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[realr0ach]

This is starting to look good.

It looks good?  It looks like a giant pump and dump scam to any outside observer who isn't retarded.  Now good old Scamfinex and their tethers are leading in price yet again and for some reason other exchanges follow it. Why exactly would an exchange that doesn't even have fiat withdrawals be the market maker?  In any normal market, that exchange would be completely ignored no matter if the price was $0 or $1 trillion.  

It seems like these people are desperate to try and convince people Scamfinex is somehow relevant; probably because that's China's entry point of BTC manipulation and without Scamfinex, China pump and dump manipulation using fiat that doesn't even exist is gone.

[600watt]

Masterluc thinks it's over.

man, you scared me here for second. "masterluc thinks it's over" could be misunderstood.... 

if this really was the bottom, I will buy him a beer.  I went back all-in.

fun fact: my father-in-law owns some btc that I keep until the new trezors with bigger display are delivered. during the sept.15 drop he called me and said bitcoin is finished and asked me if I could sell his btc. I knew it was just drop, said "ok" but didn't sell his coins but instead bought back in and made some coins. he called right at the bottom.
i was a bit nervous because I had not done what he asked me to do. his btc went way up afterwards, so he wasn't mad at me. he called me up today when btc went below $8k and again asked me to sell because he thinks bitcoin is finished for good now/will go to zero.

how did masterluc knew when my father-in-law would call?   

[gembitz]

Good morning Bitcoinland. Finally made it back out of the jungle to reliable internet access in Playa del Carmen.

Looks like I missed the best buying opportunity in months, down under $7.7k. Now it's already back up over $9k and rising... currently $9005USD/$11155CAD (Bitcoinaverage).  

Today I go back to see the dental tourism doctor for a final set of price quotes and then I'm back on a plane to the Great White North tomorrow.

I'm gonna hate trading sleeping in a tent under a palapa for trudging through the snow, but maybe I'll still have the chance to buy some coins for quadruple digits when I get back.

it's like a jungle out there weee

[Ludwig Von]

Now the question : what is different between yesterday and today? Or is it not yet completely over?

[SecondLeoTheSecond]

This is starting to look good.

It looks good?  It looks like a giant pump and dump scam to any outside observer who isn't retarded.  Now good old Scamfinex and their tethers are leading in price yet again and for some reason other exchanges follow it. Why exactly would an exchange that doesn't even have fiat withdrawals be the market maker?  In any normal market, that exchange would be completely ignored no matter if the price was $0 or $1 trillion.  

It seems like these people are desperate to try and convince people Scamfinex is somehow relevant; probably because that's China's entry point of BTC manipulation and without Scamfinex, China pump and dump manipulation using fiat that doesn't even exist is gone.

Well, the world is full of retards and as i cashed out what i wanted at 16k and got all my juicy coins for free, it's definitely a scam in my favor.
I can only gain money here, which makes a rollercoasterride so much more relaxed.

[SecondLeoTheSecond]

Now the question : what is different between yesterday and today? Or is it not yet completely over?

Look at a seven day chart, then you'll see what is different between today and yesterday.

[jojo69]

fun fact: my father-in-law owns some btc that I keep until the new trezors with bigger display are delivered. during the sept.15 drop he called me and said bitcoin is finished and asked me if I could sell his btc. I knew it was just drop, said "ok" but didn't sell his coins but instead bought back in and made some coins. he called right at the bottom.
i was a bit nervous because I had not done what he asked me to do. his btc went way up afterwards, so he wasn't mad at me. he called me up today when btc went below $8k and again asked me to sell because he thinks bitcoin is finished for good now/will go to zero.

Yo, keep us updated on these calls in the future 'eh?

[starmman]

Bit of a white knuckle ride today - need to fly for a few hours - will be interesting to see what everything looks like when I've landed

[realr0ach]

This is starting to look good.

It looks good?  It looks like a giant pump and dump scam to any outside observer who isn't retarded.  Now good old Scamfinex and their tethers are leading in price yet again and for some reason other exchanges follow it. Why exactly would an exchange that doesn't even have fiat withdrawals be the market maker?  In any normal market, that exchange would be completely ignored no matter if the price was $0 or $1 trillion.  

It seems like these people are desperate to try and convince people Scamfinex is somehow relevant; probably because that's China's entry point of BTC manipulation and without Scamfinex, China pump and dump manipulation using fiat that doesn't even exist is gone.

Well, the world is full of retards and as i cashed out what i wanted at 16k and got all my juicy coins for free, it's definitely a scam in my favor.
I can only gain money here, which makes a rollercoasterride so much more relaxed.

But this is why people flee things like the DOW in the first place, because it's a rigged "casino gulag".  How long before people figure out this one is rigged even more so with a single entity on Bitfinex commonly known as "the Bitfinex spoofer" controlling price all the way from $200 to now.  I mean look at him painting the tape off $7500 where the price went up over $1000 instantly.  

When the entire buy and sell side is controlled by one guy 24/7 (which is how that price jump occurs), you're just in a brand new casino gulag.  He's even more obvious than the US govt's plunge protection team.  Then there's the fact that nobody even knows if he's using real money or not to do this (probably not - tethers).

This shit market is a house of mirrors where nobody knows a ballpark figure for what the real valuation is because every cent over $1000 might have all been one single scammer on a single exchange and his tether fraud.

[serveria.com]

So, who sold at the bottom? Bear trap is over and according to masterluc we're in the beginning of the 4th wave. From this point we're going UP!

[starmman]

So, who sold at the bottom? Bear trap is over and according to masterluc we're in the beginning of the 4th wave. From this point we're going UP!

Hope so - didn't sell, but it has been an interesting week or so - had fun riding the waves - lets see if we get a nice boost again...

[eaglewhite80]

So, who sold at the bottom? Bear trap is over and according to masterluc we're in the beginning of the 4th wave. From this point we're going UP!

Sorry! New here, so pardon me for not giving honor to whom honor is due, if apparently he deserves the honor, but who is he? Masterluc? Been seeing the name appear on this thread over and over.

[fabiorem]

It looks good?  It looks like a giant pump and dump scam to any outside observer who isn't retarded.  Now good old Scamfinex and their tethers are leading in price yet again and for some reason other exchanges follow it. Why exactly would an exchange that doesn't even have fiat withdrawals be the market maker?  In any normal market, that exchange would be completely ignored no matter if the price was $0 or $1 trillion.  

Bitfinex was probably behind this bear run. With the pressure from the regulators, they dumped their own coins in other exchanges, selling them for real dollars. They could not do that in their own exchange, it would be suspicious. Thats why their prices were higher.

Now I think they had made the money they wanted, to back the tether, and will do the audit. The world will see that tether is backed by real dollars, and tether holders will be safe. And of course, Bitfinex will print even more tether, to pump the price to 100k and beyond, with fake buy walls to spark FOMO.





I dont know why you get mad at it. Stock markets do this everyday.

[SecondLeoTheSecond]

This is starting to look good.

It looks good?  It looks like a giant pump and dump scam to any outside observer who isn't retarded.  Now good old Scamfinex and their tethers are leading in price yet again and for some reason other exchanges follow it. Why exactly would an exchange that doesn't even have fiat withdrawals be the market maker?  In any normal market, that exchange would be completely ignored no matter if the price was $0 or $1 trillion.  

It seems like these people are desperate to try and convince people Scamfinex is somehow relevant; probably because that's China's entry point of BTC manipulation and without Scamfinex, China pump and dump manipulation using fiat that doesn't even exist is gone.

Well, the world is full of retards and as i cashed out what i wanted at 16k and got all my juicy coins for free, it's definitely a scam in my favor.
I can only gain money here, which makes a rollercoasterride so much more relaxed.

But this is why people flee things like the DOW in the first place, because it's a rigged "casino gulag".  How long before people figure out this one is rigged even more so with a single entity on Bitfinex commonly known as "the Bitfinex spoofer" controlling price all the way from $200 to now.  I mean look at him painting the tape off $7500 where the price went up over $1000 instantly.  

When the entire buy and sell side is controlled by one guy 24/7 (which is how that price jump occurs), you're just in a brand new casino gulag.  He's even more obvious than the US govt's plunge protection team.  Then there's the fact that nobody even knows if he's using real money or not to do this (probably not - tethers).

This shit market is a house of mirrors where nobody knows a ballpark figure for what the real valuation is because every cent over $1000 might have all been one single scammer on a single exchange and his tether fraud.

Might all be true, but what do I care? It's nice when it goes up and interesting when it goes down. I have my share cashed out and I am in no way relying on any of the money that is in there. I get a nice salary every month and love my job and I am pretty sure my in depth math and engineering skills will not get useless anytime soon, not even with a big collaps. Well, parts actually but basic electronics won't get useless in our lifetime.
So this is all utter fun to me.

[speedwheel]

So, who sold at the bottom? Bear trap is over and according to masterluc we're in the beginning of the 4th wave. From this point we're going UP!

Sorry! New here, so pardon me for not giving honor to whom honor is due, if apparently he deserves the honor, but who is he? Masterluc? Been seeing the name appear on this thread over and over.

https://twitter.com/officialmcafee

take a look here maybe you will understand

[realr0ach]

So, who sold at the bottom? Bear trap is over and according to masterluc we're in the beginning of the 4th wave. From this point we're going UP!

Why would it go up? The market just collapsed to $7500, yet the market imploding is somehow "bullish"?  What planet are you from where you think a parabolic blow-off top occurs and then somehow another bull market happens again right after?  Any real market on earth would be stuck in an extended bear market for years after the bubble implodes like that.  In order for it to instantly skyrocket now for no reason, it would be required to be a scam since no legit market does that.

[Nosk]

Goddamnit its moving way too fast for me. From 7k7 to 9k in what, 3 hours ?

Plus, the 24h volume is insane. Don't know if it's a good sign, given that we are in a downtrend.

[doc12]

So, who sold at the bottom? Bear trap is over and according to masterluc we're in the beginning of the 4th wave. From this point we're going UP!

Sorry! New here, so pardon me for not giving honor to whom honor is due, if apparently he deserves the honor, but who is he? Masterluc? Been seeing the name appear on this thread over and over.

A russian guy who predicted the 2013 Bullrun/bearmarket and the current/past? Bullrun

[JimboToronto]

Thanks for the welcome back everyone. I missed this place.

My internet access was pretty much limited to occasional Android device access at cafes and bars during trips into town. Sometimes I'd even be able to get a semi-reliable connection where I was camping out.

One dude in town has satellite access and relays service out to the boonies via transponders mounted on bamboo poles. Sometimes it take 3 or 4 refreshes just to reach Google. Other times you can even watch streaming video. It's hitt and miss.

Welcome to rural Mexico.
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Hopefully that was final capitulation and we're ready to start heading up again. Looking at volume at Stamp, it was the heaviest in a while.

[rafanadal]

down we go.