Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[Fakhoury]

I don't think market behaviour like this will look too impressive to the SEC pondering ETFs right now. Bitcoin has lifted her skirt to reveal a sloppy pussy, or double dick arrangement, or even BOTH.

Yes. But having the Chinese regulate their exchanges cleans that pussy up (to use your retarded analogy).

The chinese exchanges were a systematic risk. It was even mentioned in some of the comments to the SEC that the exchanges could be used to manipulate the price. Clean that up and all of a sudden we have a greater chance of being aproved.

I agree.

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[rjclarke2000]

God knows how someone who hodls a huge amount is feeling. I have a reasonable amount and it hurts even though I don't trade or plan to sell anytime soon.

It always feels bad when the price drops exorbitantly, and if you are prudent, in any kind of way, you are not investing more than you can afford to lose... right?

On the other hand, if you are gambling, and investing more than you can afford to lose, then you are going to feel a lot more stress about these kinds of situations that are actually within the realm of expectations.

No JJG. I have invested only what I can afford to lose. It in no way affects my family.

Still a bit of a kick in the balls though.

[sulfurtank]

this was really good at least for me... i needed some cash to pay some bills about a week before and now i look my balance in BTC and is more than i had before i sell... i will call this EPIC thank you all sellers for that of course not all days are winning days since i have been goxed all the way in the past but this was really awesome ! now you can go up again

Dont tell ur wife that u sold ur coins. U would need to hire a humanoid-mutant, only he would be able to assist u with handling excessive anger of hers. My wife died 3 years ago from being struck by my arrow, at least this is what has been written in a certificate of a criminal record. I trade crypto and couldnt be happier man because I know my wife is dead and will not interfere with my financial transactions.

[rjclarke2000]

I don't think market behaviour like this will look too impressive to the SEC pondering ETFs right now. Bitcoin has lifted her skirt to reveal a sloppy pussy, or double dick arrangement, or even BOTH.

Gentlemand, once again, a class comment! Ha ha

[JimboToronto]

Just sending fiat to an exchange hehe.
If it goes below 500$ I'll buy half a dozen btc. Well, I would buy at this price too, it's just I have to wait fore the prehistoric wire transfer.
Someone knows a way to instantly buy btc? (Not localbitcoins).

https://coinatmradar.com/countries/

Be prepared to comparison-shop. Rates vary considerably. Where I live they range from 1% to over 15%.

[rjclarke2000]

Just sending fiat to an exchange hehe.
If it goes below 500$ I'll buy half a dozen btc. Well, I would buy at this price too, it's just I have to wait fore the prehistoric wire transfer.
Someone knows a way to instantly buy btc? (Not localbitcoins).

https://coinatmradar.com/countries/

Be prepared to comparison-shop. Rates vary considerably. Where I live they range from 1% to over 15%.

Thanks for this jimbo. There are 2 within 20 mins drive from me.

I never knew this.

[Raja_MBZ]

Good to see bitcoin back at less than $800, finally, another chance to buy more!

But it's really bad to see that only one country is starting to get the hold of bitcoin, that's not why the bitcoin was made...

[RAJSALLIN]

WAR ON CHINA NOW!!

No we should thank them. They are cleaning up their exchanges and at the same time the risk of China baning bitcoin is highly reduced. If you wanted bitcoin to ever succeed this was the best that could happen imo

Care to elaborate please ?

Well, I think the market has been worried of a full ban by China. China making bitcoin illegal or in some other way putting in some kind of ban to reduce capital flight. If the Chinese governement actively seek to control the exchanges in order to make them comply there isn't any reason for them to clamp down further. Yes there will be less capital flight buying but since that was anyhow a zero sum buy/sell it probably won't make a difference. What the Chinese can still do is buy bitcoin as a store of value and that has the potential to drive the price much higher.

Then we had the risk of these rogue exchanges being used to manipulate the price (both up and down) which was bad for volatility and overall trust in btc.

Finally there is the point of the SEC that I mentioned.

[mattimann]

Just sending fiat to an exchange hehe.
If it goes below 500$ I'll buy half a dozen btc. Well, I would buy at this price too, it's just I have to wait fore the prehistoric wire transfer.
Someone knows a way to instantly buy btc? (Not localbitcoins).

https://coinatmradar.com/countries/

Be prepared to comparison-shop. Rates vary considerably. Where I live they range from 1% to over 15%.

Thanks for this jimbo. There are 2 within 20 mins drive from me.

I never knew this.

You can buy instantly via Credit Card at Stamp.

[eddie13]

WAR ON CHINA NOW!!

No we should thank them. They are cleaning up their exchanges and at the same time the risk of China baning bitcoin is highly reduced. If you wanted bitcoin to ever succeed this was the best that could happen imo

Care to elaborate please ?

Sure..

Nothing that comes out of china can be believed.. Not their news, not their fiat exchange rates, not their crypto exchange rates or the action of their exchanges in the market.. Maybe not even their miners?

What does china do?
They do everything they can to make people THINK that they have this great massive influence, make people believe that china is in control with their grandiose claims..

And then what? Use their exaggerated influence to MANIPULATE..
Their actual pull is much less than they make it out to be..
I wouldn't even put it past the chinese gov or the pboc to be IN ON IT because everything about the entire chinese economy is FAKE..
Propaganda..

This manipulation is bad for bitcoin.. No matter the end result, price this extreme volitility scares everyone away... This extreme volitility is also terrible for use as a currency..

The other day I said "when does BTC ever loose half it's value overnight?"
Now, it does..

Another thing..
I'm not sure of taking a side of segwit or whatever but, if segwit is what we need look who's stopping it.. China, that's who..
The greedy miners that just want ROI..
 
You know their mining advantage comes entirely from the fact that they don't mind dumping into and polluting their country by way of ground and the entire world by way of air..

They don't give a fuck how bad they fuck shit up to make the cheapest electricity possible..
They don't give a fuck how bad they fuck shit up to make the cheapest planned obsolescence electronics such as miners not to mention everything else they sell/export that is nothing but garbage in 1 year or so if that..

It is too bad that bitcoin has managed to get itself caught up in this terrible china game..

Not just bitcoin, the whole world..

Trump's trade war NOW!!
Maybe they will even give us the chance to embarrass their chincy china military..

They are sitting too many notches too high on the global pegboard and need to be taken down a few rungs including their current manipulated false influence and set them back a ways to learn their lesson..

We need to kick this toxic china influence OUT of our grand experiment of the people's financial liberty..

I hope china bans bitcoin once and for all..

China GTFO..

You think china wants anything to do with personal liberty? Think again..
This could even be a chinese special ops tactic to destroy bitcoin..

Wayyy too much perceived and otherwise justifiable influence by dirty actors..

[JayJuanGee]

The psychology is remarkable. So many willing buyers at 1100, but at 35% discount the same folks flip out. This is why 80%+ traders are losers. RSI is way oversold, could drop a little more but not much before a significant bounce.

Well I don't think that it is anything to be judgmental about.. it is just the way people are if they do not already have a preset system in place... and even if you have a system in place, it is very tempting to lapse into that kind of losing trading to follow the momentum, and then get screwed by buying at the top and selling at the bottom

Just sending fiat to an exchange hehe.
If it goes below 500$ I'll buy half a dozen btc. Well, I would buy at this price too, it's just I have to wait fore the prehistoric wire transfer.
Someone knows a way to instantly buy btc? (Not localbitcoins).

That is why you have to have your various systems set up in advance, even if you may not use them until you feel that the time is right (like now)..

[eddie13]

I don't think market behaviour like this will look too impressive to the SEC pondering ETFs right now. Bitcoin has lifted her skirt to reveal a sloppy pussy, or double dick arrangement, or even BOTH.

I put a hope on the "auto-approval".

Could very well be a chinese tactic to try to stop it from happening..

[ImI]

disclaimer:

just woke up...

i lost huge

 

but i agree with the fact that their impact is overestimated.

[JimboToronto]

This is certainly a "buyable" dip, yet the only question is at what point(s) to lock in the buy(s).

All my buys are already locked in. I buy straight into paper wallets and have no desire to sell any unless I absolutely must.

My bitcoins are my nest egg for comfort in my old age. When they hit $10k I might spend my original investment on something cool.

Any real deep dip is buyable to me, as long as it's not just a correction to where it was a day or two earlier.

For example, this past week has had 3 buyable dips, after about 2 months without one. The last one was November 3.

If the price keeps going down, I'll keep reallocating funds to buy more.

[JayJuanGee]

God knows how someone who hodls a huge amount is feeling. I have a reasonable amount and it hurts even though I don't trade or plan to sell anytime soon.

It always feels bad when the price drops exorbitantly, and if you are prudent, in any kind of way, you are not investing more than you can afford to lose... right?

On the other hand, if you are gambling, and investing more than you can afford to lose, then you are going to feel a lot more stress about these kinds of situations that are actually within the realm of expectations.

No JJG. I have invested only what I can afford to lose. It in no way affects my family.

Still a bit of a kick in the balls though.

When I was using the word "you", I was not referring to "you" specifically but just referring to the "someone who holds huge amounts" that you referred to.   In that regards, I think that very similar principles apply whether you hold "huge amounts" or smaller amounts.  Of course, anyone who holds "huge amounts" should also be engaging in various kinds of hedging practices in order to protect from some of the anticipated bitcoin volatility.

[osmotic]

Yes there will be less capital flight buying but since that was anyhow a zero sum buy/sell it probably won't make a difference. What the Chinese can still do is buy bitcoin as a store of value and that has the potential to drive the price much higher.

The BTCC CEO said it's unlikely bitcoin is a big route for capital flight out of China because of all the fees involved in buying bitcoin, withdrawing it, then selling it abroad, and withdrawing fiat.

He says it's more store of value to hedge against the crashing Yuan. When Trump gets into power there is speculation his high import tax of Chinese goods policy could devalue the Yuan further, which could pump bitcoin further.

[uhoh]

Wow, what an incredibly disappointing day! Lost an absolute ton. Exciting though...

[RAJSALLIN]

Yes there will be less capital flight buying but since that was anyhow a zero sum buy/sell it probably won't make a difference. What the Chinese can still do is buy bitcoin as a store of value and that has the potential to drive the price much higher.

The BTCC CEO said it's unlikely bitcoin is a big route for capital flight in China because of all the fees involved in buying bitcoin, withdrawing it, then selling it abroad, and withdrawing fiat.

He says it's more store of value to hedge against the crashing Yuan. When Trump gets into power there is speculation his high import tax of Chinese goods policy could devalue the Yuan further, which could pump bitcoin further.

I agree with this.

[eddie13]

disclaimer:

just woke up...

i lost huge

 

but i agree with the fact that their impact is overestimated.

Lost just over half of the BTC I made on the pump..

shrugs..

[jofus]

here we go