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September 22, 2015, 08:08:12 PM |
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Considering volume and order books. Price looks highly manipulated at the moment. Be safe out there traders
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Andre#
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September 22, 2015, 08:45:05 PM |
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Nobody here sees the potential of 21 Inc's platform? What Google did for making money with websites (generate revenue with ads), 21 Inc may do for making money with web-services (generate revenue with pay-per-use). I.e. 21 Inc might be the next Google. Guess what that will do for Bitcoin...  |
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September 22, 2015, 08:49:02 PM |
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Nobody here sees the potential of 21 Inc's platform? What Google did for making money with websites (generate revenue with ads), 21 Inc may do for making money with web-services (generate revenue with pay-per-use). I.e. 21 Inc might be the next Google. Guess what that will do for Bitcoin... the forceshill is strong with this one |
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September 22, 2015, 08:50:20 PM |
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are we rich yet??  No yet, wait a few years, thanks 2016-07 ... the Halving ... with a big H |
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September 22, 2015, 08:57:57 PM |
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Nobody here sees the potential of 21 Inc's platform? What Google did for making money with websites (generate revenue with ads), 21 Inc may do for making money with web-services (generate revenue with pay-per-use). I.e. 21 Inc might be the next Google. Guess what that will do for Bitcoin... I think it would be great if they develop an open source software layer to handle the internet of things, I just don't see the point in the HW bit. |
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September 22, 2015, 09:02:41 PM |
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Norway
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September 22, 2015, 09:06:51 PM |
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Nobody here sees the potential of 21 Inc's platform? What Google did for making money with websites (generate revenue with ads), 21 Inc may do for making money with web-services (generate revenue with pay-per-use). I.e. 21 Inc might be the next Google. Guess what that will do for Bitcoin... I don't see the potential. You don't need special chips or computers to do micro payments. As a charity node, a standard Raspberry Pi 2 is cheaper. And the mining part of it is really lame. To me, it just sounds like a clusterfuck of bitcoin buzzwords. Either the VCs have been fooled, or there is a dimension to this that is still a secret. |
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Andre#
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September 22, 2015, 09:09:17 PM |
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Nobody here sees the potential of 21 Inc's platform? What Google did for making money with websites (generate revenue with ads), 21 Inc may do for making money with web-services (generate revenue with pay-per-use). I.e. 21 Inc might be the next Google. Guess what that will do for Bitcoin... I think it would be great if they develop an open source software layer to handle the internet of things, I just don't see the point in the HW bit. The only point of the HW is to make it easy for developers who are not really interested in Bitcoin as such. |
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Norway
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September 22, 2015, 09:14:40 PM |
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Nobody here sees the potential of 21 Inc's platform? What Google did for making money with websites (generate revenue with ads), 21 Inc may do for making money with web-services (generate revenue with pay-per-use). I.e. 21 Inc might be the next Google. Guess what that will do for Bitcoin... I think it would be great if they develop an open source software layer to handle the internet of things, I just don't see the point in the HW bit. The only point of the HW is to make it easy for developers who are not really interested in Bitcoin as such. That is totally wrong. We don't want tiny special computers to develop on. We want an API, protocol or the open source software layer Fatman mentioned. |
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Andre#
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September 22, 2015, 09:19:09 PM |
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Nobody here sees the potential of 21 Inc's platform? What Google did for making money with websites (generate revenue with ads), 21 Inc may do for making money with web-services (generate revenue with pay-per-use). I.e. 21 Inc might be the next Google. Guess what that will do for Bitcoin... I don't see the potential. You don't need special chips or computers to do micro payments. As a charity node, a standard Raspberry Pi 2 is cheaper. And the mining part of it is really lame. To me, it just sounds like a clusterfuck of bitcoin buzzwords. Either the VCs have been fooled, or there is a dimension to this that is still a secret. Indeed, this HW doesn't do anything that isn't already possible. Just like the first webserver didn't do anything that wasn't already possible (publish some text over the Internet -- you could also just download files instead). But it did make it very easy. Google turned website into something that you can make money with on a per-use basis. The revenue model of 21 Inc may turn webservices also into something you can make money with on a per-use basis. It may take some time to convince developers to start creating services using their platform/API, but nothing similar exists, yet. |
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Norway
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September 22, 2015, 09:31:24 PM |
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Nobody here sees the potential of 21 Inc's platform? What Google did for making money with websites (generate revenue with ads), 21 Inc may do for making money with web-services (generate revenue with pay-per-use). I.e. 21 Inc might be the next Google. Guess what that will do for Bitcoin... I don't see the potential. You don't need special chips or computers to do micro payments. As a charity node, a standard Raspberry Pi 2 is cheaper. And the mining part of it is really lame. To me, it just sounds like a clusterfuck of bitcoin buzzwords. Either the VCs have been fooled, or there is a dimension to this that is still a secret. Indeed, this HW doesn't do anything that isn't already possible. Just like the first webserver didn't do anything that wasn't already possible (publish some text over the Internet -- you could also just download files instead). But it did make it very easy. Google turned website into something that you can make money with on a per-use basis. The revenue model of 21 Inc may turn webservices also into something you can make money with on a per-use basis. It may take some time to convince developers to start creating services using their platform/API, but nothing similar exists, yet. A webserver (Apache) is software, not hardware. I made a micro payment solution for web content via sms payments in 2001. Micropayments is not a new revenue model. Bitcoin can make this happen in a big way. ChangeTip is leading the way right now. |
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September 22, 2015, 10:02:35 PM |
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September 22, 2015, 10:04:01 PM |
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Good morning Bitcoinland.
I see we had a little action last night but we seem to be coming back to $230 pretty consistently lately.
Must be driving the daytraders crazy. Long-term holders yawn.
What is actually our (long term hodling cult, inc.) target? 10 000? 100 000?? 1 000 000??? 32K 52 K 520k Goes to prove that there is NO cult... hahahahaha... We are too inconsistent to be in a cult. I would suggest that $10k would be a decent target, at least in the 5-10 year time range, therearfter, maybe $32K to $100K would be reasonable... but more could also be reasonable... when we are talking longer terms, as the question calls for. |
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RenegadeMan
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September 22, 2015, 10:55:55 PM |
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Nobody here sees the potential of 21 Inc's platform? What Google did for making money with websites (generate revenue with ads), 21 Inc may do for making money with web-services (generate revenue with pay-per-use). I.e. 21 Inc might be the next Google. Guess what that will do for Bitcoin... I don't see the potential. You don't need special chips or computers to do micro payments. As a charity node, a standard Raspberry Pi 2 is cheaper. And the mining part of it is really lame. To me, it just sounds like a clusterfuck of bitcoin buzzwords. Either the VCs have been fooled, or there is a dimension to this that is still a secret. Based on the story of 21 Inc so far my guess is your line... To me, it just sounds like a clusterfuck of bitcoin buzzwords. Either the VCs have been fooled....
...is the reality of the situation. I think these guys are riding a bitcoin VC feeding frenzy but lack clear strategy or understanding. If you haven't already heard this podcast from 13th Sep, have a listen to Chris Derose and Joshua Unseth's take on what 21 Inc are doing; I think it's very very funny. Go to time 15:05 in episode #16 of the Counterparty weekly update for a hilarious take on the whole thing. https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/xcp-weekly-update-16-joel-and-thomas-from-swarm |
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September 22, 2015, 11:01:34 PM |
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21 inc are either geniuses so far ahead of the curve we can't even see it, or goats enjoying splurging a fuck ton of money on convoluted junk. I very much look forward to finding out which they are and hopefully we'll know soon.
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September 22, 2015, 11:02:32 PM |
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Andre#
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September 22, 2015, 11:08:49 PM |
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Nobody here sees the potential of 21 Inc's platform? What Google did for making money with websites (generate revenue with ads), 21 Inc may do for making money with web-services (generate revenue with pay-per-use). I.e. 21 Inc might be the next Google. Guess what that will do for Bitcoin... I don't see the potential. You don't need special chips or computers to do micro payments. As a charity node, a standard Raspberry Pi 2 is cheaper. And the mining part of it is really lame. To me, it just sounds like a clusterfuck of bitcoin buzzwords. Either the VCs have been fooled, or there is a dimension to this that is still a secret. Indeed, this HW doesn't do anything that isn't already possible. Just like the first webserver didn't do anything that wasn't already possible (publish some text over the Internet -- you could also just download files instead). But it did make it very easy. Google turned website into something that you can make money with on a per-use basis. The revenue model of 21 Inc may turn webservices also into something you can make money with on a per-use basis. It may take some time to convince developers to start creating services using their platform/API, but nothing similar exists, yet. A webserver (Apache) is software, not hardware. I made a micro payment solution for web content via sms payments in 2001. Micropayments is not a new revenue model. Bitcoin can make this happen in a big way. ChangeTip is leading the way right now. I first wanted to write an elaborate answer. Then I saw this blog. https://elux.svbtle.com/the-21-inc-computer-is-the-new-altair-8800I have nothing more to add. |
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September 22, 2015, 11:24:03 PM |
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It’s a devkit for future devices which would have native Bitcoin support (wallets & coin-generation) for identification (private keys), and micro-transactions. Well whatever the hell it does, good luck to 'em. |
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Norway
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September 22, 2015, 11:28:54 PM |
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Nobody here sees the potential of 21 Inc's platform? What Google did for making money with websites (generate revenue with ads), 21 Inc may do for making money with web-services (generate revenue with pay-per-use). I.e. 21 Inc might be the next Google. Guess what that will do for Bitcoin... I don't see the potential. You don't need special chips or computers to do micro payments. As a charity node, a standard Raspberry Pi 2 is cheaper. And the mining part of it is really lame. To me, it just sounds like a clusterfuck of bitcoin buzzwords. Either the VCs have been fooled, or there is a dimension to this that is still a secret. Indeed, this HW doesn't do anything that isn't already possible. Just like the first webserver didn't do anything that wasn't already possible (publish some text over the Internet -- you could also just download files instead). But it did make it very easy. Google turned website into something that you can make money with on a per-use basis. The revenue model of 21 Inc may turn webservices also into something you can make money with on a per-use basis. It may take some time to convince developers to start creating services using their platform/API, but nothing similar exists, yet. A webserver (Apache) is software, not hardware. I made a micro payment solution for web content via sms payments in 2001. Micropayments is not a new revenue model. Bitcoin can make this happen in a big way. ChangeTip is leading the way right now. I first wanted to write an elaborate answer. Then I saw this blog. https://elux.svbtle.com/the-21-inc-computer-is-the-new-altair-8800I have nothing more to add. The article sums it up in the begining: 21 Inc's computer is "A $400 glorified Raspberry Pi with a shitty mining chip glued on top." And Altair 8800 was never as important as TI994A, Oric 1, Osborne 1, ZX 80/81/Spectrum/QL or VIC20/Commodore 64. |
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September 22, 2015, 11:37:48 PM
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Nobody here sees the potential of 21 Inc's platform? What Google did for making money with websites (generate revenue with ads), 21 Inc may do for making money with web-services (generate revenue with pay-per-use). I.e. 21 Inc might be the next Google. Guess what that will do for Bitcoin... I don't see the potential. You don't need special chips or computers to do micro payments. As a charity node, a standard Raspberry Pi 2 is cheaper. And the mining part of it is really lame. To me, it just sounds like a clusterfuck of bitcoin buzzwords. Either the VCs have been fooled, or there is a dimension to this that is still a secret. Indeed, this HW doesn't do anything that isn't already possible. Just like the first webserver didn't do anything that wasn't already possible (publish some text over the Internet -- you could also just download files instead). But it did make it very easy. Google turned website into something that you can make money with on a per-use basis. The revenue model of 21 Inc may turn webservices also into something you can make money with on a per-use basis. It may take some time to convince developers to start creating services using their platform/API, but nothing similar exists, yet. A webserver (Apache) is software, not hardware. I made a micro payment solution for web content via sms payments in 2001. Micropayments is not a new revenue model. Bitcoin can make this happen in a big way. ChangeTip is leading the way right now. I first wanted to write an elaborate answer. Then I saw this blog. https://elux.svbtle.com/the-21-inc-computer-is-the-new-altair-8800I have nothing more to add. I find that article to be as ambiguous as 12 Inc's strategy! It seems to criss-cross itself and I don't know whether it's positive towards what 21 Inc are doing or negative (or it's just sidelined their device altogether and gone on to talk about how this concept of using bitcoin in ecommerce to remove the need for identity is the real innovation). As the previous poster just noted, this opening... So, 21 Inc. finally unveiled their first product yesterday.
A $400 glorified Raspberry Pi with a shitty mining chip glued on top.
...seems to be very negative. Then this bit... Today, content on the internet is powered by advertising. Because we lack microtransactions. Google & Facebook & Twitter are advertising companies. 21 aims to change that. The internet runs on advertising. 21 aims to change that.
Now, link unforgeable bitcoin private keys with biometric identification.
You just killed:
Passwords…
sign-ups…
e-mail confirmation…
login screens
This would remove a ton of hassle and frustration from the whole online experience.
...seems to be giving them the thumbs up. Then this bit at the end... Why can’t you preload the 21 device? Because you don’t kill identity-theft if you bought the micro-bitcoins from someone else, instead of generating them yourself.
....is the epitome of ambiguity! That's what I find so often with hyperbole of a major "release" of products like this; a following that's just as confused and unclear. |
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