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May 10, 2013, 01:17:51 PM
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Guys they upped the price and moved shipping date to August

Meaning they can get more money before disappearing, good plan!

makes good business sense Smiley

Seriously, they need to be banned from this forum as they have been on the other forums, their Anonymousg64 account as well.

This is indefensible, I'm just glad that they get called out immediately after posting their shit.

I genuinely was expecting them to up their game. Still three months on photoshop, and a new camcorder; they should be pros by that time. Tongue

Remember their site is live and taking payments without any proof of concept and proven fraudulent previous attempts of acquiring funds by deception.



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May 10, 2013, 02:21:36 PM
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I was considering a pre-order hoped they would show something new and provide proof, I guess we gotta wait until august.  Bfl may beat them lol
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May 10, 2013, 02:45:58 PM
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I was considering a pre-order hoped they would show something new and provide proof, I guess we gotta wait until august.  Bfl may beat them lol

shill or just thick as a brick?

this is so frustrating, when I saw the first post I was thinking, I really hope no-one falls for this.
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May 10, 2013, 02:52:04 PM
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I was considering a pre-order hoped they would show something new and provide proof, I guess we gotta wait until august.  Bfl may beat them lol

Dude, unless you're tight with BFL_Josh, or have something he wants like an online magazine with huge readership for his own pr purposes, you are unlikely to see a BFL miner for a very long time, after which unless you are mining for the purpose of aiding the Bitcoin movement and it's security.

The BFL pre-orderers are already discovering that.

Best wait until the Avalon chips are here and on a proven stable board. There will be many resellers then. Failing that stand back and follow more efficient chip development a that I the only other route into mining aside fiture cooperatives.

If you want to profit, then either make or buy something for resale and ask for Bitcoins as payment.

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May 10, 2013, 02:55:08 PM
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I have requested one more time my bitcoins to this guys, according their new policy refund (..."Also we have decided to take refunds from
our first customers"...). If this is another joke, I will confirm it in 48 hrs.
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May 10, 2013, 02:57:53 PM
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I was considering a pre-order hoped they would show something new and provide proof, I guess we gotta wait until august.  Bfl may beat them lol

Take care of this guy.... I think he is a troll...
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May 10, 2013, 03:00:38 PM
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I was considering a pre-order hoped they would show something new and provide proof, I guess we gotta wait until august.  Bfl may beat them lol

Take care of this guy.... I think he is a troll...


99% sure he is. 100% sure Anonymousg64 is. They are Cedertec, new to the forum for this thread and supposed investors, constantly suggesting doubt in the fact this is a scam and asking for more time for this to be proven.

It just fuels interest and keeps the scam alive.


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May 10, 2013, 03:38:21 PM
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May 10, 2013, 03:41:07 PM
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أنا اجيت ابحت عن شركتك الخيالية اليوم وما حدا سمع فيها من قبل. مريت بحي ابو سمرة وسألت الناس بالجامع القديم. يا عيب الشوم عليك يا سافل. تفو على شكلك 

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May 10, 2013, 03:54:05 PM
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أنا اجيت ابحت عن شركتك الخيالية اليوم وما حدا سمع فيها من قبل. مريت بحي ابو سمرة وسألت الناس بالجامع القديم. يا عيب الشوم عليك يا سافل. تفو على شكلك  

لم جوجل ترجمة لا تعمل بشكل جيد على هذا. يرجى المحاولة مرة أخرى

Too much knefeh. It's heavy food. Can't blame Google for that (though they should eat more fattouche with their meals, they wouldn't feel so heavy after - then again I'm not sure it really goes well with knefeh; probably should stick with fish then! Smiley ).
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May 10, 2013, 04:08:45 PM
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لم جوجل ترجمة لا تعمل بشكل جيد على هذا. يرجى المحاولة مرة أخرى

ههههههه شو جوجل صارت اترجم من الانجليزية للهجة الشامية؟

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May 10, 2013, 04:54:08 PM
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هذا هو عملية احتيال

lol. I was waiting for someone to put this

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May 10, 2013, 04:55:31 PM
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What's that mean in normal talk?

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May 10, 2013, 04:58:40 PM
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What's that mean in normal talk?


- This is a case of fraud.

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May 10, 2013, 05:22:34 PM
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Lol those pictures are hilarious. The processors are sitting on top of resistors.

Check out this real FPGA photo - link below.   See the metal leads for the I/O channels aligned around all sides of the spartan 6?. ASICs are the same. Now look at the pic in the first post again where they have 10 of them on the board.

http://www.keteu.org/img/pandadaq_fpga_integ.jpg
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May 10, 2013, 06:03:09 PM
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Lol those pictures are hilarious. The processors are sitting on top of resistors.

Check out this real FPGA photo - link below.   See the metal leads for the I/O channels aligned around all sides of the spartan 6?. ASICs are the same. Now look at the pic in the first post again where they have 10 of them on the board.

WTF is that even supposed to mean? There are MANY MANY different package types that don't involve the pins being located around the perimeter. There's no such thing as an "ASIC package". They can be put in any suitable package, and the exterior packaging has absolutely NOTHING with the function of the chip itself.

Both QFN package type AND BGA type, which are what's being used by the major SHA256 ASIC designers right now, are mounted without any leads visible around the perimeter. Your post is completely full of fail.

There's PLENTY of evidence of a scam here. Package type is not among it.

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May 10, 2013, 06:06:06 PM
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Easy, he was trying to help. There's a calmer way of delivering the message. Flip your lid at the scammers not those wise enough not to fall for this scam.

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May 10, 2013, 06:51:45 PM
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im quite disappointed, i will no longer be posting until publicly verifiable stats are up.

(not saying i believe they are a scam, just not worth the effort to defend them and challenge the obnoxious personality's here.)
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May 10, 2013, 07:03:27 PM
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cant believe this thread is still alive lmao
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May 10, 2013, 08:02:11 PM
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Lol those pictures are hilarious. The processors are sitting on top of resistors.

Check out this real FPGA photo - link below.   See the metal leads for the I/O channels aligned around all sides of the spartan 6?. ASICs are the same. Now look at the pic in the first post again where they have 10 of them on the board.

WTF is that even supposed to mean? There are MANY MANY different package types that don't involve the pins being located around the perimeter. There's no such thing as an "ASIC package". They can be put in any suitable package, and the exterior packaging has absolutely NOTHING with the function of the chip itself.

Both QFN package type AND BGA type, which are what's being used by the major SHA256 ASIC designers right now, are mounted without any leads visible around the perimeter. Your post is completely full of fail.

There's PLENTY of evidence of a scam here. Package type is not among it.

It's fair to assume though that at every position on the board that an ASIC chip is placed that the immediate area surrounding the ASICS themselves should in fact be constant for each chip, correct?

Because on top of the fact the chips are blatantly photoshopped upon the board without the layers blended, the underlying PCB area has no routine regularity chip to chip.

So his statement stands in that the processors are in fact just cloned and pasted upon a random generic board containing diodes/resistors.



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