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February 05, 2018, 03:22:11 AM

Who's selling at these prices and why?

More importantly, who's not buying at these prices and why?


Shaking the tree some more.


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February 05, 2018, 03:23:34 AM

Weird how $1000 sounds aweful and awesome at the same time.

It's all a matter of perspective.

My best friend & I each bought one BTC in 2013 for $110 each.

He lost the whole thing to a ponzi scam.

I HEDL.

He's been dying to get back in and was only able to in December, poor guy!

So $1000 is OK* with me...but for my friend, not so much!

*NOT REALLY
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February 05, 2018, 03:24:46 AM
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going to have to eat a beloved chicken soon

fiat exhausted

please...capitulation...?

uncle

Jojo.   Don’t get bull trapped.  This has not played out yet.

We could go much much lower.  Try to put yourself in a position where you have options whichever direction the price goes in.

too late for all that

Imma have to go back to work...and I fear for that australorp

back to carrying water and chopping wood...

It will bounce.  Consider partial exit on the bounce while still leaving enough to hedge against a sudden upside move. Try to put yourself in a position where you win no matter what the price does, even if those wins are not as great as If you went all in.


You are speaking da true... Harry barry   (AKA Hairy berry)   Cheesy
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February 05, 2018, 03:26:34 AM

Who's selling at these prices and why?

More importantly, who's not buying at these prices and why?


Shaking the tree some more.


Shake


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Anything there?











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Well I just don't have any money to buy. Darn if only I sold just a bit at 20k... Could have bought back Sad
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February 05, 2018, 03:30:09 AM

Who's selling at these prices and why?
I sold short term at 8500 and bought at 8000, but I am gambling with money I can afford to lose.

Now just waiting for the recovery of market.

Well I can't stop wondering who the hell is selling at 40% of ATH.
Everybody who bought during the bull run would sell at lost. Those who bought earlier came before btc went full hype, so I think those guys should have more the hodler profile or similar.

So my best guess is, weak hands afraid to lose more than they already have money are actually selling at lost + whales dumping + guys speculating on the decreasing price as you do.

But all of that for one whole month of practically straight decreasing ?
Come on I need to breathe.

One magically new ATH right would please me so freaking much  Grin


What about you Nosk?  What is your situation?  You buying, selling, hodling?  Accumulating or already accumulated?
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February 05, 2018, 03:33:07 AM

You'll know you are a true Bitcoin vet when you start to regard downturns as quite boring.

Where's the Mt. Gox implosion level FUD of the good old days? I'm sure they can pull something out of their butt if they try real hard.

C'mon bear raiders, impress us!  Angry
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February 05, 2018, 03:36:51 AM

So my best guess is, weak hands afraid to lose more than they already have

Also Wall St. is crashing us on purpose, Undecided

Sounds kinda weird to me. The fire power needed for such a crash... Plus, they would be selling at lost on purpose. That would be purely burning XX% of your money just to keep the other %. Unless they bought before the bull run but I doubt it. More like they caused the bullrun.

I agree and I hope they BURN!
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February 05, 2018, 03:40:31 AM



Rosewater panic





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February 05, 2018, 03:42:22 AM

It might go lower but I cant think of a buy here not turning a profit sometime within the next 2 months.
I can't help but think along the same lines. Are you losing your contrarian edge, or is it that you're dragging me to the Other Side?  Tongue
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February 05, 2018, 03:44:35 AM

This time there is no imminent fear of an apocalyptic meltdown accompanied with a selloff of hundred thousands of BTC.
There is no fear that half of the fiat liquidity will vanish in some weeks.


Majority of the market participants are just coming into realisation that this is a bubble popping and everyone is trying to catch the falling knife.



OR


INB4 MEGA FUD?
Tether is a ponzi?
Bitfinex going bust?
500 k BTC sell off?
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February 05, 2018, 03:45:11 AM


BTC > $8K

I can sleep tonight....
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February 05, 2018, 03:49:24 AM

Who's selling at these prices and why?
I sold short term at 8500 and bought at 8000, but I am gambling with money I can afford to lose.

Now just waiting for the recovery of market.

Well I can't stop wondering who the hell is selling at 40% of ATH.
Everybody who bought during the bull run would sell at lost. Those who bought earlier came before btc went full hype, so I think those guys should have more the hodler profile or similar.

So my best guess is, weak hands afraid to lose more than they already have money are actually selling at lost + whales dumping + guys speculating on the decreasing price as you do.

But all of that for one whole month of practically straight decreasing ?
Come on I need to breathe.

One magically new ATH right would please me so freaking much  Grin


What about you Nosk?  What is your situation?  You buying, selling, hodling?  Accumulating or already accumulated?

I would say that I already accumulated (since I mined a few in 2013 and then martin galed until ~5-6btc). I have hodl since. But after last december that I felt really dumb, having miss a beautiful oportunity. So now I trade a bit but I'm pretty shy in my orders. I have a feeeew selling at ~9k € in case of a bounce and Im initiating to shitcoins trading to earn more btc.
Currently dont want to inject my fiat in that, it would be too bad to sleep in the streets for the sake of hodling an accumulating Grin
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February 05, 2018, 04:00:31 AM

It's shorting, not real selling. I have a hunch most nonwhale hodler/accumulators have raked in what they could at increasingly discounted prices. I did, for the most part, as JJGee duly hypothesized (well, grandma apart).

However, shorting much longer (pun, sorry) could turn into risky business if any whale hodler/accumulator smells easy prey. I'd guess on the whole hodlers/accumulators tend to be less aggressive than pump&dumpers, but but. If one's pissed off enough, and the kill is easy enough...
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February 05, 2018, 04:02:54 AM



Rosewater panic





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o.k.  I fixed the original post in light of your proposed changes.   Wink
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February 05, 2018, 04:05:25 AM

So my best guess is, weak hands afraid to lose more than they already have

Also Wall St. is crashing us on purpose, Undecided

Sounds kinda weird to me. The fire power needed for such a crash... Plus, they would be selling at lost on purpose. That would be purely burning XX% of your money just to keep the other %. Unless they bought before the bull run but I doubt it. More like they caused the bullrun.

Maybe they bet long on the futures and bought, then put shorts on after the futures closed and stated dumping. They might be putting very low buy orders in and trying to crash the price enough to fill them. After they reload they can close their shorts at a profit, put longs on again and start pumping the price.

For every coin they dump there's probably ten more sold due to stop loss triggers and panic selling.
Out of merits, sorry. First come, first served. Ahem.
Although, to pick a nit, 1:10 might be a tad overstated.
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February 05, 2018, 04:14:07 AM

Who's selling at these prices and why?
I sold short term at 8500 and bought at 8000, but I am gambling with money I can afford to lose.

Now just waiting for the recovery of market.

Well I can't stop wondering who the hell is selling at 40% of ATH.
Everybody who bought during the bull run would sell at lost. Those who bought earlier came before btc went full hype, so I think those guys should have more the hodler profile or similar.

So my best guess is, weak hands afraid to lose more than they already have money are actually selling at lost + whales dumping + guys speculating on the decreasing price as you do.

But all of that for one whole month of practically straight decreasing ?
Come on I need to breathe.

One magically new ATH right would please me so freaking much  Grin


What about you Nosk?  What is your situation?  You buying, selling, hodling?  Accumulating or already accumulated?

I would say that I already accumulated (since I mined a few in 2013 and then martin galed until ~5-6btc). I have hodl since. But after last december that I felt really dumb, having miss a beautiful oportunity. So now I trade a bit but I'm pretty shy in my orders. I have a feeeew selling at ~9k € in case of a bounce and Im initiating to shitcoins trading to earn more btc.
Currently dont want to inject my fiat in that, it would be too bad to sleep in the streets for the sake of hodling an accumulating Grin

I consider that most new BTC entrants go through an accumulation stage, and thereafter a maintenance stage, so it sounds like you mostly went through your accumulation stage already, and you are in a kind of maintenance stage.. and hopefully, you don't gamble with too much of your BTC holdings while you are in a maintenance stage..

Of course a maintenance stage does not foreclose BTC accumulation, but usually a sign of being in a maintenance stage is that you are not as desperate to establish your stake - and largely you have already acquired enough BTC in case the price goes up.

I consider myself to have taken about a year from 2013 to the end of 2014 for my accumulation stage, and I have been in a maintenance stage ever since.  I think that my maintenance stage has become more and more refined, but I don't think that my skills caused the refinement but instead the fortune of our most recent exorbitant price rise from $2,600 to $19,666... .. but yeah, we are back in the doldrums of $8k-ish, but did not stop me from feeling a certain level of comfort from maintenance refinement.  When we get to $100k (assuming we do at some point - perhaps less than 5 years?  perhaps?), then I will likely develop even a more "refined" perspective regarding the significance of maintenance.


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February 05, 2018, 04:21:49 AM

I think that my maintenance stage has become more and more refined, but I don't think that my skills caused the refinement but instead the fortune of our most recent exorbitant price rise from $2,600 to $19,666... .. but yeah, we are back in the doldrums of $8k-ish, but did not stop me from feeling a certain level of comfort from maintenance refinement.  When we get to $100k (assuming we do at some point - perhaps less than 5 years?  perhaps?), then I will likely develop even a more "refined" perspective regarding the significance of maintenance.
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February 05, 2018, 04:26:04 AM

So masterluc was wrong ?

Starting to look that way
Actually, 7.5k wasn't ruled out, but labeled as "less likely" (possibly, "much less likely" - not sure). Not to play devil's advocate, but how do you expect a Bulgarian fortune teller witch to speak in plain, unambiguous words?
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February 05, 2018, 04:31:07 AM

Gee whiz. Do these bears ever run out of coins?  Undecided
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February 05, 2018, 04:32:22 AM

Here's where the dumb money starts selling after a 65% drop, instead of dollar cost averaging. Even if we go into bear mode, they cant wait til the 2020 halving/100K btc.
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