Bitcoin Forum
May 02, 2024, 08:41:11 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Poll
Question: What happens first:
New ATH - 43 (69.4%)
<$60,000 - 19 (30.6%)
Total Voters: 62

Pages: « 1 ... 9302 9303 9304 9305 9306 9307 9308 9309 9310 9311 9312 9313 9314 9315 9316 9317 9318 9319 9320 9321 9322 9323 9324 9325 9326 9327 9328 9329 9330 9331 9332 9333 9334 9335 9336 9337 9338 9339 9340 9341 9342 9343 9344 9345 9346 9347 9348 9349 9350 9351 [9352] 9353 9354 9355 9356 9357 9358 9359 9360 9361 9362 9363 9364 9365 9366 9367 9368 9369 9370 9371 9372 9373 9374 9375 9376 9377 9378 9379 9380 9381 9382 9383 9384 9385 9386 9387 9388 9389 9390 9391 9392 9393 9394 9395 9396 9397 9398 9399 9400 9401 9402 ... 33314 »
  Print  
Author Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion  (Read 26370756 times)
This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (174 posts by 3 users with 9 merit deleted.)
podyx
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2338
Merit: 1035



View Profile
October 31, 2014, 08:38:31 AM

Hashrate has skyrocketed
https://blockchain.info/sv/charts/hash-rate?timespan=30days&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=

Any reason why?
1714639271
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714639271

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714639271
Reply with quote  #2

1714639271
Report to moderator
1714639271
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714639271

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714639271
Reply with quote  #2

1714639271
Report to moderator
1714639271
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714639271

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714639271
Reply with quote  #2

1714639271
Report to moderator
It is a common myth that Bitcoin is ruled by a majority of miners. This is not true. Bitcoin miners "vote" on the ordering of transactions, but that's all they do. They can't vote to change the network rules.
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
cbeast
Donator
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1736
Merit: 1006

Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 08:43:06 AM

Because Bitcoin is dying, people are throwing more money into mining.
Erdogan
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1512
Merit: 1005



View Profile
October 31, 2014, 08:44:13 AM

Will there only ever be 21 million checks?

Will there be only one cryptocoin?
Will there ever be only one internet?

Ugh Jorge. I didn't know you responded to me but people will insist on quoting you driving me to respond to your idiocy.

Yes there is more than one cryptocoin.

I started one today with the exact same code as bitcoin but with one difference, it's called bitcoin2.

It has a network difficulty of 1 and is completely useless.

But yes let us pretend that network strength is not a factor. You've been "intellectually trolling" us here for a year or so, almost gaining hero status, but have failed to learn/acknowledge the most simple elements of what bitcoin is, what cryptocurrencies are, and what the relevant factors are in their utility and reliability.

The answer to Jorge is yes, for all practical purposes there will be only one cryptocoin, which is bitcoin.
DaRude
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2778
Merit: 1791


In order to dump coins one must have coins


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 08:45:44 AM


Huh  Huh i kept rereading this but it still makes no sense. Sarcasm?
cbeast
Donator
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1736
Merit: 1006

Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 08:46:55 AM


Huh  Huh i kept rereading this but it still makes no sense. Sarcasm?
It would be sarcasm if it wasn't true. Logic has nothing to do with it.
Newar
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1358
Merit: 1000


https://gliph.me/hUF


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 08:52:31 AM


~10 percent is now a "sky rocket" in bitcoin land? What happened while I was gone?  Tongue
Erdogan
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1512
Merit: 1005



View Profile
October 31, 2014, 08:55:40 AM

Will there only ever be 21 million checks?

Will there be only one cryptocoin?
Will there ever be only one internet?

This is really an interesting question. What is stopping the creation of Internet 2, Internet 3, and so on?

And yes, this question is really answering to the previous question, similar to the other thread on "Answering the question with another question".  Grin

Don't forget history. The Internet is the name of the current cluster of interconnected local nets based on the internet protocol. Before the Internet, there were a dozen networks, not called internets, but which had the same potential and aspiration of being global. Also, Gates wanted to make a distinct  internet built on the internet protocol, but that didn't work out. The current Internet grew organically among competing nets to be omnipotent. It will stay like that for the immediate future.

ChartBuddy
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2170
Merit: 1759


1CBuddyxy4FerT3hzMmi1Jz48ESzRw1ZzZ


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 09:00:31 AM


Explanation
fred1111
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 160
Merit: 101


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 09:01:22 AM

There were altnets, some of them obvious scams (Minitel), others were usefull for experimenting. They have pretty much all disapeared. Does this apply to cryptocurrencies. Maybe.
mooncake
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 434
Merit: 250


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 09:18:38 AM

There were altnets, some of them obvious scams (Minitel), others were usefull for experimenting. They have pretty much all disapeared. Does this apply to cryptocurrencies. Maybe.

Quote from: Erdogan
Don't forget history. The Internet is the name of the current cluster of interconnected local nets based on the internet protocol. Before the Internet, there were a dozen networks, not called internets, but which had the same potential and aspiration of being global. Also, Gates wanted to make a distinct  internet built on the internet protocol, but that didn't work out. The current Internet grew organically among competing nets to be omnipotent. It will stay like that for the immediate future.

Internet is the main network. All others are the local nets.

Bitcoin is the mainchain. All others are sidechain.

Very possible.
cbeast
Donator
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1736
Merit: 1006

Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 09:27:52 AM


according to KNC, the mining cost of bitcoin is significantly below $400, i think it's around $170 per coin and they are trying hard to mine more and dump more

KNC 3T miner at 1710 Watts: $5995 (of cause the cost of manufacture is under $3000)
mine 1 bitcoin: 3.412 week, Power Cost: $98
let's say you mine 50 bitcoins and stop mining, cost per coin: $158
I'm surprised a high capacity fab isn't manufacturing better ASICs yet.
janos666
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 588
Merit: 500


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 09:34:20 AM

I think China finally figured out what really have happened on Bitfinex and now everybody started to correct the effects of mistakes.
ChartBuddy
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2170
Merit: 1759


1CBuddyxy4FerT3hzMmi1Jz48ESzRw1ZzZ


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 10:00:30 AM


Explanation
BlindMayorBitcorn
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1260
Merit: 1115



View Profile
October 31, 2014, 10:14:08 AM

Good bids @Bitfinex = ppl want to close shorts ASAP ?  Grin


 Total sum of active swaps   11,784.20 BTC


ehh, that´s not so good, it means that all buys(or a lot of them) in fact were actually shorts that have been closed...
We had about 18000+ before

So, some impatient traders closed their shorts on Bitfinex via rapid market buys rather than slow fishing?

I am really mad at them because they triggered my stop order just a few minutes before I could move the stop price lower as I planned. And now I need to figure out my next move instead of simply waiting for a dump party or to get "stopped" by a real rally. I think it could have been better for all of us if this didn't happen the way it did.


Aaaw you poor trader losing money. I feel so bad for you guys. It just isn't fair is it?

My loss was imaginary. My short was opened earlier. I just planned to close it even lower... So no...
I think it was bad because this kind of price pump won't have a lasting effect. So, people get over-exited about a trend reversal again but get a dump in their face.
1: The one whole closed the big shorts could have earned more
2: I could have earned more
3: overall for BTC: this was a fake pump but that short won't be there as a buffer during the next real dump
But I say that because I don't think it was an intentional price manipulation. However, it can be the case.

So this is what it feels like to be short squeezed. Sorry. But: HA!
CMMPro
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 588
Merit: 500



View Profile
October 31, 2014, 10:15:48 AM


according to KNC, the mining cost of bitcoin is significantly below $400, i think it's around $170 per coin and they are trying hard to mine more and dump more

KNC 3T miner at 1710 Watts: $5995 (of cause the cost of manufacture is under $3000)
mine 1 bitcoin: 3.412 week, Power Cost: $98
let's say you mine 50 bitcoins and stop mining, cost per coin: $158

Except mining 50 bitcoins with that device would take 170 weeks (or about 3 years) at the current difficulty...and we all know the difficulty won't go up for the next 3 years right?

Idiotic....the mining cost of a single bitcoin is far beyond the btc/usd exchange price right now.

marcus_of_augustus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3920
Merit: 2348


Eadem mutata resurgo


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 10:25:46 AM


according to KNC, the mining cost of bitcoin is significantly below $400, i think it's around $170 per coin and they are trying hard to mine more and dump more

KNC 3T miner at 1710 Watts: $5995 (of cause the cost of manufacture is under $3000)
mine 1 bitcoin: 3.412 week, Power Cost: $98
let's say you mine 50 bitcoins and stop mining, cost per coin: $158

Except mining 50 bitcoins with that device would take 170 weeks (or about 3 years) at the current difficulty...and we all know the difficulty won't go up for the next 3 years right?

Idiotic....the mining cost of a single bitcoin is far beyond the btc/usd exchange price right now.



I agree, hashrate increases have slowed significantly and may even stop shortly which is a huge tell that we are very near cost of production, if not already below. The last time this happened marked the long term bottom.

Forward sales of mined coins may have even artificially depressed prices 'ahead' of schedule by bringing inflationary effects forward in time. At a price point lower than the forward sale though the hedged miners switch from natural shorts to floor-setting determined buyers, as they can make guaranteed profits buying at market and selling at their hedged price.
NotLambchop
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 378
Merit: 254


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 10:41:39 AM

What up, bitches Good morning, gentlemen!

ShroomsKit
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 672
Merit: 500



View Profile
October 31, 2014, 10:41:54 AM

400 dollars by morning?

Wink

Obviously it will be nothing but dumps the coming 12 hours till we're back at 330.

We're getting there. Well done traders, as always.
Now you can continue with the daily posts wondering why we just won't go up.
Malin Keshar
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 616
Merit: 500


View Profile
October 31, 2014, 10:54:52 AM

400 dollars by morning?

Wink

Obviously it will be nothing but dumps the coming 12 hours till we're back at 330.

We're getting there. Well done traders, as always.
Now you can continue with the daily posts wondering why we just won't go up.

At the moment I'm wondering why  we  don't just go down
ShroomsKit
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 672
Merit: 500



View Profile
October 31, 2014, 10:56:55 AM

400 dollars by morning?

Wink

Obviously it will be nothing but dumps the coming 12 hours till we're back at 330.

We're getting there. Well done traders, as always.
Now you can continue with the daily posts wondering why we just won't go up.

At the moment I'm wondering why  we  don't just go down

And why would that be?
Pages: « 1 ... 9302 9303 9304 9305 9306 9307 9308 9309 9310 9311 9312 9313 9314 9315 9316 9317 9318 9319 9320 9321 9322 9323 9324 9325 9326 9327 9328 9329 9330 9331 9332 9333 9334 9335 9336 9337 9338 9339 9340 9341 9342 9343 9344 9345 9346 9347 9348 9349 9350 9351 [9352] 9353 9354 9355 9356 9357 9358 9359 9360 9361 9362 9363 9364 9365 9366 9367 9368 9369 9370 9371 9372 9373 9374 9375 9376 9377 9378 9379 9380 9381 9382 9383 9384 9385 9386 9387 9388 9389 9390 9391 9392 9393 9394 9395 9396 9397 9398 9399 9400 9401 9402 ... 33314 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!