here is an official statement that there will be no development at all: https://twitter.com/ZclassicCoin/status/900491131439501313

It's gonna be a boring clone of Zcash with no founder's reward. That's it, no new features, no new tech making it any better/different than Zcash. So it doesont matter even if the "community" will implement some features - nobody gonna pull them in.

All that ZCL/ZEN drama is just a scam scheme to pump and dump ZCL and raise their share in its fork.
So dump-dump-dump and pray there are still some fools to take your candy wrappers for real money.

The only "community ZEC" left around is HUSH.

[Raja_MBZ]

I was wrong, ZCL is not in hands of community, sadly.

I'm now out of it completely, going to dump my ZCL's now.

 how many u got ?

1000 dumped.

Last 1000 coming soon.

[muf18]

When main 'founder' (i would like to say other words, because he never showed up until now), is having only 100ZCL, and doesnt have interest in it to continue, or develop this project, what could you expect...

Idea was completly misunderstood - all classic coins are going separate ways - ETC, now BCH, to the original chain. But ZCL will stick to it lol. This job can be done with one man, not a dev team and community. Just wasted my time here, I dumped my coins when it was still around 110-130K satoshi I think, even tho I still believed a little in project (but was having huge doubts), now I dont have. It's going to 1000sats.
@movcrx should just fork this and get main miners on his fork instead of this. When he and others would apply features and new things to coin, it would with a few weeks/months surpass this, because it has almost only bot trading activity.

[natall.com]

I am not sure if zclassic should remain zcash without founders reward and slow start, i am however against the following
-premine
-masternodes
-block reward tax.

Zclassic currently doesn't have any of that, i will take a second look at hush(dumped earlier and i am starting to regret that).


Heyrhett wrote the following ln slack:

People should develop new things and anyone is free to either start their own blockchain or fork off of ZCL and we get to follow that for free.

Zcash has an ambitious roadmap already and we get to follow that for free.

The free market wants people to innovate and make new things, but some of those things will be a failure.  The community promise of ZCL is that it is a clone of Zcash with no fee.  If we tried to add more features to ZCL, someone would just fork the code and go back to the original plan and claim it is the "real" ZCL.

There's no way to do a clean fork unless the overwhelming majority of the community agrees.

[Jack Russell]

When main 'founder' (i would like to say other words, because he never showed up until now), is having only 100ZCL, and doesnt have interest in it to continue, or develop this project, what could you expect...
....

When I read that on slack I dumped mine. Good luck to those still holding.

[forzendiablo]

damn this are some bad news, why do devs do it? lets keep Zclassic the CLASSIC not something new.
 this is not what we (buyers) want.

[Andeze17]

Just when you thought this coin couldn't get any worse...... lol.
At least the ZCL twitter account provided comedy. Says the coin is not dead and then conduct a poll asking how to improve the coin -> majority votes on rebrand and new features -> shortly later announce nothing will change.
And now the dev has apparently left?