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Question: Where is the bottom?
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$18,000-$19,000 - 11 (11.2%)
$19,001-$20,000 - 18 (18.4%)
$20,001-$21,000 - 16 (16.3%)
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December 05, 2018, 01:36:39 AM

Fine. No, that's great. At least we know now. Not a crypto-winter but a crypto ice age.
Couldn't be better really. Yay.
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December 05, 2018, 01:38:44 AM


Ah, a topic close to my heart!  Costco has Lagavulin 16 on sale, or at least they did last week...  Bottle's still half full!  Hard to be pesimistic with a well aged, Islay single malt so close at hand.

If'n you've never tried an Islay single malt you may want to start with a Laphroaig 10yo with a splash of distilled water.
Laphroaig is a hit or miss. I love me some good peat, but it's definitely not for everyone. It took me a while to get into too, and I just sucked it up and kept trying a dram every few days for weeks before I could really taste and smell anything other than ashtray.

That's what got me really hooked on whisky though. I was curious to see if there was really something to all the flamboyant and over the top tasting notes that you see everywhere and bought 10 bottles of different scotches to figure out if the deal is real. It is. Who would've guessed that you have to actually buckle down to "learn" tasting.

Similar story here, I was 90% through the first bottle of scotch I ever bought, Laphroag 10, before I truly started to see what it was trying to tell me through gustatory bliss.  

I don't drink much either, and I'll plead the 5th on the rest (old habits die hard.)  But when I do drink, I like me some old, stinky, Islay whiskey.  Or bourbon, the old stand-by is Maker's Mark.  That shit is pretty good.

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December 05, 2018, 01:41:36 AM

Well, should probably go without saying, I rescind my offer of throwing a $100k party, if/when the milestone is achieved. If I've fucked up an intended good-faith beer offering in this thread so badly due to bad planning/foresight on my part or whatever, I have no business pondering more grandiose "events". Not to mention the considerable scorn I have accrued, bearing down upon me, is beginning to weigh heavily on me.

All my calls have turned out to be contrarian, looking back through the lens of retrospection.

I offer nothing of value to this thread.

I should just delete this account and get on with life in meatspace...


You are not serious ?

Come on, hang in here. It's tough, but your contribution is valued by many posters..

FWIW, over 5 years, I have seen a lot of posters reach this stage. Many recovered their mojo.
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December 05, 2018, 01:57:19 AM



2900$ is the last support that could very likely not hold, and should it not then we can easily go to 3 digits again.





I dont see support at 2900.  But certainly above 1000.  At 3 digits, BTC is failing as a project. Possible but unlikely.

I would estimate that $1500 needs to hold, and I expect it to do so, some time in late 2019.

I think we'll be back over $1200 by the 2024 halving. #hopeful
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December 05, 2018, 01:57:52 AM



2900$ is the last support that could very likely not hold, and should it not then we can easily go to 3 digits again.

https://i.imgur.com/jjCAICa.jpg


$2,9xx will be the bottom
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December 05, 2018, 01:58:23 AM
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Both of my family members who could actually afford to invest have asked me if now is a good time to buy bitcoins. I guess they've sat on the sidelines for long enough that they can finally see a buying opportunity.

I usually don't give advice, just tell them what I'm doing. I'm taking my last euros and buying at $3300.

I told them they may need to wait until May or June before things start to move upward.
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December 05, 2018, 02:13:25 AM

<asciilifeform> meanwhile, in entomology dept,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Bukovsky
snippet on dekulakisation https://archive.is/odTRU
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December 05, 2018, 02:16:48 AM
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Mark Yusko, CEO of Morgan Creek Capital Management, LLC bullish on BTC:
"If you buy in today, I don’t think you would have to wait a long time to make a nice return…Over a decade, I think you can make 20-times plus your money."

https://twitter.com/CNBCFastMoney/status/1067544893533368320/video/1

in conventional terms that sounds great. but in the crypto market---10 years, really?

in any other market with bitcoin's technicals, that would be a reasonable assumption. the difference with bitcoin is most of the supply is already mined and distributed. in 10 years, we'll be another three halvings in, so the block subsidy will have much less effect on available supply. people on the spot/OTC markets will be fighting over a lot fewer coins. i think even the most bullish perma-bulls might be surprised at how high this goes, and how fast it does it.
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December 05, 2018, 02:20:04 AM

Anyone used GDAX in London (GBP/BTC)?

Stamp is so difficult to get deposits into fast - I am wondering if it's a decent option as I can get money in damn quick and while I have used Stamp happily for USD/BTC since 2012, it is just torture getting USD deposits in from outside the US.

I know it's just Coinbase 'pro' but - I want to get rid of some fiat while the sale season is upon us.  It looks liquid enough there, at least.

EDIT: it's so late, I will need to get some sleep, but hope an OG here can offer an opinon... 
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December 05, 2018, 02:44:19 AM

In my opinion, there are very major fuck-ups on the horizon.

The Interest rate hikes will blow up everything. The whole system will collapse. Banks won't be able to provide cash. People will lose all their savings in banks.

If they don't raise the rates, It will be hyperinflation then. The whole system will collapse anyway. This time asset prices will do full moon. GOLD= $10k. A loaf of potato = $50. People will die of starvation.

They can't pick their poison.

Banks will go poof!. People will panic. People will seek a mobile asset which they can spend easily which is also a store of value. That's not gold because it is not mobile.

We all know what it is.

BTC will be $100k, maybe even $250k but it will also bring a world war along with it. Then partying in Amsterdam won't look like a bright idea.   Grin

I hate to have merited this.  But its prescient imho.
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December 05, 2018, 02:45:20 AM

Anyone used GDAX in London (GBP/BTC)?

You'll have to tell us how it goes if you do use them. I've also been thinking of hooking up now they supposedly have faster payments sorted out.
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December 05, 2018, 02:49:31 AM

Anyone used GDAX in London (GBP/BTC)?

Stamp is so difficult to get deposits into fast - I am wondering if it's a decent option as I can get money in damn quick and while I have used Stamp happily for USD/BTC since 2012, it is just torture getting USD deposits in from outside the US.

I know it's just Coinbase 'pro' but - I want to get rid of some fiat while the sale season is upon us.  It looks liquid enough there, at least.

EDIT: it's so late, I will need to get some sleep, but hope an OG here can offer an opinon... 

Not many comments out there that I've come across but the few that do exist were all the same - 'fuck me. It's like magic.'
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Not many comments out there that I've come across but the few that do exist were all the same - 'fuck me. It's like magic.'

The gathering?
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December 05, 2018, 03:05:03 AM

In my opinion, there are very major fuck-ups on the horizon.

The Interest rate hikes will blow up everything. The whole system will collapse. Banks won't be able to provide cash. People will lose all their savings in banks.

If they don't raise the rates, It will be hyperinflation then. The whole system will collapse anyway. This time asset prices will do full moon. GOLD= $10k. A loaf of potato = $50. People will die of starvation.

They can't pick their poison.

Banks will go poof!. People will panic. People will seek a mobile asset which they can spend easily which is also a store of value. That's not gold because it is not mobile.

We all know what it is.

BTC will be $100k, maybe even $250k but it will also bring a world war along with it. Then partying in Amsterdam won't look like a bright idea.   Grin

I hate to have merited this.  But its prescient imho.

I was actually looking for that post, thanks. They will stop hikes shortly if not already.
However, EU did not even make any hikes, they are still finishing QE.
Because of this, EU has NO room to cut.
I am not sure how much stimulation going deep negative will do.
If i have to choose btc at 4K OR btc at 100K+world war, my choice would clearly be the former.
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December 05, 2018, 03:09:39 AM

Not many comments out there that I've come across but the few that do exist were all the same - 'fuck me. It's like magic.'

The gathering?

Let us hope not.

Us British people have been neglected for aeons. Until Coinbase added decent banking earlier in the year it took days to get to any proper exchange, if you could at all.
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December 05, 2018, 03:17:09 AM

[edited out]
Was not my finest moment - Wordy-man pissed me off real good, and I lost my cool.

Seems unhealthy to allow any internet persona get under your skin (whether yours truly or otherwise), for more than about 21 seconds...

Kind of like the drop food on the floor 5-seconds rule.. you can eat such dropped food, as long as such dropped food stays on the floor for less than 5 seconds.   Wink
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December 05, 2018, 03:19:50 AM

I still think it's best I formally bow-out of any planning for a $100k party, however. That will most certainly blow my OpSec, and not worth the risk.

I get the point, but you ought to reconsider (in time).
With this kind of stuff coming...it might be sublime:

https://phys.org/news/2018-12-graphene-potential-smart-textiles.html
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December 05, 2018, 03:20:56 AM
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If i have to choose btc at 4K OR btc at 100K+world war, my choice would clearly be the former.

Look on the bright side, if it gets to 100K we'll be able to afford some top-of-the-range nuclear bunkers.
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December 05, 2018, 04:13:56 AM

One for r0ach - You can buy precious metals with BTC at https://www.jmbullion.com
What are you waiting for?


But r0ach lost his original account. LOL  Anyhow, I think he's far too stubborn to actually send BLB a PM with the request.

Edit: Just noticed the comment wasn't about the beer claim, but still.. Grin
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December 05, 2018, 04:23:21 AM

WO veterans cracking. Jojo and Bob questioning their existence in the thread. Bullish.

TBH, I've been feeling the anguish too. It's all part of the cycle.
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