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December 05, 2018, 04:19:52 PM

OT:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/04/cramer-this-sell-off-was-caused-by-a-computer-driven-footrace.html

Quote from: Jim Cramer
"Here's the problem: there are now so many hedge funds using the same algorithm, same programs [that] there simply aren't enough investors willing to take the other side of the trade. If we all know that stocks go down on certain triggers, then who the heck would want to buy stocks?" Cramer said.

"That's how you get a day like today, where the market goes into free-fall," the "Mad Money" host continued. "When the percentages are against you and the algorithms are in charge, ... nobody wants to try to be a hero and bet against them."

It's like ol' Jimbo is literally confessing to the market manipulation via algos. And is it really any different in the Bitcoin market? I don't think so.
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December 05, 2018, 04:24:52 PM

I feel a little bit of anti doom coming on ...

sigh

Cruel tricks  Cheesy

(Currently $3867)

Cruel cruel tricks  Cheesy
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That is literally me Cheesy
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December 05, 2018, 04:39:32 PM

It is busy here....

The last real 'crypto winter' we had saw WO thread activity drop right down - occasionally to just Chartbuddy posts for hours.  I hope we haven't got to go through that valley of despair and tumbleweed again to get to the sunny uplands?

The WO seems as busy as ever which hardly feels like capitulation, but surely the figures say if it's not here, it is close...

I hope so, I am standing with my fiat 12-bore at the edge of the woods to give those dips both barrels as I spot 'em.

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December 05, 2018, 04:40:11 PM

I wouldn't describe you as a weird little prick.
You are too hard on yourself, man.
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December 05, 2018, 04:41:21 PM

It is busy here....

The last real 'crypto winter' we had saw WO thread activity drop right down - occasionally to just Chartbuddy posts for hours.  I hope we haven't got to go through that valley of despair and tumbleweed again to get to the sunny uplands?

The WO seems as busy as ever which hardly feels like capitulation, but surely the figures say if it's not here, it is close...

I hope so, I am standing with my fiat 12-bore at the edge of the woods to give those dips both barrels as I spot 'em.



I've often wondered about this.

Many of the people here sat through 2014/15 so their hides will be like concrete. I guess that doesn't stop being bored shitless though.

Even if the gloom matches it, there are still many more people to be gloomy together than last time.
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December 05, 2018, 04:53:16 PM



Just been to collect a bit of precious myself. Now off home to eat lots of junk food & get high!
Hope to see $4,000 again by the end of the day Smiley




so the white...... has been deleted for a few days, and the green has arrived  to recover and cool down for a few days Smiley
i don't smoke myself for years.... very very sometimes on a birthday for lulz, but not often and especially cause my last birthday i was so sick of booze and just 5 hits of a joint .... man you cannot imagine how i was feeling @that time
but short said i'm no SMOKER myself but i don't disapprove guys for smoking cause i do understand the fun of it as well Wink

I really should live a clean life. Maybe when BTC moons.
Sorry for the OT guys!

Think Ill go the other way. I'm aiming for spiral of debauchery
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December 05, 2018, 04:58:22 PM

Not sure if this was already posted, please don't kill the messenger as i don't agree with lots of these points.
However, this shows where institutional investors (aka hedgies) are on this.

https://twitter.com/DoveyWan/status/1068573163670261760

In short: institutionals are shell-shocked and bewildered.
My take home message from this particular tweetstorm: small size institutional money will not participate from now on.

TL;DR she predicts that, similarly to how internet happened, blockchain will eat the world, but somehow traditional players (Fidelity, Paypal, etc) would be the winners and we would be the losers.
I disagree, obviously.

Key takeaway for Institutions, Bitmain, Forkers, etc:

Bitcoin cannot be owned. Bitcoin will own you before you own Bitcoin.

I'm referring to Bitcoin with a capital B. The protocol and network. Not bitcoin the currency. Of course you own your private keys.
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December 05, 2018, 05:11:34 PM

WTF! Can't I just fucking go out to have some drinks for a few hours without Bitcoin shitting on me?
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December 05, 2018, 05:14:23 PM

WTF! Can't I just fucking go out to have some drinks for a few hours without Bitcoin shitting on me?

Just drink a bit longer, it'll bounce back eventually Smiley
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December 05, 2018, 05:19:06 PM

@my prison looking gym.... need to work this DIP out of my system Roll Eyes
How about that BEAR Pennant HM??  Wink
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December 05, 2018, 05:23:53 PM

WTF! Can't I just fucking go out to have some drinks for a few hours without Bitcoin shitting on me?

Just drink a bit longer, it'll bounce back eventually Smiley

Hope so. Gonna check my exchanges, I think I had a some limit buy orders in the 36xx area.

And I drink all the time btw. It worked in 2017, not so much in 2018 though.

P.S.: Fuck, I bought at $3711 and also at $3866
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December 05, 2018, 05:24:41 PM

I already have the post in if you want to visit, link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5080565.0

I would be happy if you participate with any comments
If you have any criticism or something to add I listen to your suggestions

Thanks  Cool
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December 05, 2018, 05:27:26 PM

https://twitter.com/btcking555/status/1070273504011005952

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Approached by an investor desperate to liquidate Bitmain shares at $1,5 bln valuation ! Thats almost 90 prc down-round from August !



https://twitter.com/btcking555/status/1070278748606472192

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With massive losses, Bitmain has no resources to support BCH. Illiquid BCH falls further hitting Bitmain balance sheet. Suppliers cut off credit lines & buyers wary to purchase equipment. IPO Canceled. Only solution - significant down round and VCs take over? Interesting to see!

I am sure they survive in the end.  In a much reduced capacity for better AND worse.

Attack bitcoin... this is what happens.

I will relish the coming humiliation of the new crop of attackers.
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December 05, 2018, 05:27:54 PM

Just a brief update: First round of beers have gone out. I've intentionally used low-fees. The mempool has risen since I started, this morning, and is in the process of clearing up. With any luck, you folks start seeing at least one confirmation soon.

I sent PoolMinor an extra two beers as thanks for compiling the list.

Apologies for the drama, but JJG made me legitimately see red.

That, and I'm a bit pissed at myself for not trying to resolve the "logistics" of the "beer boast post" sooner. Pure laziness on my part, really, and in retrospect, I have no excuse for not paying out.

In my defense, I recognize that I had difficulty reconciling the logistics of handling losing the call - "I can't really buy drinks for the entire thread. That is not practical. How do I resolve this in a fair way to the community ?"

It took me seeing red before I saw a reasonable solution.

Again, sincere apologies for trying to weasel my way out of it. It genuinely was not my intention, and I hope my resolution was considered fair.

EDIT: Just saw the entire first round of people get their first confirmation, so, cheers to you.


I gave you a merit on this post, even though I also gave you a lot of (likely deserved) shit in the past few days, and perhaps there is a bit of an acceptance of responsibility within this post that reaches some acceptable threshold rather than ongoing attempts to project fault. 

I actually don’t expect you to discontinue with your whining, attention whoring and other blawb bullshit, but at least this post seems to contain some self-reflection, rather than overboard emotional projection.   
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December 05, 2018, 05:30:06 PM

WTF! Can't I just fucking go out to have some drinks for a few hours without Bitcoin shitting on me?

Just drink a bit longer, it'll bounce back eventually Smiley

Hope so. Gonna check my exchanges, I think I had a some limit buy orders in the 36xx area.

And I drink all the time btw. It worked in 2017, not so much in 2018 though.

P.S.: Fuck, I bought at $3711 and also at $3866

Good cause you gonna be less happy if you must buy @5-dig
And missed out the opportunity of these last weeks
Be happy with what you bought
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