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Mr. Ram Off Deutsche Bank says:

“As far as bitcoin as a future currency, I’m not sure whether universal adoption is a sure thing. The public seem most interested in the digitalization and convenience of new faster payment methods more than a change in the currency itself.”

I'm generally ok with the speed of payment. I truly take issue with some properties of the Fiat money, though. Especially with the fact that banks can lend it into existence out of thin air. I can see why someone from a bank would downplay the fact that I am probably not alone.

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[JayJuanGee]

Yeah, right.. we should listen to you.. and your various broken record assertions.. ?..

LOL ... the real trolls are people who have intellectual breakdowns in public forums over their bitcoins that have to resort to random name calling and general downing of people like you do jaungee... you are too emotional over your investment.. you should get out now before you hurt yourself....................

Wow. You, Mr. Aztec are grasping at straws to make things up, which is a sign of your desperation to attempt to divert any conversation away from substance to either 1) pump your various simple and narrow stupid ass talking points (which include purposeful attempts to denigrate Bitcoin - maybe sporadically Moreso when you are talking your book) or 2) engage in nonsubstantiated personal attacks.

As I have stated in a large number of my posts, since this past October, I have begun to trade btc. Before that time for nearly two years, I was largely buying and accumulating Bitcoin while incorporating a kind of hybrid dollar cost averaging approach with available (not leveraging anything) funds in my regular cash flow.

Therefore, currently because of my various trading tactics and the quite volatile price movements since October,  I have been able to accumulate a large number of orders stacked up and down the Bitcoin price.

 Surely in the long run, I do better if Bitcoin prices go up because I have invested in Bitcoin, but I also have not invested more than I can lose.

Furthermore, I consider my Bitcoin holdings, investment, readings and repositioning  to be a hedge against some of my other non Bitcoin investments.

You have no real idea exactly what are my Bitcoin holdings in comparison to my various other nonbitcoin holdings, so you are merely making shit up when you make some superficial conclusory assertion regarding my relationship to Bitcoin and it's likely ongoing volatile prices.

I believe that I have a fairly logical and balanced approach to my Bitcoin holdings that cause me not to be over invested in Bitcoin in any meaningful way, even though in recent years, I have invested a lot of time and energy to research into Bitcoin and to employ and practice several Bitcoin related investment strategies.

I believe that because of my recent trading of btc, since October, my total Bitcoin holdings are in a much better financial position to advantage from btc  prices going in either direction- at least for the short term.

Tldr:   In other words, you, Mr Aztec, if you are worthy of any such deference, are again just blowing shit out of your ass with your unsubstantiated personal attacks - and there's no real substance to much of anything you assert beyond a few of your conclusory, non substantiated and frequently illogical talking points, whether related to Bitcoin or some other off topic point that you want to spin. 

[JayJuanGee]

So, if you want to call it trash talk, so be it, but my posts do not really arise to that level because they are mostly about substance or getting someone to back up a point that they made, including you, which you will not do, and instead you just divert by engaging in various ad hominems and trying to point fingers rather than providing some meat to your assertions.

why would i engage someone in an intellectual convo about bitcoin when u are going to get emotional over ur investemnt and start name calling and general downing of people.. you do the same thing to billyjoe.. its not us who are the problem juangee ... the fact your brain cannot handle is that: BITCOIN STILL CANNOT SCALE TODAY!.. get mad about it.

You don't want to engage because you have no substance beyond your seeming desire to spread FUD and to clog the Bitcoin talk channels with you nattering nabobs of negativism that are in essence chicken little in nature.

. Yes, you and BJA seem to share some of the same repetitious fear mongering talking points - to exaggerate and to repeat ad nauseum

[aztecminer]

Yeah, right.. we should listen to you.. and your various broken record assertions.. ?..

LOL ... the real trolls are people who have intellectual breakdowns in public forums over their bitcoins that have to resort to random name calling and general downing of people like you do jaungee... you are too emotional over your investment.. you should get out now before you hurt yourself....................

Wow. You, Mr. Aztec are grasping at straws to make things up, which is a sign of your desperation to attempt to divert any conversation away from substance to either 1) pump your various simple and narrow stupid ass talking points (which include purposeful attempts to denigrate Bitcoin - maybe sporadically Moreso when you are talking your book) or 2) engage in nonsubstantiated personal attacks.

As I have stated in a large number of my posts, since this past October, I have begun to trade btc. Before that time for nearly two years, I was largely buying and accumulating Bitcoin while incorporating a kind of hybrid dollar cost averaging approach with available (not leveraging anything) funds in my regular cash flow.

Therefore, currently because of my various trading tactics and the quite volatile price movements since October,  I have been able to accumulate a large number of orders stacked up and down the Bitcoin price.

 Surely in the long run, I do better if Bitcoin prices go up because I have invested in Bitcoin, but I also have not invested more than I can lose.

Furthermore, I consider my Bitcoin holdings, investment, readings and repositioning  to be a hedge against some of my other non Bitcoin investments.

You have no real idea exactly what are my Bitcoin holdings in comparison to my various other nonbitcoin holdings, so you are merely making shit up when you make some superficial conclusory assertion regarding my relationship to Bitcoin and it's likely ongoing volatile prices.

I believe that I have a fairly logical and balanced approach to my Bitcoin holdings that cause me not to be over invested in Bitcoin in any meaningful way, even though in recent years, I have invested a lot of time and energy to research into Bitcoin and to employ and practice several Bitcoin related investment strategies.

I believe that because of my recent trading of btc, since October, my total Bitcoin holdings are in a much better financial position to advantage from btc  prices going in either direction- at least for the short term.

Tldr:   In other words, you, Mr Aztec, if you are worthy of any such deference, are again just blowing shit out of your ass with your unsubstantiated personal attacks - and there's no real substance to much of anything you assert beyond a few of your conclusory, non substantiated and frequently illogical talking points, whether related to Bitcoin or some other off topic point that you want to spin. 

juangee .. "i dont care what none of ya are... blablablabla.... " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO_3Qgib6RQ   .............. same point as yesterday, the day before yesterday, and every day for the last EIGHT MONTHS: bitcoin doesn't scale, until it scales, it still doesnt scale.............. get mad and write some more paragraphs... "blablablabla" ...

[blunderer]

^^aztecminer, whenever my cat demands I engage him intellectuæley, I make a little scratching noise with my fingernails that sounds just like a mouse to him. He goes nuts!
Just spitballin' here...

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[BlindMayorBitcorn]

I don't think so. I doubt he would approve of subversive altcoin garbage like "Classic" and the chumps behind it.

 ... as you and your shills sell out bitcoin to the very people it was conceived to bypass.  And not even as an altcoin implementation - but bitcoin itself.

Look at what you have done:

The only sneaky shills around here are people like you trying to undermine bitcoin with your garbage alt coin promotion. But, try as you like (and you certainly do), you will fail utterly and fortunately.

luckily for all of us we have BitcoinPure about to purify bitcoin network with a fork of 12M blocks soon.

February 5th. Thank God for the rain which has helped wash away the garbage and trash off the sidewalks. ... Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets.

[nioc]

already topping here?

Well it's not going over 400.

for now...

When I first read TReano's post I was going to respond by asking what time frame he was talking about.  Given his prior postings I assumed he was talking short term and therefore although not explicitly stated my answer is for the short term.

I agree with your response of, for now...

Even before the recent, is it still recent  ?, scaling debate there was enough uncertainty in my mind, for many reasons,  that I had/have no idea when btc will resume it's seemingly inevitable climb.

[WeltMaster]

Can someone eat that bitstamp wall pls

[blunderer]

OT but funny: http://www.dailydot.com/politics/dogecoin-moolah-alex-green-ryan-kennedy-rape-accusation/

[Mrpumperitis]

http://www.coindesk.com/private-satoshi-roundtable-bitcoin-exec-scaling-debate/

sounds like a bilderberg meeting,lol

[Spaceman_Spiff]

I'm generally ok with the speed of payment. I truly take issue with some properties of the Fiat money, though. Especially with the fact that banks can lend it into existence out of thin air. I can see why someone from a bank would downplay the fact that I am probably not alone.

I don't think of it so much as that they can create it out of thin air.  Rather, the deposits you hold at a bank are not real money, but a mix of loans, stock investments etc., with a small bit of cash reserves so they can pay out the few people who want some cash at any given time.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Mr. Ram Off Deutsche Bank says:

“As far as bitcoin as a future currency, I’m not sure whether universal adoption is a sure thing. The public seem most interested in the digitalization and convenience of new faster payment methods more than a change in the currency itself.”

I'm generally ok with the speed of payment. I truly take issue with some properties of the Fiat money, though. Especially with the fact that banks can lend it into existence out of thin air. I can see why someone from a bank would downplay the fact that I am probably not alone.

Fiat bank plays down the potential success of bitcoin. I wonder if he has a reason for doing that

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[aztecminer]

http://www.coindesk.com/private-satoshi-roundtable-bitcoin-exec-scaling-debate/

sounds like a bilderberg meeting,lol

yep.. i wasnt supposed say anything but since u mentioned it.... i will be there too... i will be speaking about how " bitcoin does not scale, and that until it does scale, it still doesnt scale " .. and then i will roll out the BitcoinPure fork of mega-chains of 12M blocks ready for Golden Week of Chinese Bears..................... assuming everyone at the Satoshi Round Table is on board with the plan ... if we have consensus, then right as we fork the network we will have Coinbase, in conjunction with BFX and the chinese exchanges PUMP the lightneing chain forks of the secret bitcoins we are going to release ... at that point we will be able to collect more fees since we will have multiple lightening forks of bitcoins and mega-chains of 12M blocks ...

phase two will then be happen: we will have billyjoe raid all five lightning forks of mega-blocks with the #FourPunchRaiders to cause massive volatility to attract newb traders to the ligthening forks during the Golden Week of Chinese Bears . once we have all this in place, finally, we will .. all of us .. buy boats and rule the world from right here from 'wall of observer thread' of bitcoin forum. everyone except juangee ... we are going to 'blockchain blacklist' him during the purification ... lol..... its going to be exciting times for all ye landlubbin HODLERS!!

[JayJuanGee]

Wow. You, Mr. Aztec are grasping at straws to make things up, which is a sign of your desperation to attempt to divert any conversation away from substance to either 1) pump your various simple and narrow stupid ass talking points (which include purposeful attempts to denigrate Bitcoin - maybe sporadically Moreso when you are talking your book) or 2) engage in nonsubstantiated personal attacks.

As I have stated in a large number of my posts, since this past October, I have begun to trade btc. Before that time for nearly two years, I was largely buying and accumulating Bitcoin while incorporating a kind of hybrid dollar cost averaging approach with available (not leveraging anything) funds in my regular cash flow.

Therefore, currently because of my various trading tactics and the quite volatile price movements since October,  I have been able to accumulate a large number of orders stacked up and down the Bitcoin price.

 Surely in the long run, I do better if Bitcoin prices go up because I have invested in Bitcoin, but I also have not invested more than I can lose.

Furthermore, I consider my Bitcoin holdings, investment, readings and repositioning  to be a hedge against some of my other non Bitcoin investments.

You have no real idea exactly what are my Bitcoin holdings in comparison to my various other nonbitcoin holdings, so you are merely making shit up when you make some superficial conclusory assertion regarding my relationship to Bitcoin and it's likely ongoing volatile prices.

I believe that I have a fairly logical and balanced approach to my Bitcoin holdings that cause me not to be over invested in Bitcoin in any meaningful way, even though in recent years, I have invested a lot of time and energy to research into Bitcoin and to employ and practice several Bitcoin related investment strategies.

I believe that because of my recent trading of btc, since October, my total Bitcoin holdings are in a much better financial position to advantage from btc  prices going in either direction- at least for the short term.

Tldr:   In other words, you, Mr Aztec, if you are worthy of any such deference, are again just blowing shit out of your ass with your unsubstantiated personal attacks - and there's no real substance to much of anything you assert beyond a few of your conclusory, non substantiated and frequently illogical talking points, whether related to Bitcoin or some other off topic point that you want to spin. 

juangee .. "i dont care what none of ya are... blablablabla.... " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO_3Qgib6RQ   .............. same point as yesterday, the day before yesterday, and every day for the last EIGHT MONTHS: bitcoin doesn't scale, until it scales, it still doesnt scale.............. get mad and write some more paragraphs... "blablablabla" ...

Yes, all words look the same if you either don't read them (which you admitted that you do not read points), or if you do not understand them.

My points may rhyme, but they are not the same points because I tailor my points to whichever substantive (or non-substantive) points I am addressing - unlike your bullshit repetition in which you seem to be attempting to lump others into the same superficial category as you fit into. 

From time to time, I hope that you may be able to improve, but sometimes I question whether you may in fact be a lost cause,,, because you seem to become so emotionally attached to your agenda and apparently desperate when BTC developments do not seem to be going as you had projected in your non sensical posts.

[blunderer]

Mr. Ram Off Deutsche Bank says:

“As far as bitcoin as a future currency, I’m not sure whether universal adoption is a sure thing. The public seem most interested in the digitalization and convenience of new faster payment methods more than a change in the currency itself.”

I'm generally ok with the speed of payment. I truly take issue with some properties of the Fiat money, though. Especially with the fact that banks can lend it into existence out of thin air. I can see why someone from a bank would downplay the fact that I am probably not alone.

This is technically correct. It's also technically correct that Bitcoin miners could start mining a fork with 500BTC block rewards.
Why don't they do it? For the same reason Banksters don't print endless money out of thin air: because it's not in their enlightened self-interest to do so.

[Mrpumperitis]

http://www.coindesk.com/private-satoshi-roundtable-bitcoin-exec-scaling-debate/

sounds like a bilderberg meeting,lol

yep.. i wasnt supposed say anything but since u mentioned it.... i will be there too... i will be speaking about how " bitcoin does not scale, and that until it does scale, it still doesnt scale " .. and then i will roll out the BitcoinPure fork of mega-chains of 12M blocks ready for Golden Week of Chinese Bears..................... assuming everyone at the Satoshi Round Table is on board with the plan ... if we have consensus, then right as we fork the network we will have Coinbase, in conjunction with BFX and the chinese exchanges PUMP the lightneing chain forks of the secret bitcoins we are going to release ... at that point we will be able to collect more fees since we will have multiple lightening forks of bitcoins and mega-chains of 12M blocks ...

phase two will then be happen: we will have billyjoe raid all five lightning forks of mega-blocks with the #FourPunchRaiders to cause massive volatility to attract newb traders to the ligthening forks during the Golden Week of Chinese Bears . once we have all this in place, finally, we will .. all of us .. buy boats and rule the world from right here from 'wall of observer thread' of bitcoin forum. everyone except juangee ... we are going to 'blockchain blacklist' him during the purification ... lol..... its going to be exciting times for all ye landlubbin HODLERS!!

lol gd read.

During a recent crypto chat a friend asked .."why cant bitcoin still be called bitcoin after they decide to scale to 2mb or more?...if they change the name to btc classic or core then whats to stop them changing the name again and again?" oh she also said the usa gov def knows who satoshi is , " if they didnt know then all these btc devs would be in guantanamo , until they gave up his id" ,lol

[JayJuanGee]

Can someone eat that bitstamp wall pls

Aren't walls made in order to be pulled at some convenient (or not so convenient) time?

Sure, eating the wall is going to be much more interesting and exciting...

[JayJuanGee]

http://www.coindesk.com/private-satoshi-roundtable-bitcoin-exec-scaling-debate/

sounds like a bilderberg meeting,lol

yep.. i wasnt supposed say anything but since u mentioned it.... i will be there too... i will be speaking about how " bitcoin does not scale, and that until it does scale, it still doesnt scale " .. and then i will roll out the BitcoinPure fork of mega-chains of 12M blocks ready for Golden Week of Chinese Bears..................... assuming everyone at the Satoshi Round Table is on board with the plan ... if we have consensus, then right as we fork the network we will have Coinbase, in conjunction with BFX and the chinese exchanges PUMP the lightneing chain forks of the secret bitcoins we are going to release ... at that point we will be able to collect more fees since we will have multiple lightening forks of bitcoins and mega-chains of 12M blocks ...

phase two will then be happen: we will have billyjoe raid all five lightning forks of mega-blocks with the #FourPunchRaiders to cause massive volatility to attract newb traders to the ligthening forks during the Golden Week of Chinese Bears . once we have all this in place, finally, we will .. all of us .. buy boats and rule the world from right here from 'wall of observer thread' of bitcoin forum. everyone except juangee ... we are going to 'blockchain blacklist' him during the purification ... lol..... its going to be exciting times for all ye landlubbin HODLERS!!

To the extent that there is any substance in your above fantasy post.... you appear to be in a bit of a lala land to think that there is any kind of "we" going on in bitcoin.  Bitcoin is structured in a such a way that it is peer to peer and decentralized and there are going to be a variety of ins and outs and in the end, as it expands, it will likely involve all types (good, bad and ugly).... well at least hopefully fungibility will be preserved in such a way that blacklisting is not any kind of meaningful dynamic.

Lots of interesting times ahead indeed to see how some of this plays out regarding whether BTC is a storage of value or a currency or something else and to what degree.