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[hdbuck]

LOL! That article is from 6 months ago. Gavin has always been very clear that his major concern was the scalability of BTC, which remains to be proven.
As for divesting some of his BTC as he is not interested in being 'filthy rich' (his owrds) and still holds enough to be seriously wealthy, what exactly is the problem with this? Sensible move. Once you have made 'enough' do you seriously expect any sane person to leave it all on black or red? (I know there is not so much sanity in here, so I can understand why it is perceived differently ...)

Talk about missing the point. Not sure why the age of the article matters.

He has a massive conflict of interest as chief scientist speaking to the media. He shouldn't be talking speculation end of.

Imagine if the ceo of an up and coming company was speaking to the media and said "I believe in this company and I'm putting my all into it, however I'm also selling stocks of my company and investing in others".

Sure, that's prudent. That's also what most big share holders would do but you just don't say that. As I said PR nightmare and a massive conflict of interest.

and how about a conflict of interest since working for the US gov?

cant wait for him to be totally dismissed from bitcoin's community.

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[phoenix1]

LOL! That article is from 6 months ago. Gavin has always been very clear that his major concern was the scalability of BTC, which remains to be proven.
As for divesting some of his BTC as he is not interested in being 'filthy rich' (his owrds) and still holds enough to be seriously wealthy, what exactly is the problem with this? Sensible move. Once you have made 'enough' do you seriously expect any sane person to leave it all on black or red? (I know there is not so much sanity in here, so I can understand why it is perceived differently ...)

Talk about missing the point. Not sure why the age of the article matters.

He has a massive conflict of interest as chief scientist speaking to the media. He shouldn't be talking speculation end of.

Imagine if the ceo of an up and coming company was speaking to the media and said "I believe in this company and I'm putting my all into it, however I'm also selling stocks of my company and investing in others".

Sure, that's prudent. That's also what most big share holders would do but you just don't say that. As I said PR nightmare and a massive conflict of interest.

I find the honesty refreshing and don't see him selling some of his stash as a conflict of interest unless he is planning to buy them back lower.
Might not be what you want to hear from him, but that's your problem, not his. Put the pitchfork away

If BTC cannot survive on its own merits, it will not survive at all ... end of.

[phoenix1]

LOL! That article is from 6 months ago. Gavin has always been very clear that his major concern was the scalability of BTC, which remains to be proven.
As for divesting some of his BTC as he is not interested in being 'filthy rich' (his owrds) and still holds enough to be seriously wealthy, what exactly is the problem with this? Sensible move. Once you have made 'enough' do you seriously expect any sane person to leave it all on black or red? (I know there is not so much sanity in here, so I can understand why it is perceived differently ...)

Talk about missing the point. Not sure why the age of the article matters.

He has a massive conflict of interest as chief scientist speaking to the media. He shouldn't be talking speculation end of.

Imagine if the ceo of an up and coming company was speaking to the media and said "I believe in this company and I'm putting my all into it, however I'm also selling stocks of my company and investing in others".

Sure, that's prudent. That's also what most big share holders would do but you just don't say that. As I said PR nightmare and a massive conflict of interest.

I find the honesty refreshing and don't see him selling some of his stash as a conflict of interest unless he is planning to buy them back lower.

Game, set and match.

How could you ever know this. Hence conflict of interest.

What a ridiculous argument. Now he is a liar too as well as bad PR ... proof?
I'm outta here - this thread is turning into a witchhunt. Good luck !

I you feel like you won something, great, have fun with whatever it is ...

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[dreamspark]

I find the honesty refreshing and don't see him selling some of his stash as a conflict of interest unless he is planning to buy them back lower.

Game, set and match.

How could you ever know this. Hence conflict of interest.

What a ridiculous argument. Now he is a liar too as well as bad PR ... proof?
I'm outta here - this thread is turning into a witchhunt. Good luck !

Good bye, you clearly don't get it.

There's no need to prove it, that's the EXACT reason why you don't talk speculation in his position because you can't prove either way. That's why you keep your mouth shut and don't give anybody a reason to think what your saying has any hidden agenda. Therefore your arguments for anything to do with the project are clear of any financial conflict of interest.

I have no problem with what he does with his coins. Hell he could be short his whole stash and I wouldn't care but in the position he's in it's not something you do as PR for your project, end of.

[phoenix1]

Good bye, you clearly don't get it.

No, I clearly don't care about your rant, that's all ...

[Erdogan]

Is this good or bad?

Jon Matonis:

""Bitcoin XT is attempting to fork the core code by propagating it through the existing nodes. I would urge Gavin and Mike Hearn to withdrawal the Bitcoin XT propagation starting today. (If Gavin and Hearn succeed) it will eventually lead to a 21 million cap change."


I think the more coins there are the more money will be put into it so we should go up?Other thoughts?

The 21M cap is one of the core features.  If the 21M cap ever changes, I will sell all my bitcoin and never look back at cryptocurrency ever again.  I'm willing to bet that > 90% of holders/users would do the same. 

^^ Scaremongering. A fork with an increase (which will not happen) of coins, is easy and does not create much stride. It is easy, just follow the old chain. The economics of the new branch which destroys the essential feature, may of course live for a while, since there are so many keynesians (some of them think value depends on creating more coins), but let them have it. It will cause at most a slight confusion-dent in the bitcoin price.

[phoenix1]

Good bye, you clearly don't get it.

No, I clearly don't care about your rant, that's all ...

Aw diddums.

Clearly cared enough to respond.

Awww, you got me, have another peanut 

[Torque]

LOL! That article is from 6 months ago.

Troll short #1: Hey, should we pull old articles out of our ass and any other FUD possible to capitalize on the negative sentiment shitstorm?

Troll short #2: Pure genius.   

[sAt0sHiFanClub]

Imo Gavin and Hearn are to blame for this.

Blame for what?

For the PR desaster that is unfolding at the moment and that could cause harm to the adoption of BTC as much as Goxfart did.

For giving a choice?  Whats with the constant personalisation of the issue? There are 800 fewer bitcoin core implementations - thats a lot of people making a choice.


The suppression of debate on here and reddit will likely have far deeper repercussions in the coming months.

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[fonsie]

I find the honesty refreshing and don't see him selling some of his stash as a conflict of interest unless he is planning to buy them back lower.

Game, set and match.

How could you ever know this. Hence conflict of interest.

What a ridiculous argument. Now he is a liar too as well as bad PR ... proof?
I'm outta here - this thread is turning into a witchhunt. Good luck !

Good bye, you clearly don't get it.

There's no need to prove it, that's the EXACT reason why you don't talk speculation in his position because you can't prove either way. That's why you keep your mouth shut and don't give anybody a reason to think what your saying has any hidden agenda. Therefore your arguments for anything to do with the project are clear of any financial conflict of interest.

I have no problem with what he does with his coins. Hell he could be short his whole stash and I wouldn't care but in the position he's in it's not something you do as PR for your project, end of.

Bitcoin is decentralized, he can say whatever he wants, nobody is forcing you to listen.

Just like I'm no longer forced to listen to you after I pushed "Ignore".

[Wexlike]

Kraken orderbook, wtf.

[kenji]

is bitcoin dead or is it different this time?

[fonsie]

Kraken orderbook, wtf.

Dear sir,

Congratulations, this is the only on-topic post I have seen since joining this forum/thread.

[fonsie]

is bitcoin dead or is it different this time?

bitcoin will be replaced by bitcoinXT, the better alt-coin has been staring us in the face all this time.

[coinpr0n]

Only thing I can think of about that Kraken wall is that the fees are relatively low if your maker in the new model they have. Notice he/she's not buying into the market.

Edit: Still funny.

[Brewins]

is bitcoin dead or is it different this time?

bitcoin will be replaced by bitcoinXT, the better alt-coin has been staring us in the face all this time.

if BitcoinXT really succeeds then it will become Bitcoin.

would not be the first hard fork in the bitcoin history, as far I know

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[JorgeStolfi]

"While Mr Andresen tries to prepare bitcoin for mass usage, he advises caution to investors. He holds thousands of bitcoins, enough to retire comfortably. But he has been cashing them in slowly, investing in stock market funds instead."

Somebody who is supposed to believe the future of his project should not be making such a nightmare of PR every time he speaks to the media.

But at least it is evidence of sincerity.  Do you know how many bitcoins other bitcoin evangelists own, by chance?