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[ibixable]

Anything up with X17 I am not seeing hash rate on the site but my miners are still working?  It also not paid out for over 5 hours?

[proteus7]

How is it even possible to measure, unless you have two identical cards at identical speeds? running at the same time?

My experience so far with Zpool has been excellent, though I admit I'm only on day 3 of testing.

The first 24 hours I mined Lyra2v2, auto-converting to VTC, and got exactly the amount of VTC my hashrate and average difficulty predicted; yes, I understand that as an auto-convert pool there will be much more variation in payout, but it's nice to see reality match theory anyway.

The next 24 hours I mined Lyra2v2, auto-converting to XVG, and received 51 vs. 53 expected - close enough for me given the above.

Now I am running NemosMiner to test Zpool in multi-algo, auto-convert to BTC mode and will be comparing it to a similar rig running NiceHash for at least 3 days. Even if Zpool doesn't win this competition I will still use it in single algo mode because it has performed far better than similar tests done at HashRefinery, MiningPoolHub, and Zergpool.

A quick update after the first 24 hours of running - NiceHash is currently ahead with 0.33331 mBTC earned vs. 0.29274 mBTC immature + earned at Zpool.

The two rigs I have set up for doing these kinds of tests consist of a single GTX 1080 that I have tuned to deliver the same  Sols/s (+/0 0.5) in Equihash. The algos I have selected in NemosMiner for Zpool are:

poly,hsr,keccak,xevan,skunk,tribus,phi,skein,equihash,groestl,sib,bitcore,x17,blakecoin,Nist5,MyriadGroestl,Lyra2RE2,neoscrypt,blake2s,lyra2z

Other settings in the NemosMiner bat file are to check profitability every 60 seconds (-interval 60) and switch algos at 5% difference in profitability (-ActiveMinerGainPct 5).

For NiceHash I have all of the single algos selected except for a few that I know have been ASIC'ed: keccak, nist5, neoscrypt, Lyra2rev2, DaggerHashimoto, Cryptonight, Equihash, Pascal, Blake2s. Oops, looks like I left Pascal enabled, even though it has been ASIC'ed... Oh well, can't change it now without invalidating the test.

One other update - I got credited for 1.5 more XVG in my earlier test so that brought the total up to 52.5 actual vs. 53 predicted; again, not the most scientific of tests, since one is mining multiple coins with a single algo, then converting everything mined to one of those coins, but you really can't complain if you get exactly the amount of coin your hashrate and average difficulty predict.*


* - I am well aware that this is not a terribly accurate means of evaluating the performance of a pool or miner, but there simply isn't any other way to do it when switching coins, much less switching algos.

[MagicSmoker]

How is it even possible to measure, unless you have two identical cards at identical speeds? running at the same time?

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The two rigs I have set up for doing these kinds of tests consist of a single GTX 1080 that I have tuned to deliver the same  Sols/s (+/0 0.5) in Equihash.

Yes, NiceHash and NemosMiner/Zpool are running concurrently on separate rigs that have been matched very closely on one particular algo (Equihash). I didn't check every algo exhaustively, but I can tell you that Neoscrypt runs at the same speed on both cards as well.

[proteus7]

Thanks. Can you do the same at ahashpool and miningpoolhub please?

How is it even possible to measure, unless you have two identical cards at identical speeds? running at the same time?

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The two rigs I have set up for doing these kinds of tests consist of a single GTX 1080 that I have tuned to deliver the same  Sols/s (+/0 0.5) in Equihash.

Yes, NiceHash and NemosMiner/Zpool are running concurrently on separate rigs that have been matched very closely on one particular algo (Equihash). I didn't check every algo exhaustively, but I can tell you that Neoscrypt runs at the same speed on both cards as well.

[MagicSmoker]

Thanks. Can you do the same at ahashpool and miningpoolhub please?

No to ahashpool because the 0.01 BTC minimum payout is too high when all you got to test it is a single GTX 1080 (about 30 days to reach 0.01 BTC). Also, I am in the US and ahashpool is in Asia so probably not the best ping times (don't know because ahashpool.com is not pingable).

I already did a comparison of NemosMiner/MiningPoolHub vs. NiceHash and NH won that round by about 10%: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777336.msg29417942#msg29417942

Since Zpool is on the same track as MPH and BTC price isn't plummeting every day like it was when I tested MPH, I am leaning heavily towards blaming the auto-switching algo and/or how profitability is estimated. For example, during the current test of Zpool the top algo - whatever it may be - is always projected to earn at least 0.450 mBTC per day, whereas NH is holding fairly steady at around 0.300 mBTC per day.

It was because I was expecting this type of result that I wanted to mine a single algo and convert to a coin on Zpool first so I could get a good feel for any "slippage" that might be occurring, and as I already reported there wasn't any (not that my testing was exhaustive, but still, some testing is better than none at all).

[DS-M]

Hello Zpool/Crackfoo ,

Just had my balance past at 0.01 btc, and didnt get a payment, after i watched the countdown...
http://www.zpool.ca/?address=1Ev698UrUTL52wyrdRfRK25BfjXaA7YDWd

Will wait trough though next payout schedule 3:53  remaining ...

Regards,

DS-M/Sander o7

[crackfoo]

Hello Zpool/Crackfoo ,

Just had my balance past at 0.01 btc, and didnt get a payment, after i watched the countdown...
http://www.zpool.ca/?address=1Ev698UrUTL52wyrdRfRK25BfjXaA7YDWd

Will wait trough though next payout schedule 3:53  remaining ...

Regards,

DS-M/Sander o7

The timer isn't for BTC payouts. BTC payouts I run at different times, manually.

[madmack1]

"Hi need a little help with multi Algo mining setup. I use zpool the template setup below is for windows . I just want to switch between blake2s and lyra2v2 whichever is most profitable. I have 2 commands in been using to switch manually
./ccminer -x64 -a lyra2v2 -o stratum+tcp://lyra2v2.mine.zpool.ca:4533 -u walletaddress -p c=XSH
./ccminer -x64 -a blake2s -o stratum+tcp://blake2s.mine.zpool.ca:5766 -u walletaddress -p c=XSH

how could i merge these two into choosing between the 2 algos? scratching my head a little im using ubuntu and ccminer"

[DS-M]

Hello Zpool/Crackfoo ,

Just had my balance past at 0.01 btc, and didnt get a payment, after i watched the countdown...
http://www.zpool.ca/?address=1Ev698UrUTL52wyrdRfRK25BfjXaA7YDWd

Will wait trough though next payout schedule 3:53  remaining ...

Regards,

DS-M/Sander o7

The timer isn't for BTC payouts. BTC payouts I run at different times, manually.

Ah... Well it would be fun if there's a counter for that too ..... ;-)

[CrypotoCreanis]

Is it just me? or is SHA256 doing amazingly well right now? Awesomeminer is showing $152/day on an Antminer S9
Not that I'm complaining, just want to make sure its not some API bug

Awesomeminer also shows me $152/day.
Must be a bug, because I'm mining on zpool from 3 hrs and the results are not as I would get $152/day.

It's back to correct estimates now

[JaredKaragen]

"Hi need a little help with multi Algo mining setup. I use zpool the template setup below is for windows . I just want to switch between blake2s and lyra2v2 whichever is most profitable. I have 2 commands in been using to switch manually
./ccminer -x64 -a lyra2v2 -o stratum+tcp://lyra2v2.mine.zpool.ca:4533 -u walletaddress -p c=XSH
./ccminer -x64 -a blake2s -o stratum+tcp://blake2s.mine.zpool.ca:5766 -u walletaddress -p c=XSH

how could i merge these two into choosing between the 2 algos? scratching my head a little im using ubuntu and ccminer"

take a look at the main page of zpool.ca and the algo switching section.

its by means of the password;  and setting your miner app to not retry any connections;  and looping them in a batch file to keep trying as the connections get dropped.  Also;  don't forget to normalize or you won't mine what's most profitable for your card.  Instructions to normalize are in the same link mentioned below; it will be in one of the older batch threads.


I also have a series of batch files linked in my sig for controlling the profit switching/algo manually, or automatically.

[wantknow]

What's wrong with DNR.

Surely use DNR address but display Digibyte ?

https://23.imgtrue.com/DNR1c8e25648f599b5d3.jpg
https://23.imgtrue.com/DNR2c66db169b10d94cf.jpg

bat

Code:

ccminer -a tribus -o stratum+tcp://tribus.mine.zpool.ca:8533 -u DEyv5sqYawPphYgaRmdruQdXrWij9cFaGT -p C=DNR

Could you please answer me ?
Can I mine DNR here, or just only BTC ?
(Latest status : DGB paided ... to ...)

Regards

[JaredKaragen]

What's wrong with DNR.

Surely use DNR address but display Digibyte ?




bat

Code:

ccminer -a tribus -o stratum+tcp://tribus.mine.zpool.ca:8533 -u DEyv5sqYawPphYgaRmdruQdXrWij9cFaGT -p C=DNR

Could you please answer me ?
Can I mine DNR here, or just only BTC ?
(Latest status : DGB paided ... to ...)

Regards

You mine on an algo.  Stratum picks the coin.

You only pick what you get paid in; via the c=XXX flag and the username being the wallet of that type...

if your password is trying to get paid in DNR, and you are getting DGB;  have crackfoo fix it for you.... but it sounds like you are trying to pick what coin you mine;  which this is not how the pool works.

[MagicSmoker]

Could you please answer me ?
Can I mine DNR here, or just only BTC ?
(Latest status : DGB paided ... to ...)

Regards

You mine on an algo.  Stratum picks the coin.

You only pick what you get paid in; via the c=XXX flag and the username being the wallet of that type...

if your password is trying to get paid in DNR, and you are getting DGB;  have crackfoo fix it for you.... but it sounds like you are trying to pick what coin you mine;  which this is not how the pool works.

Yes, just to reiterate what JaredKaragen wrote, you can pick the algo to mine and you can pick the coin to get paid in, but you can't pick a specific coin to mine. It's a subtle, but important, distinction.

[wantknow]

You only pick what you get paid in; via the c=XXX flag and the username being the wallet of that type...

if your password is trying to get paid in DNR, and you are getting DGB;  have crackfoo fix it for you.... but it sounds like you are trying to pick what coin you mine;  which this is not how the pool works.

Yes, I already show my bat.
use address DNR with option C=DNR, mining DNR, but got paid in DGB so I think something wrong.
No problem in other pool.

https://23.imgtrue.com/DNRDGBe60793f44f09de45.png

[HanopkaH]

Guys i have a question and ill be happy if someone answer it.

Right now im mining Bitcore but the block find time is very big ( like 1-2 hours).

So lets say my rigs are mining bitcore and then before the block is found they move to another coin that is more profitable by the program my whole progress is lost with the time mining on Bitcore right ?

Or im missing something.?

[MagicSmoker]

Guys i have a question and ill be happy if someone answer it.

Right now im mining Bitcore but the block find time is very big ( like 1-2 hours).

So lets say my rigs are mining bitcore and then before the block is found they move to another coin that is more profitable by the program my whole progress is lost with the time mining on Bitcore right ?

Or im missing something.?

You probably won't lose all of your earnings by switching before a block is found, but you'll likely lose some if the time to find the next block takes a lot longer than average and the pool uses "PPLNS" scheme. I wrote a fairly long post about the potential downsides to PPLNS in another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2898687.msg30133809#msg30133809 which hasn't been commented on so beware of any potential errors on my part.

EDIT - Zpool uses the Proportional payout scheme, not PPLNS, so the above comment is irrelevant.

[HanopkaH]

Guys i have a question and ill be happy if someone answer it.

Right now im mining Bitcore but the block find time is very big ( like 1-2 hours).

So lets say my rigs are mining bitcore and then before the block is found they move to another coin that is more profitable by the program my whole progress is lost with the time mining on Bitcore right ?

Or im missing something.?

You probably won't lose all of your earnings by switching before a block is found, but you'll likely lose some if the time to find the next block takes a lot longer than average and the pool use the uses "PPLNS" scheme. I wrote a fairly long post about the potential downsides to PPLNS in another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2898687.msg30133809#msg30133809 which hasn't been commented on so beware of any potential errors on my part.

Okay thank you for your asnwer and i will look into your post.

As of your post ill let the algos that take some time to find a blocks ( phi and bitcore as i know of ) still be active and see what will happen. If things dont run well ill just disable em.

[MagicSmoker]

A quick update after the first 24 hours of running - NiceHash is currently ahead with 0.33331 mBTC earned vs. 0.29274 mBTC immature + earned at Zpool.
...

Now at the 48 hour mark Zpool is just 2% behind NiceHash, with 0.64844 mBTC earned (mature + immature) vs. 0.66167 mBTC for NiceHash*. As I explain more in the above quoted post, any difference in earnings of 5% or less should be considered a tie due to the limitations of my test setup.

I will run this comparison for 1 more day - 3 in total - then I will point a bit more hashpower at Zpool to get my balance above the 2.5 mBTC minimum that is paid out manually several times per week.



* - most of this balance was transferred to the NH wallet and therefore incurred their 2% fee, so a more realistic comparison at this point (said fee is unavoidable).

[jkminkov]

Guys i have a question and ill be happy if someone answer it.

Right now im mining Bitcore but the block find time is very big ( like 1-2 hours).

So lets say my rigs are mining bitcore and then before the block is found they move to another coin that is more profitable by the program my whole progress is lost with the time mining on Bitcore right ?

Or im missing something.?

You probably won't lose all of your earnings by switching before a block is found, but you'll likely lose some if the time to find the next block takes a lot longer than average and the pool use the uses "PPLNS" scheme. I wrote a fairly long post about the potential downsides to PPLNS in another thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2898687.msg30133809#msg30133809 which hasn't been commented on so beware of any potential errors on my part.

don't spread missinformation, check 1st merit @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=209640