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[aztecminer]

price is up a bit, Max leverage short now?

Whoops, I'm max leverage long!

Would you be kind enough to tell me on which plateforme are you trading long/short?
Cause i'm looking for a new plateforme!

finex and poloniex

Thanks sir.
Gonna see what they're looking. I'm a bit tired of Kraken.

if kraken goes down it will be gox times five . ... due to the fragility of the bitcoin environment right now . #gimpedcoin

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[aztecminer]

It is only because of politics that people will not like Classic.

Classic is just Core with at 2mb block size limit.

As long as that statement is true I will support it. I supported XT also until Hearn added blacklisting code to it.

Core with at 2mb instead of 1mb limit is a good idea. That's just math/logic. Not politics.

I will be sure to upgrade my node (yes, I still actually run a full node) when it is fully released (as long as there are no other changes snuck in!).

good call .

[aztecminer]

It is only because of politics that people will not like Classic.

Classic is just Core with at 2mb block size limit.

Classic is building off the 0.11.2 branch which is soon to be outdated with 0.12.0 coming out of RC. There are many significant improvements with 0.12.0 that you will be forgoing(It is unlikely that Classic will switch over to 0.12.0 within the next 2 months) . Classic only has 2 experienced developers maintaining it where Core has 45.

Segwit and classic have practically similar capacity upgrades, with segwit allowing for better longterm scaling by fixing tx malleability(something that is required for payment channels to progress) .

Logically, supporting Classic doesn't make much sense.

That's why I say, only if that is the change.

Frankly I don't understand why it would need many coders or time to change a line of code from 1mb to 2mb. I can do it quickly, just give me an hour, grep and vi.

I don't want to support a hard fork that does anything but the block size change. Throwing in last minute changes along with it is similar to politicians throwing in their shitty little laws here and there with major laws that everyone supports.

we have a corrupt political system for sure... that probably would be a sign that bitcoin corruption has started .. although i have questioned the Marshal's Auction Pump .. i'm not sure that was a straight on the up and up .. i generally refuse to deal w people who aren't straight up .. bad for business . #shadyGimpedCoin

[Fatman3001]

How you doin there Aztec? Feeling ok?

[aztecminer]

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Segwit and classic have practically similar 0-0.25MB difference capacity differences , with segwit allowing for better longterm scaling by fixing tx malleability(something that is required for payment channels to progress) .

Logically, supporting Classic doesn't make much sense.

TL;DR: Classic takes an existing kludge (1MB limit) and changes it to 2MB. No complexity added.
Core keeps the existing kludge (1MB limit), and *adds another, horrendously convoluted kludge, just to keep the *other* kludge*.
In technical circles, this sort of thing is called "fucking retarded," "a patch on a patch."

technically we might call that a "clusterfuck" .

[aztecminer]

How you doin there Aztec? Feeling ok?

yeah i am doing GREAT!! catching up on the thread .... how are you ??

[Fatman3001]

How you doin there Aztec? Feeling ok?

yeah i am doing GREAT!! catching up on the thread .... how are you ??

Same old, same old. Nerds be arguing.

[aztecminer]

That's why I say, only if that is the change.

Frankly I don't understand why it would need many coders or time to change a line of code from 1mb to 2mb. I can do it quickly, just give me an hour, grep and vi.

I don't want to support a hard fork that does anything but the block size change. Throwing in last minute changes along with it is similar to politicians throwing in their shitty little laws here and there with major laws that everyone supports.

There are indeed more changes to Classic than you are implying... There necessarily has to be because simply changing maxBlockSize from 1,000,000 bytes to 2,000,000 bytes would be dangerously irresponsible and introduce new attack vectors.

Here is a list of the changes done -

https://github.com/gavinandresen/bips/blob/92e1efd0493c1cbde47304c9711f13f413cc9099/bip-bump2mb.mediawiki

What I find most deplorable about these changes is the 75% threshold and extremely small 28 day window which goes against the miners wishes of 90% . Even Bitmain's CEO believes this is too small. Softforks require 95% mining consensus for goodness sake and they want to push through a contentious hardfork at 75%.... This is essentially a political coup.

 

bitmain is a good straight up company.. i like those guys .

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

How you doin there Aztec? Feeling ok?

yeah i am doing GREAT!! catching up on the thread .... how are you ??

Just don't try to catch up all at once. Gotta pace yourself, bro.

[aztecminer]

Most downvoted comment in the whole thread. Woot?

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/44qvoz/has_blockstream_received_a_nsl/

pretty sure Gavin has been operating under the influence of a NSL since not long after his trip to the CIA ... his actions are sometimes directly opposite of what he says, his whole behaviour and demeanour screams like a warrant canary, it's like he's shaking his head and saying Yes! all the time.

This theory actually makes sense.

coinbase is in on this too ??

[aztecminer]

How you doin there Aztec? Feeling ok?

yeah i am doing GREAT!! catching up on the thread .... how are you ??

Just don't try to catch up all at once. Gotta pace yourself, bro.

yeah sorry. i'm done for now. i read it all. thanks ..

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[WeltMaster]

eugh..

All this stupid infighting at the worst possible time

deutsche bank is looking like its going to be the next lehman and all this retarded community cares about is "xDxd muh scalability ecs dee xDxD"

forking idiots

[Fatman3001]

eugh..

All this stupid infighting at the worst possible time

deutsche bank is looking like its going to be the next lehman and all this retarded community cares about is "xDxd muh scalability ecs dee xDxD"

forking idiots

Try not to overreact this time.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

eugh..

All this stupid infighting at the worst possible time

deutsche bank is looking like its going to be the next lehman and all this retarded community cares about is "xDxd muh scalability ecs dee xDxD"

forking idiots

Try not to overreact this time.

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[Fatman3001]

eugh..

All this stupid infighting at the worst possible time

deutsche bank is looking like its going to be the next lehman and all this retarded community cares about is "xDxd muh scalability ecs dee xDxD"

forking idiots

Try not to overreact this time.

I was thinking more of the 30s.

[Fatman3001]

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[adamstgBit]

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 This way we can launder million in ill gotten Bitcoins

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