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[Typex]

Universal Sickness Care - and it ain't exactly FREE.  Big Pharma do not want you healthy.  Dental is not covered, along with a lot else.  And good luck getting to see a doctor or specialist without a massive wait.  That's why people here go elsewhere if they can afford it.  Be your own Bank.  Be your own Doctor.  NOBODY else has your best interests at heart.

Dental isnt covered unfortunately but if you take care of your teeth you will be good.  Needing serious medical coverage is a much more random and expensive event than dental.

I saw a doctor yesterday.  Walked right into one of the many "walk-in clinics" scattered everywhere and within 10 minutes I was seeing one, for free.

The specialist I saw twice in 2017 wont fucking leave me alone, keeps calling me for follow ups.

Dont believe any of the BS they feed you south of the border.  There is a reason the rest of the developed world has universal healthcare: it works.  It isnt perfect but for the vast majority of people its the best solution.  If a Canadian desires they can obtain private healthcare, one can even go to the US and 80-90% of it is covered by insurance.

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[PaivanTreidi]

Slightly off topic but still.. I'm not German. But I have to ask... WTF is wrong with Merkel? A civilised answer backed with facts please. You never know... I might agree if the evidence is there.

[JayJuanGee]

I think Tera would be one of the safer ones with firearms in this thread.

That could be an interesting ranking of posters likely to "go off." 

She does seem to have pretty decent ability to control her emotions, but she is also a bit passive aggressive too, so with a gun, who knows what she might do?      maybe just hold us up, and then tickle us with feathers until we kiss her feet, perhaps? 

[JayJuanGee]

Slightly off topic but still.. I'm not German. But I have to ask... WTF is wrong with Merkel? A civilised answer backed with facts please. You never know... I might agree if the evidence is there.

Why don't you say what the fuck you are talking about, rather than putting the burden on others to answer and provide "evidence"?

[Ibian]

Slightly off topic but still.. I'm not German. But I have to ask... WTF is wrong with Merkel? A civilised answer backed with facts please. You never know... I might agree if the evidence is there.

She is literally insane.

More precisely, she has a r-psychology. Meaning she is a narcissist and high on political power, which is apparently more addictive than cocaine.

[Typex]

Sadly, i can attest to this. Stayed in a "free" hospital last year for a week (after i have checked out on "on your own risk"), before they would have actually killed me with misaligned medicine - a dose of glycocortisole 2.5x more than the max my body weight should have allowed - 0.7mg/kg-1.0mg/kg is the "normal" dose - , which i have learned through my smartphone while literally spinning in my bad and bleeding through my sheets due to the waaaay overdosed drugs...and when asked the nurse about "is this infusion really necessary, i have already got one in the morning, she had to check the sheets and said, oh well, no,  you are right.."
Socialized medicine=DEATH; no incentive to do good=no fucks given. 5 of us was in the room, and we were actually browsing med sites; we had to protest against meds cause those were obviously detrimental due to sites like Myo clinics and other sources. One dude had to show pictures from google about his skin leasons to the doctor to prove he does not have "aids", and after 3 days of steroids he was healed...

Free healthcare is a joke. Just as anything "free". Competent people work for profit, obviously.

Do you think Canada's health care providers work for free?  Our doctors dont make as much as they do in the US but they still make great money, 7x what the median employed Canadian makes.  Its also FAR less of a financial cost to become a doctor here vs the US.

[HairyMaclairy]

I think Tera would be one of the safer ones with firearms in this thread.

That could be an interesting ranking of posters likely to "go off." 

She does seem to have pretty decent ability to control her emotions, but she is also a bit passive aggressive too, so with a gun, who knows what she might do?      maybe just hold us up, and then tickle us with feathers until we kiss her feet, perhaps? 

Are you suggesting a new poll after February 14?!

[HairyMaclairy]

Slightly off topic but still.. I'm not German. But I have to ask... WTF is wrong with Merkel? A civilised answer backed with facts please. You never know... I might agree if the evidence is there.

She is literally insane.

More precisely, she has a r-psychology. Meaning she is a narcissist and high on political power, which is apparently more addictive than cocaine.

And you think this applies to Merkel more than it applies to Trump?   The man who says he has a bigger nuclear button than Kim Il Jong?

[RoomBot]

http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/02/investing/stock-market-today-dow/

The real news, Wall Street 1929 crash incoming, HODL your Bitcoin and get some popcorn 

You think this is just the beginning of a down spiral?

*puts tinfoil hat on*

What if the wall street boys knew this was coming and decided to get some cheap bitcoins before the crash.
It would make sense that Bitcoin goes to the moon when Wall Street crashes, we have seen it many times before, in times of turmoil people tend to go towards Bitcoin. In 2017, BTC was in high demand in Zimbabwe, Venezuela and South Korea. All of them had some form of financial tensions.

Well, in that case, USA should be going nutz over BTC

As well as the rest of North America
South America
Europe
Asia
Africa

BTC

[Ibian]

Slightly off topic but still.. I'm not German. But I have to ask... WTF is wrong with Merkel? A civilised answer backed with facts please. You never know... I might agree if the evidence is there.

She is literally insane.

More precisely, she has a r-psychology. Meaning she is a narcissist and high on political power, which is apparently more addictive than cocaine.

And you think this applies to Merkel more than it applies to Trump?   The man who says he has a bigger nuclear button than Kim Il Jong?

Trump is a K, and a rare type at that. He understands how rabbits think and knows how to handle them.

[JayJuanGee]

I think Tera would be one of the safer ones with firearms in this thread.

That could be an interesting ranking of posters likely to "go off." 

She does seem to have pretty decent ability to control her emotions, but she is also a bit passive aggressive too, so with a gun, who knows what she might do?      maybe just hold us up, and then tickle us with feathers until we kiss her feet, perhaps? 

Are you suggesting a new poll after February 14?!

Seems like a much more sophisticated and problematic poll to be ranking our perception of the mental stability of WO thread participants, and likely a bit off topic, too.. you know, delving into an area of possible entertaining ad hominem.. rather than bitcoin price/wall substantive.... 

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[JayJuanGee]

You forgot your doom and gloom tags for the weapons, and furthermore, don't we need a chick in the pic?

[TERA2]

You know what's weird is when I came here 5 years ago we were doing the same thing and having the exact same conversations, except the price was 200 times lower. Bitcoin wasn't even known about - it was a nothing. Now magically it has manifested itself into a thing while we all just stayed here and did nothing and shot the shit. But we fully expected this and we all knew almost 100% that the next rally was coming, and then the next, and then the next. It's like we're a bunch of entitled cunts.

[HairyMaclairy]

You know what's weird is when I came here 5 years ago we were doing the same thing and having the exact same conversations, except the price was 200 times lower. Bitcoin wasn't even known about - it was a nothing. Now magically it has manifested itself into a thing while we all just stayed here and did nothing and shot the shit. But we fully expected this and we all knew almost 100% that the next rally was coming, and then the next, and then the next. It's like we're a bunch of entitled cunts.

I look forward to shooting the shit with all of you entitled cunts when Bitcoin is $1 million in 2025.  Assuming you have not yet overdosed on whiskey and valium. 

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[Enjel]

Speaking of Bernie Sanders, Occupy, etc. - Bitcoin is in a direct conflict with the socialist/communist millennial movement, who probably just wants to do away with money altogether and make everything universal payer. Bitcoin is capitalist. Bitcoin is greedy (its in the whitepaper). Half of bitcoin and what bitcoiners speak about is the price, which is prominently displayed at the top of every website - what is the price? How much am I up? How many coins do you have? When did you get in? Hodl? These people who dont even have any money dont see any benefit in something like bitcoin - to them bitcoin is just shifting the power from one master to another master - from bankers to techy people (the new bankers) - and neither one of them deserve to have more money/resources than anyone else. Its just more jewish witchcraft. As soon as they see that all these early investors and adopters are millionaires and billionares, the jig is up.The whole concept of saving and investing and becoming wealthy or dodging inflation goes over their heads - because nobody should be hoarding money. They want a new system and to live life freely without wealth and status and money. We are just a trojan horse and they wont be fooled for long.

Yes, this is exactly what the Marxists want. However, what is your point?

The problem with these Marxists is that they have this dream of a utopia, but have no way of implementing it. I used to also dream of a utopia when I was much more naive, but the fact is that humans are greedy, generally callous, and overall flawed.
They will take advantage of each other for personal gain - if one person doesn't, another will take the opportunity. The nature of survival and society create and reinforce this.

This is because, at the center, the human is an individual. All collectivist thinking is totally nonsense until you have some special technology that can turn the human race into a hive mind (controlled by a few leaders).

Now, Bitcoin is literally the closest thing we have right now to taking a step towards that utopia - with mass adoption, and each satoshi having immense purchasing power, the purchasing power/price will stabilize.

This is a step to *true* freedom. It starts to resemble a payment system created and enforced by God (actually just probability and cryptography), and not by man (where middlemen control your transactions and stuff). It's not perfect, BTW, but it is revolutionary.

The price is just because we want to have purchasing power with our BTCs. It's normal - I don't why that's a problem.

[JayJuanGee]

You know what's weird is when I came here 5 years ago we were doing the same thing and having the exact same conversations, except the price was 200 times lower. Bitcoin wasn't even known about - it was a nothing. Now magically it has manifested itself into a thing while we all just stayed here and did nothing and shot the shit. But we fully expected this and we all knew almost 100% that the next rally was coming, and then the next, and then the next. It's like we're a bunch of entitled cunts.

Speak for yourself, terabera.

hahahahahaha...

There is no exact group think.

We are having a dialogue, and there is a decent amount of bullishness, yet there is variation too, and there are also peeps who pop in from time to time  that really disbelieve in bitcoin and believe in various other cryptos...

We are not all the same, and you are not the same either, Tera. Both you and I have changed over the past 4-5 years.   I have only been in this thread for 4 years.. but you perhaps 5 years, even though you took nearly a two year break.. and where the fuck were you?  Taking a break.  That was your story.  What the fuck?

Anyhow, don't tell me that your ideas are all the same, and you knew this bitcoin market and price performance was going to happen like this all along...   Yeah, you used to be so obsessed with china, china, china, and now maybe even you are less bearish, but you don't seem to have a shortage of FUD ideas to bring up from time to time... .and  no fucking way, your ideas are not the same and.. no one knows or knew this present state of bitcoin, and yeah, once it happens, then at that time, hindsight becomes 20/20, but before the future happens, it is just a bunch of conjecture, theories, probabilities and some scenarios that seem to be more probable than others, but still historical circumstances could have changed events in which our present status and BTC price performance might not have happened, and we may have been 3-5x under performing from our current state, or maybe another set of events in which we would have been in a 2x higher price arena at this time...   

I already mentioned several times that BTC's price performance had gone about 4-5x beyond my expectations and this 61% price correction does not change my assessment that BTC has performed way more bullishly and even remains in an arena that is about 4x to 5x higher than I had expected.

Yeah, all these circumstances may seem all clear in hindsight.. but not in predicting and even a lot of the peeps discussing in the thread have changed, too... where the fuck  is adam?  he became a big blocker nutjob... and chart buddy and richieT disappeared too because of their pride battle with Theymos... and there are a bunch of others that have disappeared from active WO participation.. .and with new folks, too... and some of the new folks have become quite influential in various ways.. while they learn and teach.. or at least share information in the thread..

Furthermore, there are a lot of fucking ideas out there that are contributing to the bitcoin space in the alt sphere and in the ICOs and maybe some of these activities are within the realm of foreseeable, but certainly not the specifics, so the actual carrying out of segwit and lightning and the battles of the hardforks are other attacks on bitcoin were not exactly known events nor would it be know how they would play out.. including the extent to which the government/financial institutions tolerate and battle bitcoin at the same time.

We cannot sit back smugly and say that we knew all of this.. because we did not, even if some of the specifics are kinds of within a realm of what we thought could be possible.

[HairyMaclairy]

Incidentally while there are bullish signs, the 1D chart still looks like a diseased dick.

[Neo_Coin]