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Author Topic: Gateless Gate Sharp 1.3.8: 30Mh/s (Ethash) on RX 480!  (Read 214418 times)
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April 06, 2017, 02:09:42 AM
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Claymore made a choise in his miner and fee can be disabled via -nofee 1 option. Can you make in gg miner this choise too?

So, you're happy to use the result of his hard work, which is open source, but you begrudge him 1%? Do you mine solo just to avoid the 1% pool fee, too? Do you steal rolls of toilet paper out of public rest rooms, while you're at it?

At this moment I use Claymore miners - they are give more speed on my Tahiti and Pitcairn cards. I told about possibility to disable fee. Even Claymore make this possibility on his miners.
And you're right - I allready paying too much fees (pools, etc.) and I don't want to add another 1%.
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April 06, 2017, 02:39:07 AM
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Claymore made a choise in his miner and fee can be disabled via -nofee 1 option. Can you make in gg miner this choise too?

So, you're happy to use the result of his hard work, which is open source, but you begrudge him 1%? Do you mine solo just to avoid the 1% pool fee, too? Do you steal rolls of toilet paper out of public rest rooms, while you're at it?

At this moment I use Claymore miners - they are give more speed on my Tahiti and Pitcairn cards. I told about possibility to disable fee. Even Claymore make this possibility on his miners.
And you're right - I allready paying too much fees (pools, etc.) and I don't want to add another 1%.

OK, so you *do* realize that Claymore's -nofee option reduces the hash rate you get by a bit more than his devfee, right? He says so in his README.
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April 06, 2017, 03:51:38 AM
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Claymore made a choise in his miner and fee can be disabled via -nofee 1 option. Can you make in gg miner this choise too?

So, you're happy to use the result of his hard work, which is open source, but you begrudge him 1%? Do you mine solo just to avoid the 1% pool fee, too? Do you steal rolls of toilet paper out of public rest rooms, while you're at it?

At this moment I use Claymore miners - they are give more speed on my Tahiti and Pitcairn cards. I told about possibility to disable fee. Even Claymore make this possibility on his miners.
And you're right - I allready paying too much fees (pools, etc.) and I don't want to add another 1%.
He clearly stated he added a VOLUNTARY fee, and you are whining for how to disable it?

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April 06, 2017, 05:20:56 AM
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Hey, zawawa, we are looking for mining sw developers, full time job. If you are interested, let us know.

I really don't know what to say, but thanks for considering me for the position. I mean it.

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April 06, 2017, 05:26:53 AM
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I just tried out pre-6 on my Linux 4.10/AMDGPU-Pro 16.6 rig.
Looks like nobody added detection of AMDGPU-Pro to the autoconf, so I had to set
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LDFLAGS="-L/opt/amdgpu-pro/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu"
for for configure.

The binary kernels seem to be loaded:
Code:
[21:06:17] Loaded binary image ./binary-kernel/ethash-newEllesmeregw192l8.bin
[21:06:17] Initialising kernel ethash-new.cl with nfactor 10, n 1024
[21:06:17] Loaded binary image ./binary-kernel/ethash-newEllesmeregw192l8.bin
[21:06:17] Initialising kernel ethash-new.cl with nfactor 10, n 1024

However performance is slightly less than sgminer-gm 5.5.5 with my Rx 470 @1169/2100.  gg gives me ~29.0 vs 29.35 for sgminer-gm.  I also tried with the core clock unlocked, and get
~28.85.


It may be the case that the most recent optimization may not work for RX 470 due to timing issues.
I am out of country right now, but I brought an RX 470 with me.
Let me see what I can do with it.

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April 06, 2017, 08:35:34 AM
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Your miner consumes more electricity! with each video card 10w
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April 06, 2017, 10:55:20 AM
Last edit: April 06, 2017, 12:20:23 PM by bytewise
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Hello zawawa,

I've been following this thread since your early ZEC mining goals, hoping that one day the titan that is Claymore would be beat (or at least matched considering his ZEC history) by an open source implementation. All of these bottom feeders asking for how to disable a voluntary mining fee without even looking finally got me to register and contribute.

Benchmarked gateless-0.1.3-pre6 against Claymore v8.1 and v9.0 and took power readings.

My system with 3 XFX RX480 runs at 117W idle. One of the cards won the bad ASIC quality lottery and runs at a much lower rate.

These numbers are at the wall usage on an 80 plus platinum efficiency EVGA 750P2 power supply:

483W mining v8.1
ETH - Total Speed: 86.514 Mh/s, Total Shares: 1, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:00
ETH: GPU0 29.697 Mh/s, GPU1 27.157 Mh/s, GPU2 29.659 Mh/s

483W mining v9.0
ETH - Total Speed: 86.282 Mh/s, Total Shares: 1, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:00
ETH: GPU0 29.612 Mh/s, GPU1 27.052 Mh/s, GPU2 29.618 Mh/s

504W mining gateless-0.1.3-pre6 1 thread xI 2304
[06:05:25] GPU0                | (5s):29.40M (avg):27.30Mh/s | A:4000000000 R:0 HW:2 WU:30.089/m
[06:05:25] GPU1                | (5s):27.11M (avg):25.27Mh/s | A:4000000000 R:0 HW:0 WU:23.524/m
[06:05:25] GPU2                | (5s):29.42M (avg):27.30Mh/s | A:8000000000 R:0 HW:3 WU:22.977/m

509W mining gateless-0.1.3-pre6 2 thread xI 4608
[06:13:33] GPU0                | (5s):29.69M (avg):26.50Mh/s | A:0 R:0 HW:7 WU:26.056/m
[06:13:33] GPU1                | (5s):27.32M (avg):24.91Mh/s | A:12000000000 R:0 HW:5 WU:21.564/m
[06:13:33] GPU2                | (5s):29.69M (avg):26.87Mh/s | A:0 R:0 HW:9 WU:23.360/m

Edit:
After 1hr 20mins:
GPU 0:                | 29.57M/29.46Mh/s | R:  0.0% HW:165 WU:27.588/m xI:3204
GPU 1:                | 27.23M/27.15Mh/s | R:  0.0% HW:116 WU:24.575/m xI:3204
GPU 2:                | 29.54M/29.43Mh/s | R:  0.0% HW:125 WU:27.935/m xI:3204

About 5 HW errors every minute across 3 cards on xI 3204 with 1 gpu thread. They're all undervolted with custom straps so it could be my problem.

I'll keep it mining with you as 1% so you can hopefully keep moving forward. At only a few cents loss every 24hr compared to Claymore it's worth it to support a competitor who isn't afraid to release their code!
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April 06, 2017, 01:07:29 PM
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Not sure if this is common, but you may see less donated shares because of it:
[08:33:05] Stratum connection to ethermine.org interrupted
[08:33:06] Rejected untracked stratum share from ethermine.org
[08:33:09] Stratum connection to ethermine.org interrupted
[08:33:10] ethermine.org not responding!
[08:33:10] Switching to ethermine.org (donation)
[08:33:12] ethermine.org alive, testing stability
[08:34:20] ethermine.org stable for 60 seconds
[08:34:20] Switching to ethermine.org

I also think it would be best to move away from sgminer. It's great that it supports a ton of currencies, but you're going to end up burdened supporting this massive codebase that comes with a lot of quirks.

What mbevand did by moving all the sensitive code to C and using Python for communication was brilliant imo. It's simple, readable, and testable.

One last thing is that the Core folder may be more neat organizationally, but it also adds another level of complexity for the less technologically inclined (to put it nicely) users. Perhaps a separate project for each optimized coin, like Claymore's miners, with all the guts in the root folder would do you well.
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April 06, 2017, 03:57:41 PM
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I too noticed connection pb with ethermine and devFee.

@Zawawa: there must be something not working well with devfee, because if you look at your adress on ethermine you can clearly see some people are/try mining but there's to few share's.
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April 06, 2017, 07:30:26 PM
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Gigabyte RX480 (Hynix) custom timing-mode @1100/1970
claymore 9.0 - 29.05mh/s -asm 1 -dcri 6
zawawa pre6 - 27.60mh/s -Ix 4620 -g 1 +more power/+more system impact&freezes/there are memory HW (due to hwinfo output)
there is still a huge room for optimizations  Roll Eyes
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April 06, 2017, 07:36:55 PM
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Gigabyte RX480 (Hynix) custom timing-mode @1100/1970

I really have to emphasize somewhere that software/bios configurations for Claymore's DO NO TRANSFER to GG.
If you want to get the most out of GG, you have to customize the timing mode not for Claymore's but for GG.
Simple, no?

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April 06, 2017, 08:39:29 PM
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Gigabyte RX480 (Hynix) custom timing-mode @1100/1970
claymore 9.0 - 29.05mh/s -asm 1 -dcri 6
zawawa pre6 - 27.60mh/s -Ix 4620 -g 1 +more power/+more system impact&freezes/there are memory HW (due to hwinfo output)
there is still a huge room for optimizations  Roll Eyes

Aways use dual thread if you want to get the maximum of it, even claymore miner uses dual thread on Gpu
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April 06, 2017, 09:32:26 PM
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Aways use dual thread if you want to get ...
unstable system with a lot of MemHWs - yes I know it  Grin
0,00 HW-rate of claymore vs 100,000 HW-rate of zawawa - which one should I prefer?
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April 06, 2017, 09:40:24 PM
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Gigabyte RX480 (Hynix) custom timing-mode @1100/1970
claymore 9.0 - 29.05mh/s -asm 1 -dcri 6
zawawa pre6 - 27.60mh/s -Ix 4620 -g 1 +more power/+more system impact&freezes/there are memory HW (due to hwinfo output)
there is still a huge room for optimizations  Roll Eyes

Try --gpu-threads 2 --xintensity 4608 . I got equivalent rates to Claymore with that setting. 4608 is a multiple of the amount of stream processors on an rx480. Not sure what 4620 could be a multiple of.
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April 06, 2017, 10:17:55 PM
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Gigabyte RX480 (Hynix) custom timing-mode @1100/1970
claymore 9.0 - 29.05mh/s -asm 1 -dcri 6
zawawa pre6 - 27.60mh/s -Ix 4620 -g 1 +more power/+more system impact&freezes/there are memory HW (due to hwinfo output)
there is still a huge room for optimizations  Roll Eyes

Try --gpu-threads 2 --xintensity 4608 . I got equivalent rates to Claymore with that setting. 4608 is a multiple of the amount of stream processors on an rx480. Not sure what 4620 could be a multiple of.
Xi dont have a huge impact on mining, use 256 , you get same hashrate and less hardware errors
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April 06, 2017, 10:47:45 PM
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Oh, the fee realized through bat-files... I thought that the fee is hardcoded into miners code... I'm sorry for stupid questions about disabling the fee. Now I can disable it in any moment. But i proceed some time mining with fee. You work must be rewarded.
Thanks for your hard work.

P.S. Please add nicehash compatibility.
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April 07, 2017, 12:38:57 AM
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All the pool stability issues aside, I think the technical side of the new fee system is working.
The low numbers of valid shares and active computers are as expected.                                   .
I just need more people to mine with the fee on.
At the current pace, I would be making an impressive $3/month. LOL

https://ethermine.org/miners/91fa32e00b0f365d629fb625182a83fed61f0642/payouts

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April 07, 2017, 03:20:31 AM
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Going to do a 24 hr test with my full farm here shortly, Just finalizing the configs. Should throw about 30MH/s as dev fee.
Edit: Sending the command out now to switch to GG

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April 07, 2017, 04:55:40 AM
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All the pool stability issues aside, I think the technical side of the new fee system is working.
The low numbers of valid shares and active computers are as expected.                                   .
I just need more people to mine with the fee on.
At the current pace, I would be making an impressive $3/month. LOL

https://ethermine.org/miners/91fa32e00b0f365d629fb625182a83fed61f0642/payouts
Can i change to asia pool for the donation part? coz i'm from asia side..
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April 07, 2017, 04:58:15 AM
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Going to do a 24 hr test with my full farm here shortly, Just finalizing the configs. Should throw about 30MH/s as dev fee.
Edit: Sending the command out now to switch to GG

Looking pretty good so far. Thanks a lot!

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