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Question: How far will this leg take us?
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March 07, 2015, 03:42:38 PM

Who did he kill, and why wasnt he charged with this? Huh Huh Huh

He was charged with the alleged attempts to hire the murder of several people in a separate criminal case in Maryland, to be tried later this year IIRC.  Were those charges withdrawn?
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March 07, 2015, 03:46:02 PM

Who did he kill, and why wasnt he charged with this? Huh Huh Huh

He was charged with the alleged attempts to hire the murder of several people in a separate criminal case in Maryland, to be tried later this year IIRC.  Were those charges withdrawn?


that is likely the main reason why they took him down. he was no bitcoin hero...he was a piece of trash that belongs in jail .
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March 07, 2015, 03:59:19 PM

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March 07, 2015, 04:01:46 PM

Good morning, gentlemen.
This paint, perhaps enamel of some sort?  Are you positive you added enough hardener?
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March 07, 2015, 04:03:58 PM

The value in his model is that it's a futile exercise in overcomplication a la Ptolemaic epicycles in order to support his misplaced ideological beliefs.

The Ptolemaic model was actually a great achievement, compared to the previous mathematical models that relied on carriages racing across the sky, pulled by flying horses.

For a sample of the latter, check the /Book of Enoch/, which was once part of the Hebrew Bible but was dropped from it some 2000 or more years ago.  (It was thought to have been lost, until scholars in the 1700s learned that it was still part of the Ethopian Christian Bible.)  It includes an interesting explanation of why the Sun traces different paths on the sky at different times of the year.  (That may have been one of the reasons for its exclusion.)

The Ptolemaic system is no more primitive than models that people build today for all sorts of phenomena, consisting of simple functions -- like straight lines, exponentials, polynomials, Fourier series, splines, sigmoids -- that have no justification in terms of nature of the phenomenon, but are just convenient to compute.  The astronomers in Ptolemy's time did not have analytic geometry nor algebra, so they used geometric constructions (the rotating spheres within spheres) in their place. 

In particular, the popular analysis of bitcoin price, that fits a straight line in log scale, is "crudely Ptolemaic" in this sense, because there is no reason, economic or other, to think that the price would evolve in that way.  I would dare say that my "bubble model" is at least Copernican (who explained the complicated paths of planets relative to the Earth as the difference of simpler paths of the planet and the Earth around the sun).  Maybe even a bit Newtonian...  Cheesy
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March 07, 2015, 04:09:45 PM

MIT Bitcoin Expo Starting now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIgjogLipvk
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March 07, 2015, 04:34:32 PM

I would be careful selling these spikes, everyone expects it and I believe they will be defied soon. Then higher.

Logic here being that everyone thinks, hey I'll just sell the spike (or short) and buy back lower. Once too many traders expect the same thing, the opposite happens, and they have to buy back higher.
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March 07, 2015, 04:38:13 PM

It looks like China is sleep buying bitcoins again.
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March 07, 2015, 04:39:19 PM

The triangle seems to break to the upside. But no major pump yet, hmm...
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March 07, 2015, 04:41:31 PM

The triangle seems to break to the upside. But no major pump yet, hmm...

Sunday pump inc
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March 07, 2015, 04:46:18 PM

Seems some injection of sells will be there before we go where we want it to go...
Let's go bulls, the weaker hands seem to have vanished...
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March 07, 2015, 04:56:04 PM


...alleged attempts to hire the murder of several people..

So, he didnt kill anyone? But we are going to just say that, like, its the same thing, kinda? Whuuup Whuup!  I bagsy the cararo, dude!!   Grin Grin Grin

Jeez, Stolfi, for a guy who can get so anal about possible trends in a chart, you can skim over some pretty important details with ease.
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March 07, 2015, 04:58:57 PM

i think the auction is legit.... dealing drugs is one thing........but when you start ripping everyone off, killing people, threatening to kill people; then your ass is garbage and you belong in jail. #straightup gratz on your successful auction marshal's ... i own two b4c camaros from albuqueque and a undercover t-top firebird from los angeles (i just got this one) i got from auctions....and i have owned three other 9c1's before those i got from auctions. drug dealing is one thing....but there are a lot of bad people out there that belong in jail and from what i have read that silk road guy was a piece of trash. this is why i disagree with the sentiment around here that is against the auctions.

Who did he kill, and why wasnt he charged with this? Huh Huh Huh

Other than that, you're basically saying crime is ok, as long as you get a cheap trashy car from it, Yeah?





my cars arent trash dorky .. i got the good ones. you jealous ??

seems i'm not the only one who buys from their auctions....

how many coins now ??

Dorky?  Seriously?  The US Marshals must be getting desperate if they accept bidding from 12 year old kids.

show us an instagram of your bidding card or this is bullshit.
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March 07, 2015, 04:59:19 PM

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March 07, 2015, 05:20:09 PM

I predict a knee-jerk drop in price after the results of the auction based on the unfounded fear that the coins will be immediately dumped. It is during this drop that I will buy. Then in a week or two some piece of good news will lift the price over 300 settling back down to exactly where we are today. Go on..Quote me

No.

Several reasons.

Firstly you wont get results the best you will get is something like this. https://bitcoinmagazine.com/19512/us-marshals-auction-participant-price-not-significantly-market/

People who didnt win saying what they think etc. That article tells you they didnt go for any less than $220.

Secondly people who think that the coins would be dumped just don't understand the sort of people who are bidding. They are investment firms etc that have no interest in just dumping on the market for a few thousand $ profit, they are after liquidity for their ventures. The fact the coins come from the government is a big plus, they get a receipt for their coins from the US gov. How much more legit from a business perspective can you get? This coupled with that fact the auction process is long winded and difficult but trusted compared to wiring millions to an exchange of people you dont know in hong kong means they just aren't going to be dumped.
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March 07, 2015, 05:21:39 PM

It looks like China is sleep buying bitcoins again.

Youre wrong, m8, western manipulators use goxobi's 0% trading fees to create small pump using wash volume being traded by their bots with only one purpose - to force fools to cancel shorts and create more fat buy support to dump on. Same scheme: wash volume spikes while riceeaters are asleep, waiting for fools to cancel shorts, then dump (i bet its gonna happen on monday due to auction news).
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March 07, 2015, 05:23:36 PM

Nothing but a thought came to my mind thinking of Bitcoins in past and Bitcoins currently...

"Thinking of past creates regrets only, while thinking of future gives birth to curiosity..."
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March 07, 2015, 05:33:44 PM

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Secondly people who think that the coins would be dumped just don't understand the sort of people who are bidding. They are investment firms etc that have no interest in just dumping on the market for a few thousand $ profit...

Another variant of "rich folks are different from you and me, Martha."
How is it still getting play here?
Anyone care to explain why 50K BTC won't be dumped @ market if these coins were bought @$100?
Would translate to some serious scratch, locked in, immediately.
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March 07, 2015, 05:33:59 PM

i think the auction is legit.... dealing drugs is one thing........but when you start ripping everyone off, killing people, threatening to kill people; then your ass is garbage and you belong in jail. #straightup gratz on your successful auction marshal's ... i own two b4c camaros from albuqueque and a undercover t-top firebird from los angeles (i just got this one) i got from auctions....and i have owned three other 9c1's before those i got from auctions. drug dealing is one thing....but there are a lot of bad people out there that belong in jail and from what i have read that silk road guy was a piece of trash. this is why i disagree with the sentiment around here that is against the auctions.

Who did he kill, and why wasnt he charged with this? Huh Huh Huh

Other than that, you're basically saying crime is ok, as long as you get a cheap trashy car from it, Yeah?





my cars arent trash dorky .. i got the good ones. you jealous ??

seems i'm not the only one who buys from their auctions....

how many coins now ??

Dorky?  Seriously?  The US Marshals must be getting desperate if they accept bidding from 12 year old kids.

show us an instagram of your bidding card or this is bullshit.



yeah seriously.. fukoff ...i did not bid on the marshals auction. i aint rich biatch...if i was i would be driving a singapore vanquisher and be on a boat right now.
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March 07, 2015, 05:36:21 PM

...alleged attempts to hire the murder of several people..
So, he didnt kill anyone? But we are going to just say that, like, its the same thing, kinda?

According to the FBI, there are emails in his laptop where Ross offers to pay the Hells Angels in Canada for the murder of a supplier who was threatening to denounce Ross if he did not help the supplier to recover a large sum that another SilkRoad client was owing him (which he in turn owed to the Hells Angels, it seems).  It is not known whether the supplier was actually killed.  Some of those emails were published as evidence in the drug trafficking trial.  That was not the only case of Ross trying to hire a murder, IIRC. 

The trial in Maryland was supposed to look at the murder-hiring charges specifically.  Has it been called off?
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