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September 03, 2015, 05:35:56 PM

So Bitstamp is now also faking volume?

What's your evidence?  Is this pure FUD spreading disinformation?



lets fud the market like its 1999 ..
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September 03, 2015, 05:51:42 PM

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September 03, 2015, 05:55:40 PM

So Bitstamp is now also faking volume?
They don't need to fake anything.They are the new biggest western exchange thanks to Bitfinex's gross incompetence.
Speaking of Bitfinex, I received an e-mail from them:

Dear user: [Redacted]

After careful review of the trading activity in your account in and around our service disruption on August 25th, 2015, we have identified a discrepancy between your trade history and how those trades were booked to your account.  In most cases the discrepancy is a result of trades being double booked to your account.  In order to bring your account balance inline with your trade history, we need to put two adjusting entries to reflect a change of -xx.xxx BTC at an average price of 224.38.  Unfortunately, this adjustment will result an a negative currency in your trading wallet.  Please move funds between wallets or deposit additional to satisfy this adjustment.  If the negative balance still persist in 24 hours, we will make the adjustment ourselves to eliminate the negative balance.  We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience and will be additionally crediting back your trading fees during the affected period 15:00:00 UTC to 21:00:00 UTC.  Please do not hesitate to contact us with any questions.


After I got all my funds out from them, now they want me to move them back in to fix a negative balance issue in my trade balance?
For a second time??? (I already had negative balance before I left them witch got "resolved" by deducting said negative balance from my btc deposit).Still waiting for their mail to clarify wtf is going on over there.  
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September 03, 2015, 05:59:24 PM

So Bitstamp is now also faking volume?

What's your evidence?  Is this pure FUD spreading disinformation?



lets fud the market like its 1999 ..

No idea if FUD or not (probably), but it is intersting to note that Stamp is doing more volume on this sideways move than BFX. I can think of 2 legitimate reasons

1) BFX did not go with BitLicense, Stamp did - perhaps that appeals to some, or is necessary if they are NY based
2) OKCoin not accepting US customers at the moment - perhaps some have moved to Stamp (possibly connected to the above)

Not ready to call foul at all yet, but I have noticed the change and am wondering why ...

EDIT: 3) Recent and ongoing problems with BFX trading engine is another good reason why some may have switched
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September 03, 2015, 06:23:04 PM

bitfinex longs are climbing real good now .. we're not messing around anymore.. nothing can stop us now!

Buying now is risky. Buying now using leverage is insane. Barring small liquidity spikes, we're not going up until the block size thing is resolved months from now if ever. These longs have no money behind them or they wouldn't have to use leverage and pay the vig. What's worse, not nearly enough shorts to halt another flash crash when they cover. It's not looking good.
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September 03, 2015, 06:23:26 PM

So Bitstamp is now also faking volume?
They don't need to fake anything.They are the new biggest western exchange thanks to Bitfinex's gross incompetence.
Speaking of Bitfinex, I received an e-mail from them:

Dear user: [Redacted]

After careful review of the trading activity in your account in and around our service disruption on August 25th, 2015, we have identified a discrepancy between your trade history and how those trades were booked to your account.  In most cases the discrepancy is a result of trades being double booked to your account.  In order to bring your account balance inline with your trade history, we need to put two adjusting entries to reflect a change of -xx.xxx BTC at an average price of 224.38.  Unfortunately, this adjustment will result an a negative currency in your trading wallet.  Please move funds between wallets or deposit additional to satisfy this adjustment.  If the negative balance still persist in 24 hours, we will make the adjustment ourselves to eliminate the negative balance.  We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience and will be additionally crediting back your trading fees during the affected period 15:00:00 UTC to 21:00:00 UTC.  Please do not hesitate to contact us with any questions.


After I got all my funds out from them, now they want me to move them back in to fix a negative balance issue in my trade balance?
For a second time??? (I already had negative balance before I left them witch got "resolved" by deducting said negative balance from my btc deposit).Still waiting for their mail to clarify wtf is going on over there.  

Let them keep their negative balance and move on  Cheesy
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September 03, 2015, 06:27:04 PM

So what's this weeks high going to be $229.50? Or should we shoot for the moon and predict $230.25. lol
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well we just saw some strong volume on the hourly, things might get interesting and we might be pushing 235 pretty soon! or 225 again  Sad

For about the last hour I have been watching a baby wall of about 150 BTC get eaten down on BTCe to around 100BTC at $222.50. 

BTCe has had pretty consistent and relatively high volume for the past 12 hours.... what is brewing in Bitcoinlandia?  anyone know?
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Let them keep their negative balance and move on  Cheesy

What's really scary is that they still hold $23.6 mil in active long positions. Wonder for how long though..
I mean BTC-e has bigger volume than them right now, FFS.

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September 03, 2015, 06:38:17 PM

So Bitstamp is now also faking volume?
They don't need to fake anything.They are the new biggest western exchange thanks to Bitfinex's gross incompetence.
Speaking of Bitfinex, I received an e-mail from them:

Dear user: [Redacted]

After careful review of the trading activity in your account in and around our service disruption on August 25th, 2015, we have identified a discrepancy between your trade history and how those trades were booked to your account.  In most cases the discrepancy is a result of trades being double booked to your account.  In order to bring your account balance inline with your trade history, we need to put two adjusting entries to reflect a change of -xx.xxx BTC at an average price of 224.38.  Unfortunately, this adjustment will result an a negative currency in your trading wallet.  Please move funds between wallets or deposit additional to satisfy this adjustment.  If the negative balance still persist in 24 hours, we will make the adjustment ourselves to eliminate the negative balance.  We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience and will be additionally crediting back your trading fees during the affected period 15:00:00 UTC to 21:00:00 UTC.  Please do not hesitate to contact us with any questions.


After I got all my funds out from them, now they want me to move them back in to fix a negative balance issue in my trade balance?
For a second time??? (I already had negative balance before I left them witch got "resolved" by deducting said negative balance from my btc deposit).Still waiting for their mail to clarify wtf is going on over there.  


someone mentioned that on redit too: https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/3jg6kr/daily_discussion_thursday_september_03_2015/

i hate to point out the obvious...but... if your code didnt have glitches then you wouldnt need to send emails out to adjust peoples accounts like that. reading about this makes me believe we have an insolvent exchange problem on our hands. just saying .
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September 03, 2015, 06:42:03 PM

The consensus seems to be that this is bull, and not the real Satoshi.

Where can I find more about this consensus?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1153748.0


Thanks, but what a bunch of morons in that thread.
I only read retarded opinions which prove nothing.

Why would satoshi prove himself to be real for a bunch of idiots? I would do exactly the same if I was Satoshi, including not spending my coins... Again this system (bitcoin) is worth below zero it only functions with him.
Just like kids. You can't keep raising them after adulthood. You need to let it go.
Knowing this, there is no other benefit for him to sign a message other than satisfying his ego and become a very famous man again, a man who would be even more unable to distance himself from bitcoin again.


Don't really disagree that much with what you say, just wonder why he would break silence at all with such an unconvincing message. Especially now that we see that it hasn't united the community. Why not join the conversation? At the very least we wouldn't have to deal with the endless "that's not what Satoshi intended"-discussions.

To be honest I would prefer it if there were no legendary "Satoshi Nakamoto" and that we had a face to the name instead. All this hallelujah crap is getting in the way.
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September 03, 2015, 06:43:23 PM

So Bitstamp is now also faking volume?

What's your evidence?  Is this pure FUD spreading disinformation?

Haven't you noticed the 49.99 buy and sell for weeks now? Obviously irrational trading which points to it being an inhouse bot run at stamp to pump up volume. Why shouldn't they do it? The chinese exchanges have been doing it for years.
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September 03, 2015, 06:43:25 PM

bitfinex longs are climbing real good now .. we're not messing around anymore.. nothing can stop us now!

Buying now is risky. Buying now using leverage is insane. Barring small liquidity spikes, we're not going up until the block size thing is resolved months from now if ever. These longs have no money behind them or they wouldn't have to use leverage and pay the vig. What's worse, not nearly enough shorts to halt another flash crash when they cover. It's not looking good.


sounds about right.. i don't know anything though about how shorts stop a flash crash if longs cover. however, more rumors coming from BFX is obviously not good. as long as there are strange things going on at BFX i wont be chasing the price buying into any pumps.
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September 03, 2015, 07:18:45 PM

So Bitstamp is now also faking volume?

What's your evidence?  Is this pure FUD spreading disinformation?

Haven't you noticed the 49.99 buy and sell for weeks now? Obviously irrational trading which points to it being an inhouse bot run at stamp to pump up volume. Why shouldn't they do it? The chinese exchanges have been doing it for years.

I guess that I do NOT follow that closely.

Can you explain a little more about how the 49.99 works?

Is the 49.99 on the books?   Are you referring to dollar value or bitcoins? 

how often is the 49.99 trading?  Where can you see this play out? 

There can also be bots that are run outside (so a bot does NOT have to be an inside job).  Accordingly, what would be your evidence that this particular bot (or trading pattern) is based on inside manipulation?

I do understand the motive to some extent but getting caught remains a very big blow to credibility, so I doubt that a big exchange like bitstamp that is rising in credibility would want to jeopardize its credibility based in a way in which they could fairly easily get caught.

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September 03, 2015, 07:58:02 PM

It's easy to understand why some end up jumping from the roof of a building to end their miserable life.
Can't blame them, the sooner they decide to end their parasitic life here the less the pain.

Don't be afraid my friend, kill yourself to end the suffering!
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It's easy to understand why some end up jumping from the roof of a building to end their miserable life.
Can't blame them, the sooner they decide to end their parasitic life here the less the pain.

Don't be afraid my friend, kill yourself to end the suffering!

Friend, had I blown real money on BTCeanie BTCabies worthless digital tokens, I would have died of embarrassment by now.

But you clearly don't embarrass that easily, so give it a shot Smiley



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It's easy to understand why some end up jumping from the roof of a building to end their miserable life.
Can't blame them, the sooner they decide to end their parasitic life here the less the pain.

Don't be afraid my friend, kill yourself to end the suffering!

Friend, had I blown real money on BTCeanie BTCabies worthless digital tokens, I would have died of embarrassment by now.

But you clearly don't embarrass that easily, so give it a shot Smiley



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So trolls, any good investment suggestion? Any shitcoin? Any shitasset? Or stay in cash?
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