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[Fatman3001]

Gavin Andresen is on the latest Epicentre Bitcoin podcast with Brian Fabian Crain & Sébastien Couture talking about The Blocksize And Bitcoin's Governance. Well worth listening to regardless of your beliefs and views on what should be done. The guy is clearly intelligent, balanced and knowledgeable. He also comments on the sheer difficulty of trying to get any changes implemented with the current impasse.

Very glad I listened to this.

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/epicenter-bitcoin-94-gavin-andresen-on-the-blocksize-and-bitcoins-governance

Thx, good link

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[Fatman3001]

lol people are so impressionable, with always this eager to blindly follow sum dude..

FYI, just to make things clear:

 Bitcoin doesn't need governance: Bitcoin is governance.

conclusion: nice try but fork you Gavin!

Sure, "Be the tree" !

[RenegadeMan]

Gavin Andresen is on the latest Epicentre Bitcoin podcast with Brian Fabian Crain & Sébastien Couture talking about The Blocksize And Bitcoin's Governance. Well worth listening to regardless of your beliefs and views on what should be done. The guy is clearly intelligent, balanced and knowledgeable. He also comments on the sheer difficulty of trying to get any changes implemented with the current impasse.

Very glad I listened to this.

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/epicenter-bitcoin-94-gavin-andresen-on-the-blocksize-and-bitcoins-governance

lol people are so impressionable, with always this eager to blindly follow sum dude..

FYI, just to make things clear:

 Bitcoin doesn't need governance: Bitcoin is governance.

conclusion: nice try but fork you Gavin!

I'm as dubious as the next person as to people's intentions with this stuff.

I've already challenged billyjoelallen for what I think is rhetoric each time he signs off a post with "scale or die".

I think there's an inordinate amount of black and white thinking going on with these changes to Bitcoin. And responses like yours are also unhelpful as they're overly dismissive and just add to the dissension.

Did you listen to this podcast?

There's genuine concern and care being expressed by Gavin. There may be some over-reach too. And maybe he's gone too far....or maybe not. And I reject your assertion that I'm impressionable and am going to "blindly follow some dude". You know nothing about me, my life experience, skills and knowledge so it's completely and utterly banal of you in the extreme, to make such an assessment.

Either way to just write him off with "fork you Gavin!" summation is hardly fair, decent or helpful.

Perhaps you could consider debating key parts of what you consider to be wrong with his ideas rather than just putting up a blanket "I just don't like it...." wall.

[brg444]

Gavin Andresen is on the latest Epicentre Bitcoin podcast with Brian Fabian Crain & Sébastien Couture talking about The Blocksize And Bitcoin's Governance. Well worth listening to regardless of your beliefs and views on what should be done. The guy is clearly intelligent, balanced and knowledgeable. He also comments on the sheer difficulty of trying to get any changes implemented with the current impasse.

Very glad I listened to this.

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/epicenter-bitcoin-94-gavin-andresen-on-the-blocksize-and-bitcoins-governance

lol people are so impressionable, with always this eager to blindly follow sum dude..

FYI, just to make things clear:

 Bitcoin doesn't need governance: Bitcoin is governance.

conclusion: nice try but fork you Gavin!

I'm as dubious as the next person as to people's intentions with this stuff.

I've already challenged billyjoelallen for what I think is rhetoric each time he signs off a post with "scale or die".

I think there's an inordinate amount of black and white thinking going on with these changes to Bitcoin. And responses like yours are also unhelpful as they're overly dismissive and just add to the dissension.

Did you listen to this podcast?

There's genuine concern and care being expressed by Gavin. There may be some over-reach too. And maybe he's gone too far....or maybe not. And I reject your assertion that I'm impressionable and am going to "blindly follow some dude". You know nothing about me, my life experience, skills and knowledge so it's completely and utterly banal of you in the extreme, to make such an assessment.

Either way to just write him off with "fork you Gavin!" summation is hardly fair, decent or helpful.

Perhaps you could consider debating key parts of what you consider to be wrong with his ideas rather than just putting up a blanket "I just don't like it...." wall.

Here is what's wrong and what should be obvious to anyone with an once of discernment: this is an all too obvious attempt to "teach the controversy"

"It is not about the block size but this is an issue of Bitcoin governance"

Teaching the controversy is a typical psyop/propaganda tool that amounts to creating an appearance of reasonable debate between informed persons on a given subject. This has for effect of giving credibility to a lie by confusing people into thinking there are two legitimate claims being debated. Here the debate being pushed on us is that Bitcoin governance is somehow subject to be changed.

[oxiyusuf]

ukraine true that would legalize bitcoin? This seems to be an effect on the market

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[edgar]

I'm really neutral in which way I want the market to go. I'm still over 90% long, but I want the cripplecoiners to get the message that coins on a throttled network are not as valuable.

Retail is not buying in.

Why are you so excited about scaling transactions for retail demand that doesn't exist?

fanatics need SOMEthing to get themselves worked up about.

[fairglu]

ukraine true that would legalize bitcoin? This seems to be an effect on the market

You mean http://cointelegraph.com/news/115203/ukraine-may-soon-legalize-bitcoin ? Misleading title.
It looks more like a rumor of a possibility of an hearsay, basically some officials got a presentation by an enthusiast and found it interesting (or did not reject it outright at least)

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[gentlemand]

ukraine true that would legalize bitcoin? This seems to be an effect on the market

Implement is a more relevant term than legalise. It's 'legal' almost everywhere.

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[Torque]

Every global stock and commodity is gapping down, bitcoin slightly rising.

Bullish.

[TReano]

Every global stock and commodity is gapping down, bitcoin slightly rising.

Bullish.

have you every look at a graph ?

Bitcoin is far far far far away from slightly rising...

[Torque]

Every global stock and commodity is gapping down, bitcoin slightly rising.

Bullish.

have you every look at a graph ?

Bitcoin is far far far far away from slightly rising...

Yep I have.  Hashrate continuing to climb steadily as well.

Double bullish.

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[isvicre]

ukraine true that would legalize bitcoin? This seems to be an effect on the market

Implement is a more relevant term than legalise. It's 'legal' almost everywhere.

It would be better if we say this: It's not illegal almost everywhere.