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March 04, 2015, 09:04:39 PM

I have the feeling this is nothing but a bear trap. Resistance is futile... up we go again.
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March 04, 2015, 09:06:38 PM

so much for retardedly stable prices

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March 04, 2015, 09:07:51 PM

pretty sure OKCoin forced long liquidations pushed us down pretty hard right now. We are right at the 1680 support line on huobi.
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March 04, 2015, 09:08:09 PM

I have the feeling this is nothing but a bear trap. Resistance is futile... up we go again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyenRCJ_4Ww
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March 04, 2015, 09:10:29 PM

so much for retardedly stable prices

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March 04, 2015, 09:11:46 PM

Okay Beartrolls, now's your time to shine.  You can come out of hiding and tell us how much you love Bitcoin!   Grin
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March 04, 2015, 09:13:12 PM

Fortress Investment bought some number of bitcoins directly in 2013.  Bitcoin was the only red stain in their 2014 quarterly reports.  Fortress quicky got rid of their bitcoins, swapping them for equity in the Pantera subsidiary that runs the PBP bitcoin fund. (Note: not shares of the fund, but shares of the managing company).
While I see articles noting that Fortress rolled their $20m bitcoin stake into Pantera, their latest 10K indicates they still seem to own bitcoin directly, and it traces back to the $20m original investment in 2013.

Go to link below and search for bitcoin, and you will see the $20m investment in 2012, the year end 2013 value of $16.298m, and year-end 2014 value of $6.828m, a 58% decline, which is consistent with the market decline from 12/31/13 to 12/31/14.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1380393/000138039315000003/fig-20141231x10k.htm

Thanks for the link!  

Indeed, those amounts match 6828 k /  ~315 and 16298 k /  ~725 are approximately equal to 22'000 BTC.

You saw those articles too, so I was not dreaming.  Perhaps the deal got sour after it was announced?  Or perhaps Fortress actually swapped the raw BTC for PBP fund shares, not for Pantera equity; which, being pegged to BTC, are counted as BTC for the purposes of the report?
   
EDIT: since they spent 20 M$ on those coins, they must have bought when the price was ~910 $/BTC, i.e. around 2013-11-26 --- only 3 days before the peak. (They could have bought in early or mid Dec/2013, near the peak of the first reboud; but that seems rather unlikely.)  It is comforting to know that big whales make mistakes too...
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March 04, 2015, 09:14:50 PM

Okay Beartrolls, now's your time to shine.  You can come out of hiding and tell us how much you love Bitcoin!   Grin

*cough*  timestamp

Have this nagging feeling I'll soon be seeing many "Bitcoin value has nothing to do with exchange price" & "It's not about profits, it's about mah freedomz" posts.

Not sure why, just a hunch Wink
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March 04, 2015, 09:15:17 PM

Finex still looking pretty healthy... back to $280 within 2 hours is my bet.
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March 04, 2015, 09:16:29 PM

Okay Beartrolls, now's your time to shine.  You can come out of hiding and tell us how much you love Bitcoin!   Grin

Lamb is posting regardless of the price bumps n dumps. Same ponies and Wile E Coyote gifs and stuff like that. I still have him on ignore (together with ALL his other accounts - he added one just today) and I can predict easily what he's posting. Pathetically relentless piece of Chop.  
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March 04, 2015, 09:16:53 PM

wow that dipped a lot more than expected! scary shit right there. Still say we recover.
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March 04, 2015, 09:16:57 PM

the bull seems pissed off.  Lips sealed
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March 04, 2015, 09:17:25 PM

Thnx for the cheap coins NLC Cheesy
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March 04, 2015, 09:17:57 PM

the bull seems pissed off.  Lips sealed
Damn... exciting times!!! Grin
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March 04, 2015, 09:19:22 PM

the bull seems pissed off.  Lips sealed

noone's taking him seriously yet ... time to get mean?
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March 04, 2015, 09:19:25 PM

Support held at 267, now it is going back up.  
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March 04, 2015, 09:21:56 PM

Gooooooooooooooooood evening bulltards gentlemen!
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March 04, 2015, 09:22:27 PM

wow that dipped a lot more than expected! scary shit right there. Still say we recover.

Still, you called that pretty good.
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March 04, 2015, 09:23:17 PM

1.5k to 280
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March 04, 2015, 09:28:44 PM

Now for those who said I was exaggerating gentleman, there you go pulling back to .618

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