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August 06, 2014, 12:37:12 AM
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lol


Even if it is not true, that was so well written it was great fun to read Smiley

To da moon  Cool Cool Cool

Nice story thx for sharing.
hey FED?! MANDATORYYYY.. Grin
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August 06, 2014, 12:59:50 AM


Explanation
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August 06, 2014, 01:23:01 AM

BTCE, Huobi and OKCoin have built launchpads, Bearstamp waking up...
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August 06, 2014, 01:39:38 AM

Impressive depth on Huobi




You can say that again. With the liquidity on Huobi, there is no reason for me to look at any other exchange for analysis. Nobody can move the market if Huobo won't let them.

BTW, where is that screenshot from? At first, thought it was Bitcoinity, but...

Coinorama.net

Ask walls on huobi (totaling over 3k) removed Smiley

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August 06, 2014, 01:43:33 AM

An anonymous benefactor wrote up a trading algorithm for the unbanked ATM concept. Still needs to some work, but the basic concept appears to be sound:

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e1f2dfb2b5b8d8a87aec
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August 06, 2014, 01:55:40 AM

I am very bearish in the near-term. A whale has pretty obviously set up a bid wall that is so substantial that it shouldn't be breached or tested in order to sell off his holdings in front of that wall at an artificially inflated price. However, even with that market manipulation, the wall was tested and broken leading the whale to establish a wall twice the size now. Moreover, even with what is visually an insurmountable wall, the price has nonetheless stagnated -- we normally get a pop when we know it looks like there is a floor on the market.

So, this says to me that for all of the optimistic words on here that the average bitcoiner is not all that optimistic in the near term (weeks ago we would have thought of these prices as a steal and with the floor, if the market was steadier, you'd know the price couldn't go lower). Thus, exactly what sort of hell is going to break loose when the whale pulls the wall after selling off his load?

That's my take on what we are looking at. I traditionally lean bearish (on all things -- it's a personality trait), though, so take it with a grain of salt.
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Explanation
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August 06, 2014, 02:06:08 AM

bitcoin is going to 5,000$ haters gana hate.
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August 06, 2014, 02:09:48 AM

bitcoin is going to 5,000$ haters gana hate.

It may... I think $2000 is a more reasonable one year high water mark (just for psychological reasons... obviously it wouldn't seem high if you were looking at mBTC or market cap, but the average Joe won't look at those).

However, not this week.

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August 06, 2014, 03:55:16 AM

I am very bearish in the near-term. A whale has pretty obviously set up a bid wall that is so substantial that it shouldn't be breached or tested in order to sell off his holdings in front of that wall at an artificially inflated price. However, even with that market manipulation, the wall was tested and broken leading the whale to establish a wall twice the size now. Moreover, even with what is visually an insurmountable wall, the price has nonetheless stagnated -- we normally get a pop when we know it looks like there is a floor on the market.

Thing is, there was never anything to indicate that. On the first dump, the bids had been sitting there for days, then were immediately replaced at spread. This means they absolutely weren't fake, as shown by the second dump and subsequent refilling of the bids.... This guy is accumulating and has no interest in selling for pennies gain. He is trying to turn the market singlehandedly -- whether he will succeed, I don't know. But with Huobi's liquidity and volume, that would be the place to do it.

If he keeps this up, sellers will get exhausted. And important to note, the total lack of ask depth near spread in combination with the bid walls, means a lot of bears are caught out of position. And Huobi has margin too -- who knows how many of those sells into 3600 (and slightly below) were shorts?
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August 06, 2014, 04:22:03 AM

bitcoin is going to 5,000$ haters gana hate.

^ this <3
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August 06, 2014, 04:31:23 AM

I'm ready to see some walls like this.

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August 06, 2014, 05:05:13 AM

I'm ready to see some walls like this.

yeah, i wish. not at these prices. been a long time since i've seen a bid wall over 1000. Undecided

well, then there's this huobi guy, but price doesn't follow....
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August 06, 2014, 05:17:07 AM

So.... I sold a few dollars above this level. And I'm getting kinda nervous. How many people like me do you think there are, waiting to get back in? Cheesy
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I am very bearish in the near-term. A whale has pretty obviously set up a bid wall that is so substantial that it shouldn't be breached or tested in order to sell off his holdings in front of that wall at an artificially inflated price. However, even with that market manipulation, the wall was tested and broken leading the whale to establish a wall twice the size now. Moreover, even with what is visually an insurmountable wall, the price has nonetheless stagnated -- we normally get a pop when we know it looks like there is a floor on the market.

Thing is, there was never anything to indicate that. On the first dump, the bids had been sitting there for days, then were immediately replaced at spread. This means they absolutely weren't fake, as shown by the second dump and subsequent refilling of the bids.... This guy is accumulating and has no interest in selling for pennies gain. He is trying to turn the market singlehandedly -- whether he will succeed, I don't know. But with Huobi's liquidity and volume, that would be the place to do it.

If he keeps this up, sellers will get exhausted. And important to note, the total lack of ask depth near spread in combination with the bid walls, means a lot of bears are caught out of position. And Huobi has margin too -- who knows how many of those sells into 3600 (and slightly below) were shorts?

Interesting. My interpretation of the situation is almost the exact opposite just because by having the huge wall he is essentially increasing his cost of entry by holding the market up... the only person/entity that would have such an interest to do that would be an exchange. On the flip, you are right that the shorts are getting murdered right now waiting... also a lot of them probably abandoned ship because there is usually a bounce after a wall of that magnitude has been inserted. I guess what was more puzzling to me is the lack of volume, particularly upward volume, following placement of the wall. I mean, everything is in place to go up, but it seems like people aren't biting and that makes me wonder about their appraisal of the current value or near-term prospects.

I might be wrong though and your point is a very valid interpretation also.
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August 06, 2014, 05:28:13 AM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/11014508/George-Osborne-embraces-Bitcoin-as-London-aims-to-be-centre-of-global-financial-technology-revolution.html
http://www.scmp.com/business/banking-finance/article/1567534/britain-eyes-bitcoin-rivals-virtual-currency-rules
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2717471/OSBORNE-EXPLORES-BITCOIN-POTENTIAL.htm

Good or bad?
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BUy BUy BUy!!!  Grin
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