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January 02, 2018, 02:01:41 AM |
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Too many bugs in 1.1.9 and 1.1.10 with 17.12.2 drivers. After stopping miner he didn't release RX 580 GPU cores. It continued to be 100% busy. And any attempt to open RadeonSettings or other tool that reads GPU on low level leads to system hang.
And add please option to DISABLE with annoing warning of page size!
You might want to just increase the page file size instead... The latest driver is giving me too much headache. Let me see if I can still work around driver issues... I have SSD system drive. And I want manage my virtual page size by myself. Please add an option to disable this warning with error sound. The miner won't be stable with a small page file size, though. I need to rule out this possible cause for instability. You can manually increase the page file size in Advanced System Settings. I know it. But IMHO 12Gb RAM+16Gb page file size is quite enough for 2xRX 580 8Gb and 1 R9 270X 4Gb, isn't it? But program every launch gives error message. I think that it must be an option to disable this error message. No, I don't think that is enough. In my experience you sometimes need to have the page file be equal to the size of your combined VRAM, with a bit extra. So in your case I would set it at ~24 GB and see how it does.
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January 02, 2018, 02:18:42 AM |
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Too many bugs in 1.1.9 and 1.1.10 with 17.12.2 drivers. After stopping miner he didn't release RX 580 GPU cores. It continued to be 100% busy. And any attempt to open RadeonSettings or other tool that reads GPU on low level leads to system hang.
And add please option to DISABLE with annoing warning of page size!
You might want to just increase the page file size instead... The latest driver is giving me too much headache. Let me see if I can still work around driver issues... I have SSD system drive. And I want manage my virtual page size by myself. Please add an option to disable this warning with error sound. The miner won't be stable with a small page file size, though. I need to rule out this possible cause for instability. You can manually increase the page file size in Advanced System Settings. I know it. But IMHO 12Gb RAM+16Gb page file size is quite enough for 2xRX 580 8Gb and 1 R9 270X 4Gb, isn't it? But program every launch gives error message. I think that it must be an option to disable this error message. No, I don't think that is enough. In my experience you sometimes need to have the page file be equal to the size of your combined VRAM, with a bit extra. So in your case I would set it at ~24 GB and see how it does. In my case it 8+8+4=20. But this cases is very rare. My 16Gb page file is enough. All of my VRAM never used in any cases, because of it 16Gb is quite enough for me.
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January 02, 2018, 02:51:12 AM |
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Didn't Claymore's have a similar requirement? All sorts of weird things happen with a small page file size, so it's better to stay on the safe side...
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January 02, 2018, 03:31:01 AM |
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Didn't Claymore's have a similar requirement? All sorts of weird things happen with a small page file size, so it's better to stay on the safe side...
Yes, it is. But his miners only show warning in console mode and in readme. But they are don't show error or offer to change it... And problem with small page file is only can occure with his Cryptonote miner and with -dmem 1 option, when each GPU start to use up to 8Gb VRAM. GGS in cryptonight mode maximum use 4,5-5Gb of VRAM, and about 1-1,5Gb on 270X card. So 16Gb will be quite enough for me. I'm understand that 20Gb im my config will be more safe. But I think that option to disable this warning is the normal situation. Every can decide himself wich system parameters he will use...
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January 02, 2018, 04:07:33 AM |
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Didn't Claymore's have a similar requirement? All sorts of weird things happen with a small page file size, so it's better to stay on the safe side...
Yes, it is. But his miners only show warning in console mode and in readme. But they are don't show error or offer to change it... And problem with small page file is only can occure with his Cryptonote miner and with -dmem 1 option, when each GPU start to use up to 8Gb VRAM. GGS in cryptonight mode maximum use 4,5-5Gb of VRAM, and about 1-1,5Gb on 270X card. So 16Gb will be quite enough for me. I'm understand that 20Gb im my config will be more safe. But I think that option to disable this warning is the normal situation. Every can decide himself wich system parameters he will use... Well, let's see how the next version pans out, OK? If the miner runs stably without this restriction, I would lift it.
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January 02, 2018, 04:14:33 AM |
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Didn't Claymore's have a similar requirement? All sorts of weird things happen with a small page file size, so it's better to stay on the safe side...
Yes, it is. But his miners only show warning in console mode and in readme. But they are don't show error or offer to change it... And problem with small page file is only can occure with his Cryptonote miner and with -dmem 1 option, when each GPU start to use up to 8Gb VRAM. GGS in cryptonight mode maximum use 4,5-5Gb of VRAM, and about 1-1,5Gb on 270X card. So 16Gb will be quite enough for me. I'm understand that 20Gb im my config will be more safe. But I think that option to disable this warning is the normal situation. Every can decide himself wich system parameters he will use... Well, let's see how the next version pans out, OK? If the miner runs stably without this restriction, I would lift it. Of course. You're the Boss! )))
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January 02, 2018, 04:29:35 AM |
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Gateless Gate Sharp 1.1.11 alpha https://github.com/zawawawa/GatelessGateSharp/releases/tag/v1.1.11-alpha* Addressed stability issues with the GPU order workaround. * Added utilities for system configurations on the Misc. tab page. I find these utilities pretty useful. I feel so lazy energy-conscious...
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January 02, 2018, 10:12:11 AM |
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January 02, 2018, 10:12:19 AM |
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Gateless Gate Sharp 1.1.12 alpha https://github.com/zawawawa/GatelessGateSharp/releases/tag/v1.1.12-alpha* Implemented a workaround for SQLite. * Addressed stability issues with CryptoNight. It seems that the latest AMD drivers prefer lower values for intensity. If you still experience stability issues with this version, you could try decreasing intensity first.
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January 02, 2018, 11:06:02 AM |
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Gateless Gate Sharp 1.1.12 alpha https://github.com/zawawawa/GatelessGateSharp/releases/tag/v1.1.12-alpha* Implemented a workaround for SQLite. * Addressed stability issues with CryptoNight. It seems that the latest AMD drivers prefer lower values for intensity. If you still experience stability issues with this version, you could try decreasing intensity first. Any numbers for intensity? Wich is for RX 580 now?
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January 02, 2018, 11:28:39 AM |
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Thanks again for this great software but i have to admit i stoped using it. With each Version the GUI became less and less responsive for me, waiting up to 1 Min. just to change something, no thanks. I've also switched to Linux(ethOS) to get rid of this windows driver bullshit. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Pls consider a Linux / cmd version and maybe get rid of this unreponsive GUI stuff in Windows and try a webinterface/config?
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January 02, 2018, 12:05:34 PM |
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Thanks again for this great software but i have to admit i stoped using it. With each Version the GUI became less and less responsive for me, waiting up to 1 Min. just to change something, no thanks. I've also switched to Linux(ethOS) to get rid of this windows driver bullshit. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Pls consider a Linux / cmd version and maybe get rid of this unreponsive GUI stuff in Windows and try a webinterface/config? Yeah, this is a serious problem for PC's with a small amount of RAM. I don't know if it's GUI, though. It could well be C#. I know you made the switch already, but I will look into this problem anyway.
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January 02, 2018, 12:15:31 PM Last edit: January 02, 2018, 02:51:35 PM by vapourminer |
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Didn't Claymore's have a similar requirement? All sorts of weird things happen with a small page file size, so it's better to stay on the safe side...
Yes, it is. But his miners only show warning in console mode and in readme. But they are don't show error or offer to change it... And problem with small page file is only can occure with his Cryptonote miner and with -dmem 1 option, when each GPU start to use up to 8Gb VRAM. GGS in cryptonight mode maximum use 4,5-5Gb of VRAM, and about 1-1,5Gb on 270X card. So 16Gb will be quite enough for me. I'm understand that 20Gb im my config will be more safe. But I think that option to disable this warning is the normal situation. Every can decide himself wich system parameters he will use... Well, let's see how the next version pans out, OK? If the miner runs stably without this restriction, I would lift it. kinda surprised at this moaning about big page files, i mean with the thousands of dollars to build a decent mining rig, whats an extra 50 bucks for a 128+ gig ssd? a big page file is no problem as long as you have the drive space, so whats the problem? i run a 60 gig pagefile in win10pro build 1709 (running claymore, dstm, ewbf at the same time) on a 128 gig msata ssd. and have no problems. granted havent tried this miner yet but if you wanna play, you gotta pay. make it easy on the developer and let him concentrate on the important stuff, not those "problems" that a user can fix just by following the recommendations in the README. wanna chance an unstable rig? be my guest. myself, i follow directions and go for 100% uptime. zawawa, thanks for you hard work. ill be testing this miner soon. EDIT: 8 gigs ram on system
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January 02, 2018, 12:55:59 PM |
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Thanks again for this great software but i have to admit i stoped using it. With each Version the GUI became less and less responsive for me, waiting up to 1 Min. just to change something, no thanks. I've also switched to Linux(ethOS) to get rid of this windows driver bullshit. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Pls consider a Linux / cmd version and maybe get rid of this unreponsive GUI stuff in Windows and try a webinterface/config? Yeah, this is a serious problem for PC's with a small amount of RAM. I don't know if it's GUI, though. It could well be C#. I know you made the switch already, but I will look into this problem anyway. Rig Specs: G1840 8GB RAM 3xRX580 3xRX570 Windows 320GB HDD ethOS 16GB USB Stick. Thanks, maybe this will help other ppl. , still looking forward to see your miner in ethOS and similar distros. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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January 02, 2018, 02:42:14 PM |
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Neoscrypt kernel gives many rejected shares about target. With intensity 768 and 512. With 256 speed much lower.
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January 02, 2018, 03:28:12 PM |
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zawawa, how to use this miner for console mode? I do not need a GUI, it's inconvenient. If there is no such mode, please add it. Thx :3
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January 02, 2018, 04:06:42 PM |
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Neoscrypt kernel gives many rejected shares about target. With intensity 768 and 512. With 256 speed much lower.
I wouldn't recommend anything beyond 256. If you get 700 with RX 480, that's pretty good already.
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January 02, 2018, 04:12:26 PM |
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I just tried Native Image Generator, and the difference was day and night. lol I actually really start liking C#...
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January 02, 2018, 04:14:45 PM |
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Neoscrypt kernel gives many rejected shares about target. With intensity 768 and 512. With 256 speed much lower.
I wouldn't recommend anything beyond 256. If you get 700 with RX 480, that's pretty good already. Hmm, rx 580 with 512 intensity gives 810-820 h/s. With 256 about 775. And power consumption... It's need to lower it. You said about asm for neoscrypt. No time to integrate it?
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January 02, 2018, 04:14:45 PM |
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zawawa, how to use this miner for console mode? I do not need a GUI, it's inconvenient. If there is no such mode, please add it. Thx :3
that's what i'm looking for too
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