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[sblack]

Hi
Why zpool show different neoscrypt coins in Last 50 Earnings?
I set c=INN,d=64 and c=ORB,d=64 but never see ORB but see Innova mixed with Trezar, Vivo and Gun coins 

[blackhorse7]

Hi
Why zpool show different neoscrypt coins in Last 50 Earnings?
I set c=INN,d=64 and c=ORB,d=64 but never see ORB but see Innova mixed with Trezar, Vivo and Gun coins 

There is an issue with stratum server:
When I set miner to mine a coin with password c=coinSymbol and proper wallet address for this coin, server is giving a job from another coin.
And it is not a job from currently most profitable coin, but probably random.
For now neoscrypt:

Code:

Orbit (neoscrypt)	1 ORB	1.051	2 301 988 (12%)	1 sec	45.8 MH/s	0.35046
Phoenix (neoscrypt)	25.1 PXC	1.332	1 557 393 (17%)	2 secs	59.2 MH/s	0.26436
Halcyon (neoscrypt)	5 HAL	0.804	945 426 (8%)	1 sec	46.3 MH/s	0.22785
Gun (neoscrypt)	150 GUN	1.957	803 705 (39%)	3 secs	93.8 MH/s	0.22095
Trezar (neoscrypt)	100.01 TZC	20.879	102 546 (25%)	38 secs	541.9 MH/s	0.18353
Vivo (neoscrypt)	5.0001552 VIVO	261.059	55 337 (23%)	8 mins	1.5 GH/s	0.16654
Innova (neoscrypt)	10.0003096 INN	763.542	18 268 (10%)	23 mins	3.8 MH/s	0.12725

My setup:

Code:

ccminer-neoscrypt -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://neoscrypt.mine.zpool.ca:4233 -u i6zP24UQVBMLJ6P5CuRxXb9dYNZ5JWNaHo.evga -p neoscrypt,c=INN,stats

miner window - given jobs:

Code:

[2017-11-15 22:23:59] neoscrypt.mine.zpool.ca:4233 neoscrypt block 55338
[2017-11-15 22:25:04] neoscrypt.mine.zpool.ca:4233 neoscrypt block 55338
[2017-11-15 22:25:25] neoscrypt.mine.zpool.ca:4233 neoscrypt block 102549
[2017-11-15 22:25:37] neoscrypt.mine.zpool.ca:4233 neoscrypt block 102550
[2017-11-15 22:26:08] neoscrypt.mine.zpool.ca:4233 neoscrypt block 55338
[2017-11-15 22:26:29] neoscrypt.mine.zpool.ca:4233 neoscrypt block 55338
[2017-11-15 22:27:33] neoscrypt.mine.zpool.ca:4233 neoscrypt block 55338
[2017-11-15 22:28:04] neoscrypt.mine.zpool.ca:4233 neoscrypt block 55339
[2017-11-15 22:28:59] neoscrypt.mine.zpool.ca:4233 neoscrypt block 55339

Server gave jobs from Trezar and Vivo, not from Innova.

When I do the same on altminer.net pool, it is doing properly, server is giving a job for coin chosen by password.

Code:

Feathercoin (neoscrypt)	80 FTC	2.478	1 072 205	3 secs		10.92372
Phoenixcoin (neoscrypt)	25 PXC	1.33	1 557 420 (0%)	4 days	14.3 kh/s	0.29778
OrbitCoin (neoscrypt)	1 ORB	1.632	2 301 999 (0%)	2 secs		0.25793
Halcyon (neoscrypt)	5 HAL	0.924	945 446 (0%)	2 hours	458.1 kh/s	0.22582
VIVO (neoscrypt)	5 VIVO	280.946	55 340 (8%)	41 mins	485.6 Mh/s	0.18396
TrezarCoin (neoscrypt)	100.01 TZC	25.026	102 558 (8%)	18 mins	95.1 Mh/s	0.17449
Innova (neoscrypt)	10 INN	763.542	18 268 (19%)	25 mins	2.2 Gh/s	0.14494
UFOCoin (neoscrypt)	1250 UFO	2.327	1 149 109 (44%)	3 mins	51.2 Mh/s	0.00000
Desire (neoscrypt)	19.2 DSR	106.453	17 184 (18%)	18 mins	423.1 Mh/s	0.00000
Onex Cash (neoscrypt)	10 ONEX	178.52	2 879 (0%)	3 weeks	322.2 kh/s	0.0000

Code:

[2017-11-15 22:35:14] eu1.altminer.net:4233 neoscrypt block 18269
[2017-11-15 22:35:39] eu1.altminer.net:4233 neoscrypt block 18269
[2017-11-15 22:36:44] eu1.altminer.net:4233 neoscrypt block 18269

Mister Crackfoo, please verify this and repair

[Lercker]

Hi
Why zpool show different neoscrypt coins in Last 50 Earnings?
I set c=INN,d=64 and c=ORB,d=64 but never see ORB but see Innova mixed with Trezar, Vivo and Gun coins 

There is an issue with stratum server:
When I set miner to mine a coin with password c=coinSymbol and proper wallet address for this coin, server is giving a job from another coin.
And it is not a job from currently most profitable coin, but probably random.

My setup:

Code:

ccminer-neoscrypt -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://neoscrypt.mine.zpool.ca:4233 -u i6zP24UQVBMLJ6P5CuRxXb9dYNZ5JWNaHo.evga -p neoscrypt,c=INN,stats

miner window - given jobs:

Server gave jobs from Trezar and Vivo, not from Innova.

When I do the same on altminer.net pool, it is doing properly, server is giving a job for coin chosen by password.



Mister Crackfoo, please verify this and repair

Pool mines the most "profitable" coin in the algo no matter what your payout is set for.  The c parameter is just for coin to be paid out in not to mine a specific coin.

[sblack]

Thanks for answers! This should be fixed of course
PS

YOU MUST ALWAYS set your currency in your password field: c=<SYMBOL>
If no c=<SYMBOL> is set, your currency will be randomly chosen from any matching coins we have used.

So c=<SYMBOL> is for mine a specific coin

[JaredKaragen]

Hi
Why zpool show different neoscrypt coins in Last 50 Earnings?
I set c=INN,d=64 and c=ORB,d=64 but never see ORB but see Innova mixed with Trezar, Vivo and Gun coins  

Hi
Why zpool show different neoscrypt coins in Last 50 Earnings?
I set c=INN,d=64 and c=ORB,d=64 but never see ORB but see Innova mixed with Trezar, Vivo and Gun coins  

There is an issue with stratum server:
When I set miner to mine a coin with password c=coinSymbol and proper wallet address for this coin, server is giving a job from another coin.
And it is not a job from currently most profitable coin, but probably random.
For now neoscrypt:

REMOVED CODE SNIPS


Mister Crackfoo, please verify this and repair

This pool works off of mining algorythms, not specific coins.

This keeps things profitable.

If you want to mine a specific coin only, to only support that coin and be stuck to its profitability:

you must either set up your own wallet/blockchain/stratum and mine
or connect to a pool that only mines that coin.

Thanks for answers! This should be fixed of course
PS

YOU MUST ALWAYS set your currency in your password field: c=<SYMBOL>
If no c=<SYMBOL> is set, your currency will be randomly chosen from any matching coins we have used.

So c=<SYMBOL> is for mine a specific coin

no;  c=SYMBOL us to select what coin you will be paid in only.

[sblack]

what about -u <wallet>? ))))
I mine 5 coins but specified BTC wallet and my ballance in BTC and BTC will be paid
blackhorse7's wallet is innova wallet

[blackhorse7]

you must either set up your own wallet/blockchain/stratum and mine
or connect to a pool that only mines that coin.

When I do the same on altminer.net pool, it is doing properly, server is giving a job for coin chosen by password.

ok, seems legit

[Lercker]

you must either set up your own wallet/blockchain/stratum and mine
or connect to a pool that only mines that coin.

When I do the same on altminer.net pool, it is doing properly, server is giving a job for coin chosen by password.

ok, seems legit

You don't see this on Zpool's main page. This is what non-multipool yiimp based pools have on the main page:
 <WALLET_ADDRESS> should be valid for the currency you mine. DO NOT USE a BTC address here, the auto exchange is disabled!
As optional password, you can use -p c=<SYMBOL> if yiimp does not set the currency correctly on the Wallet page.

[guytechie]

I know on the dashboard, we see the last 50 earnings.  Is there a view or page where we can see more than that?

Thanks.

[JaredKaragen]

you must either set up your own wallet/blockchain/stratum and mine
or connect to a pool that only mines that coin.

When I do the same on altminer.net pool, it is doing properly, server is giving a job for coin chosen by password.

ok, seems legit

You don't see this on Zpool's main page. This is what non-multipool yiimp based pools have on the main page:
 <WALLET_ADDRESS> should be valid for the currency you mine. DO NOT USE a BTC address here, the auto exchange is disabled!
As optional password, you can use -p c=<SYMBOL> if yiimp does not set the currency correctly on the Wallet page.

But the whole description is describing the type of payout address you are using;  nowhere does the main page mention that its for selecting of a coin,

it was all about describing what type of payout address you are using.

[guytechie]

Looks like m7m is down.

EDIT: It's back up.

[blackhorse7]

This pool works off of mining algorythms, not specific coins.
This keeps things profitable.

Now:

Code:

Phoenix (neoscrypt)	25 PXC	1.529	1 557 817 (32%)	0 sec	98.9 MH/s	0.25665
Vivo (neoscrypt)	5 VIVO	198.225	55 601 (44%)	60 secs	12.8 GH/s	0.24522
Trezar (neoscrypt)	100 TZC	17.086	103 072 (2%)	5 secs	1.7 GH/s	0.24255
Orbit (neoscrypt)	1 ORB	1.8	2 302 259 (20%)	0 sec	82.1 MH/s	0.20449
Halcyon (neoscrypt)	5 HAL	1.233	945 732 (10%)	0 sec	62.9 MH/s	0.14917
Gun (neoscrypt)	150 GUN	3.064	803 867 (62%)	0 sec	137.4 MH/s	0.14110

Code:

Phoenix (neoscrypt)	25.00000000 PXC	1.529	1 557 819	84s ago	Immature (1/101)
Phoenix (neoscrypt)	25.00000000 PXC	1.529	1 557 817	3m ago	Immature (3/101)
Gun (neoscrypt)	150.00000000 GUN	2.783	803 867	3m ago	Immature (1/80)
Vivo (neoscrypt)	5.00000000 VIVO	178.771	55 601	4m ago	Immature (1/101)
Gun (neoscrypt)	150.00000000 GUN	2.789	803 865	4m ago	Immature (3/80)
Vivo (neoscrypt)	5.00000000 VIVO	191.047	55 600	4m ago	Immature (2/101)
Orbit (neoscrypt)	1.00000000 ORB	1.755	2 302 259	4m ago	Immature (3/201)
Phoenix (neoscrypt)	25.10000000 PXC	1.529	1 557 814	5m ago	Immature (6/101)
Phoenix (neoscrypt)	25.00000000 PXC	1.529	1 557 813	5m ago	Immature (7/101)
Orbit (neoscrypt)	1.00000000 ORB	1.93	2 302 258	6m ago	Immature (4/201)
Orbit (neoscrypt)	1.00000000 ORB	2.123	2 302 257	6m ago	Immature (5/201)
Orbit (neoscrypt)	1.00000000 ORB	2.336	2 302 255	6m ago	Immature (7/201)
Orbit (neoscrypt)	1.00000000 ORB	2.569	2 302 254	6m ago	Immature (8/201)

If server keeps things profitable, why gave to work on Orbit and Gun?
This is why I affraid that there may be something wrong (and not only me).
Noone is perfect, maybe there is a bug in server work giving procedure, and this is the right place to write about it

[JaredKaragen]

This pool works off of mining algorythms, not specific coins.
This keeps things profitable.

Now:

Code:

Phoenix (neoscrypt)	25 PXC	1.529	1 557 817 (32%)	0 sec	98.9 MH/s	0.25665
Vivo (neoscrypt)	5 VIVO	198.225	55 601 (44%)	60 secs	12.8 GH/s	0.24522
Trezar (neoscrypt)	100 TZC	17.086	103 072 (2%)	5 secs	1.7 GH/s	0.24255
Orbit (neoscrypt)	1 ORB	1.8	2 302 259 (20%)	0 sec	82.1 MH/s	0.20449
Halcyon (neoscrypt)	5 HAL	1.233	945 732 (10%)	0 sec	62.9 MH/s	0.14917
Gun (neoscrypt)	150 GUN	3.064	803 867 (62%)	0 sec	137.4 MH/s	0.14110

Code:

Phoenix (neoscrypt)	25.00000000 PXC	1.529	1 557 819	84s ago	Immature (1/101)
Phoenix (neoscrypt)	25.00000000 PXC	1.529	1 557 817	3m ago	Immature (3/101)
Gun (neoscrypt)	150.00000000 GUN	2.783	803 867	3m ago	Immature (1/80)
Vivo (neoscrypt)	5.00000000 VIVO	178.771	55 601	4m ago	Immature (1/101)
Gun (neoscrypt)	150.00000000 GUN	2.789	803 865	4m ago	Immature (3/80)
Vivo (neoscrypt)	5.00000000 VIVO	191.047	55 600	4m ago	Immature (2/101)
Orbit (neoscrypt)	1.00000000 ORB	1.755	2 302 259	4m ago	Immature (3/201)
Phoenix (neoscrypt)	25.10000000 PXC	1.529	1 557 814	5m ago	Immature (6/101)
Phoenix (neoscrypt)	25.00000000 PXC	1.529	1 557 813	5m ago	Immature (7/101)
Orbit (neoscrypt)	1.00000000 ORB	1.93	2 302 258	6m ago	Immature (4/201)
Orbit (neoscrypt)	1.00000000 ORB	2.123	2 302 257	6m ago	Immature (5/201)
Orbit (neoscrypt)	1.00000000 ORB	2.336	2 302 255	6m ago	Immature (7/201)
Orbit (neoscrypt)	1.00000000 ORB	2.569	2 302 254	6m ago	Immature (8/201)

If server keeps things profitable, why gave to work on Orbit and Gun?
This is why I affraid that there may be something wrong (and not only me).
Noone is perfect, maybe there is a bug in server work giving procedure, and this is the right place to write about it

Its very complicated. 

TTF plays a big part, as well as coin value.   You must think deep into it and research how the stratum code works.....

[blackhorse7]

Please illuminate us. I know that this is important to mine on pool which has as much percentage of global hashrate as possible, to maximize blocks count found - in opposite if I mine on not popular pool probability to find the block on this pool is reduced and not fulfill bigger allotment from found block.
Situation with those chosing jobs on zpool is for us just incomprehensible, help us to understand why it is better

[sblack]

I tested it with hashrefinery. all the same. it mine Phoenixcoin instead of ORB.
I think this is yiimp fork problem

[jkminkov]

read yaamp topic, code was written to be protective towards small coins, what you preffer put all that Gh/Th on one coin, so other would die till 0 difficulty then whale that Gh/Th on those coins and produce mass fork and kill them one by one or keep them alive with marginal % of your total hashpower and hope for better day, just check % of total hashrate put on those small coins.

[sundownz]

Is VEGA coin (Tribus algo) really totally ZERO value now ? If so perhaps should be removed =)

[JaredKaragen]

Please illuminate us. I know that this is important to mine on pool which has as much percentage of global hashrate as possible, to maximize blocks count found - in opposite if I mine on not popular pool probability to find the block on this pool is reduced and not fulfill bigger allotment from found block.
Situation with those chosing jobs on zpool is for us just incomprehensible, help us to understand why it is better

read yaamp topic, code was written to be protective towards small coins, what you preffer put all that Gh/Th on one coin, so other would die till 0 difficulty then whale that Gh/Th on those coins and produce mass fork and kill them one by one or keep them alive with marginal % of your total hashpower and hope for better day, just check % of total hashrate put on those small coins.

This is a good short summary of one aspect.... but there are hundreds of things like this little detail that all add up to one big mess of a complicated system.

I suggest that if you think the way this stratum works may be an erroneous way to mine, that you find a solo pool that functions the way you want it to or think it should.  Its always an option.

I myself have gone over the code, somewhat understand what I am looking at... and am still confused on how it makes these important decisions overall.


But for what its worth, I have done both profit switching scripts (multi-algo) and solo-algo mining, and I have had good results with both.... but in my opinion, I have found better consistency in profit (during times of serious market flux) staying with one algo that is profitable for me to mine rather than doing profit switching.

I also tend to mine algos with few coins compared to others.... but I don't really think that detail plays as much of a part as how big the pools' hashrates are compared to the network hashrates are on a per-coin basis.

Is VEGA coin (Tribus algo) really totally ZERO value now ? If so perhaps should be removed =)

Sometimes coins will be shown as zero value because they are offline at the exchange (wallet needs updated?  exchange on fork? etc), or a few other reasons.... Usually if they aren't planned on being a dropped coin, the pool will sit and nibble on a block or two here and there to get shares in the middle times of larger diff coins.... [crackfoo's nuts at the bar analogy comes in here], and when they finally get fixed/online/whatever, you get the big bump in credit when the funds are sold/sent to the exchange.   I remember this happening before.

[sundownz]

Is VEGA coin (Tribus algo) really totally ZERO value now ? If so perhaps should be removed =)

Sometimes coins will be shown as zero value because they are offline at the exchange (wallet needs updated?  exchange on fork? etc), or a few other reasons.... Usually if they aren't planned on being a dropped coin, the pool will sit and nibble on a block or two here and there to get shares in the middle times of larger diff coins.... [crackfoo's nuts at the bar analogy comes in here], and when they finally get fixed/online/whatever, you get the big bump in credit when the funds are sold/sent to the exchange.   I remember this happening before.

I see -- well that is all good then =)

[crackfoo]

Is VEGA coin (Tribus algo) really totally ZERO value now ? If so perhaps should be removed =)

Sometimes coins will be shown as zero value because they are offline at the exchange (wallet needs updated?  exchange on fork? etc), or a few other reasons.... Usually if they aren't planned on being a dropped coin, the pool will sit and nibble on a block or two here and there to get shares in the middle times of larger diff coins.... [crackfoo's nuts at the bar analogy comes in here], and when they finally get fixed/online/whatever, you get the big bump in credit when the funds are sold/sent to the exchange.   I remember this happening before.

I see -- well that is all good then =)

novaexchange won't fix their API and that's the only exchange it's on, so it can't get pricing and can't to trading so its 0.