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February 12, 2018, 09:02:41 AM
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Hello ;-)

Problems with Zpool.ca? I rented a 24 hour 230 TH/s rental, but i just see 130 on Zpool.ca, while MRR gives 230 TH/s
At other sites, it matches up the rental speed.

http://www.zpool.ca/?address=1Ev698UrUTL52wyrdRfRK25BfjXaA7YDWd

Anyone an idea what is happening here?

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February 12, 2018, 11:26:38 AM
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Hello ;-)

Problems with Zpool.ca? I rented a 24 hour 230 TH/s rental, but i just see 130 on Zpool.ca, while MRR gives 230 TH/s
At other sites, it matches up the rental speed.

http://www.zpool.ca/?address=1Ev698UrUTL52wyrdRfRK25BfjXaA7YDWd

Anyone an idea what is happening here?

Regards,

DS-M/Sander

https://imgur.com/a/ntJq6

as i see it, seems ok.

Looks like several connections from the different rigs;  seeing over 280Th in the screenshot.

it will vary;  share diff gets trimmed, share% deltas up to normal.   Short rentals aren't the best, 24hr+ are better.

Looks like it was probably a combination of share diff returns (luck) and auto-diff+ deltas.

to add, its hard to factor in any disconnects since you don't actually see the miner's logs on your end.

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February 12, 2018, 12:47:35 PM
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My experience so far with Zpool has been excellent, though I admit I'm only on day 3 of testing.

The first 24 hours I mined Lyra2v2, auto-converting to VTC, and got exactly the amount of VTC my hashrate and average difficulty predicted; yes, I understand that as an auto-convert pool there will be much more variation in payout, but it's nice to see reality match theory anyway.

The next 24 hours I mined Lyra2v2, auto-converting to XVG, and received 51 vs. 53 expected - close enough for me given the above.

Now I am running NemosMiner to test Zpool in multi-algo, auto-convert to BTC mode and will be comparing it to a similar rig running NiceHash for at least 3 days. Even if Zpool doesn't win this competition I will still use it in single algo mode because it has performed far better than similar tests done at HashRefinery, MiningPoolHub, and Zergpool.
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February 12, 2018, 01:41:32 PM
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My experience so far with Zpool has been excellent, though I admit I'm only on day 3 of testing.

The first 24 hours I mined Lyra2v2, auto-converting to VTC, and got exactly the amount of VTC my hashrate and average difficulty predicted; yes, I understand that as an auto-convert pool there will be much more variation in payout, but it's nice to see reality match theory anyway.

The next 24 hours I mined Lyra2v2, auto-converting to XVG, and received 51 vs. 53 expected - close enough for me given the above.

Now I am running NemosMiner to test Zpool in multi-algo, auto-convert to BTC mode and will be comparing it to a similar rig running NiceHash for at least 3 days. Even if Zpool doesn't win this competition I will still use it in single algo mode because it has performed far better than similar tests done at HashRefinery, MiningPoolHub, and Zergpool.


thanks for running this benchmark. It nice to know we're keeping up the profitably, it's our main goal.

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February 12, 2018, 09:26:46 PM
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Is it just me? or is SHA256 doing amazingly well right now? Awesomeminer is showing $152/day on an Antminer S9
Not that I'm complaining, just want to make sure its not some API bug
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February 12, 2018, 09:27:59 PM
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Is it just me? or is SHA256 doing amazingly well right now? Awesomeminer is showing $152/day on an Antminer S9
Not that I'm complaining, just want to make sure its not some API bug

Same for me - AM just switched over to Zpool showing $157 a day on each S9. Must be a bug I can't be this lucky lol
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February 13, 2018, 01:29:56 AM
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Hello Zpool,

Well after almost a day of hashing without miners being kicked to backup pools, it happened again.
Rental - to backuppool, own miners 4 connected, 1 to backuppool.

Dont know what it is, but its frustrating... Hickup or what-so-ever...

18 S9's disconnected. I seriously stratum overload ?
2 L3's stayed connected, with 200 MH/s left ?

http://www.zpool.ca/?address=1Ev698UrUTL52wyrdRfRK25BfjXaA7YDWd

Any one idea? It's not to stable at this time of day (02.20 european time).


Anyway switched back to Zpool.ca ,  hope to keep mining. :-)

DS-M/Sander



I just changed some setting on the sql server and had to restart it. Would have caused the disconnects...

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February 13, 2018, 11:37:02 AM
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Hello Zpool,

Well after almost a day of hashing without miners being kicked to backup pools, it happened again.
Rental - to backuppool, own miners 4 connected, 1 to backuppool.

Dont know what it is, but its frustrating... Hickup or what-so-ever...

18 S9's disconnected. I seriously stratum overload ?
2 L3's stayed connected, with 200 MH/s left ?

http://www.zpool.ca/?address=1Ev698UrUTL52wyrdRfRK25BfjXaA7YDWd

Any one idea? It's not to stable at this time of day (02.20 european time).


Anyway switched back to Zpool.ca ,  hope to keep mining. :-)

DS-M/Sander



I just changed some setting on the sql server and had to restart it. Would have caused the disconnects...


Perhaps then we should take a look, for a SQL-replica server? Had to build those as well in my time as systems-engineer.
Anyway thanks for updating !
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February 13, 2018, 01:17:49 PM
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My experience so far with Zpool has been excellent, though I admit I'm only on day 3 of testing.

The first 24 hours I mined Lyra2v2, auto-converting to VTC, and got exactly the amount of VTC my hashrate and average difficulty predicted; yes, I understand that as an auto-convert pool there will be much more variation in payout, but it's nice to see reality match theory anyway.

The next 24 hours I mined Lyra2v2, auto-converting to XVG, and received 51 vs. 53 expected - close enough for me given the above.

Now I am running NemosMiner to test Zpool in multi-algo, auto-convert to BTC mode and will be comparing it to a similar rig running NiceHash for at least 3 days. Even if Zpool doesn't win this competition I will still use it in single algo mode because it has performed far better than similar tests done at HashRefinery, MiningPoolHub, and Zergpool.

A quick update after the first 24 hours of running - NiceHash is currently ahead with 0.33331 mBTC earned vs. 0.29274 mBTC immature + earned at Zpool.

The two rigs I have set up for doing these kinds of tests consist of a single GTX 1080 that I have tuned to deliver the same  Sols/s (+/0 0.5) in Equihash. The algos I have selected in NemosMiner for Zpool are:

poly,hsr,keccak,xevan,skunk,tribus,phi,skein,equihash,groestl,sib,bitcore,x17,blakecoin,Nist5,MyriadGroestl,Lyra2RE2,neoscrypt,blake2s,lyra2z

Other settings in the NemosMiner bat file are to check profitability every 60 seconds (-interval 60) and switch algos at 5% difference in profitability (-ActiveMinerGainPct 5).

For NiceHash I have all of the single algos selected except for a few that I know have been ASIC'ed: keccak, nist5, neoscrypt, Lyra2rev2, DaggerHashimoto, Cryptonight, Equihash, Pascal, Blake2s. Oops, looks like I left Pascal enabled, even though it has been ASIC'ed... Oh well, can't change it now without invalidating the test.

One other update - I got credited for 1.5 more XVG in my earlier test so that brought the total up to 52.5 actual vs. 53 predicted; again, not the most scientific of tests, since one is mining multiple coins with a single algo, then converting everything mined to one of those coins, but you really can't complain if you get exactly the amount of coin your hashrate and average difficulty predict.*


* - I am well aware that this is not a terribly accurate means of evaluating the performance of a pool or miner, but there simply isn't any other way to do it when switching coins, much less switching algos.
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February 13, 2018, 04:32:27 PM
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Is it just me? or is SHA256 doing amazingly well right now? Awesomeminer is showing $152/day on an Antminer S9
Not that I'm complaining, just want to make sure its not some API bug
Awesomeminer also shows me $152/day.
Must be a bug, because I'm mining on zpool from 3 hrs and the results are not as I would get $152/day.
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February 13, 2018, 06:33:38 PM
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Anything up with X17 I am not seeing hash rate on the site but my miners are still working?  It also not paid out for over 5 hours?
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February 13, 2018, 06:53:59 PM
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How is it even possible to measure, unless you have two identical cards at identical speeds? running at the same time?

My experience so far with Zpool has been excellent, though I admit I'm only on day 3 of testing.

The first 24 hours I mined Lyra2v2, auto-converting to VTC, and got exactly the amount of VTC my hashrate and average difficulty predicted; yes, I understand that as an auto-convert pool there will be much more variation in payout, but it's nice to see reality match theory anyway.

The next 24 hours I mined Lyra2v2, auto-converting to XVG, and received 51 vs. 53 expected - close enough for me given the above.

Now I am running NemosMiner to test Zpool in multi-algo, auto-convert to BTC mode and will be comparing it to a similar rig running NiceHash for at least 3 days. Even if Zpool doesn't win this competition I will still use it in single algo mode because it has performed far better than similar tests done at HashRefinery, MiningPoolHub, and Zergpool.

A quick update after the first 24 hours of running - NiceHash is currently ahead with 0.33331 mBTC earned vs. 0.29274 mBTC immature + earned at Zpool.

The two rigs I have set up for doing these kinds of tests consist of a single GTX 1080 that I have tuned to deliver the same  Sols/s (+/0 0.5) in Equihash. The algos I have selected in NemosMiner for Zpool are:

poly,hsr,keccak,xevan,skunk,tribus,phi,skein,equihash,groestl,sib,bitcore,x17,blakecoin,Nist5,MyriadGroestl,Lyra2RE2,neoscrypt,blake2s,lyra2z

Other settings in the NemosMiner bat file are to check profitability every 60 seconds (-interval 60) and switch algos at 5% difference in profitability (-ActiveMinerGainPct 5).

For NiceHash I have all of the single algos selected except for a few that I know have been ASIC'ed: keccak, nist5, neoscrypt, Lyra2rev2, DaggerHashimoto, Cryptonight, Equihash, Pascal, Blake2s. Oops, looks like I left Pascal enabled, even though it has been ASIC'ed... Oh well, can't change it now without invalidating the test.

One other update - I got credited for 1.5 more XVG in my earlier test so that brought the total up to 52.5 actual vs. 53 predicted; again, not the most scientific of tests, since one is mining multiple coins with a single algo, then converting everything mined to one of those coins, but you really can't complain if you get exactly the amount of coin your hashrate and average difficulty predict.*


* - I am well aware that this is not a terribly accurate means of evaluating the performance of a pool or miner, but there simply isn't any other way to do it when switching coins, much less switching algos.
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February 13, 2018, 07:03:40 PM
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How is it even possible to measure, unless you have two identical cards at identical speeds? running at the same time?

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The two rigs I have set up for doing these kinds of tests consist of a single GTX 1080 that I have tuned to deliver the same  Sols/s (+/0 0.5) in Equihash.

Yes, NiceHash and NemosMiner/Zpool are running concurrently on separate rigs that have been matched very closely on one particular algo (Equihash). I didn't check every algo exhaustively, but I can tell you that Neoscrypt runs at the same speed on both cards as well.

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February 13, 2018, 07:45:52 PM
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Thanks. Can you do the same at ahashpool and miningpoolhub please?
How is it even possible to measure, unless you have two identical cards at identical speeds? running at the same time?

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The two rigs I have set up for doing these kinds of tests consist of a single GTX 1080 that I have tuned to deliver the same  Sols/s (+/0 0.5) in Equihash.

Yes, NiceHash and NemosMiner/Zpool are running concurrently on separate rigs that have been matched very closely on one particular algo (Equihash). I didn't check every algo exhaustively, but I can tell you that Neoscrypt runs at the same speed on both cards as well.


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February 13, 2018, 08:09:22 PM
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Thanks. Can you do the same at ahashpool and miningpoolhub please?

No to ahashpool because the 0.01 BTC minimum payout is too high when all you got to test it is a single GTX 1080 (about 30 days to reach 0.01 BTC). Also, I am in the US and ahashpool is in Asia so probably not the best ping times (don't know because ahashpool.com is not pingable).

I already did a comparison of NemosMiner/MiningPoolHub vs. NiceHash and NH won that round by about 10%: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777336.msg29417942#msg29417942

Since Zpool is on the same track as MPH and BTC price isn't plummeting every day like it was when I tested MPH, I am leaning heavily towards blaming the auto-switching algo and/or how profitability is estimated. For example, during the current test of Zpool the top algo - whatever it may be - is always projected to earn at least 0.450 mBTC per day, whereas NH is holding fairly steady at around 0.300 mBTC per day.

It was because I was expecting this type of result that I wanted to mine a single algo and convert to a coin on Zpool first so I could get a good feel for any "slippage" that might be occurring, and as I already reported there wasn't any (not that my testing was exhaustive, but still, some testing is better than none at all).

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February 13, 2018, 09:42:25 PM
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Hello Zpool/Crackfoo ,

Just had my balance past at 0.01 btc, and didnt get a payment, after i watched the countdown...
http://www.zpool.ca/?address=1Ev698UrUTL52wyrdRfRK25BfjXaA7YDWd

Will wait trough though next payout schedule 3:53  remaining ...

Regards,

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February 13, 2018, 10:00:45 PM
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Hello Zpool/Crackfoo ,

Just had my balance past at 0.01 btc, and didnt get a payment, after i watched the countdown...
http://www.zpool.ca/?address=1Ev698UrUTL52wyrdRfRK25BfjXaA7YDWd

Will wait trough though next payout schedule 3:53  remaining ...

Regards,

DS-M/Sander o7





The timer isn't for BTC payouts. BTC payouts I run at different times, manually.

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February 13, 2018, 10:16:59 PM
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"Hi need a little help with multi Algo mining setup. I use zpool the template setup below is for windows . I just want to switch between blake2s and lyra2v2 whichever is most profitable. I have 2 commands in been using to switch manually
./ccminer -x64 -a lyra2v2 -o stratum+tcp://lyra2v2.mine.zpool.ca:4533 -u walletaddress -p c=XSH
./ccminer -x64 -a blake2s -o stratum+tcp://blake2s.mine.zpool.ca:5766 -u walletaddress -p c=XSH

how could i merge these two into choosing between the 2 algos? scratching my head a little im using ubuntu and ccminer"
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February 13, 2018, 10:29:24 PM
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Hello Zpool/Crackfoo ,

Just had my balance past at 0.01 btc, and didnt get a payment, after i watched the countdown...
http://www.zpool.ca/?address=1Ev698UrUTL52wyrdRfRK25BfjXaA7YDWd

Will wait trough though next payout schedule 3:53  remaining ...

Regards,

DS-M/Sander o7





The timer isn't for BTC payouts. BTC payouts I run at different times, manually.

Ah... Well it would be fun if there's a counter for that too ..... ;-)

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February 13, 2018, 10:58:20 PM
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Is it just me? or is SHA256 doing amazingly well right now? Awesomeminer is showing $152/day on an Antminer S9
Not that I'm complaining, just want to make sure its not some API bug
Awesomeminer also shows me $152/day.
Must be a bug, because I'm mining on zpool from 3 hrs and the results are not as I would get $152/day.


It's back to correct estimates now
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