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[JayJuanGee]

4. I think Gavin et al are victims of another scam, and Wright’s done classic misdirection by generating different scams for different audiences.
 

I would not characterize Gavin as a victim... .

For some reason, the way that this scenario is playing out, Gavin seems to be lacking good judgment and is coming across as wanting to be scammed.

Whatever the reason(s) why Gavin believes in Wright might be, I don't believe in bad intentions. And he has (had) to handle more impressions and informations then the rest of us, also more subjective information (direct communication) etc. And the situation with Wright most likely was convincing.

With other words: I don't blame him for believing it. What I see as a mistake is that he (Gavin) wrote a blogpost. That was premature and I'm sure he regrets it.

There's nothing wrong with giving the benefit of the doubt a few times; however, over and over, Gavin has been showing himself to be exercising extremely poor judgement... In that regard, some assignment of malevolence may be necessary, yet I understand that each of us may need to come to such conclusions ourselves   - nonetheless, I stick to my earlier assertion that characterizing him as a victim doesn't seem to capture this situation very well, especially the more that we consider these particular circumstances.

[adamstgBit]

There are many reasons he may not want to post proof for you to verify, not the least of which is you constantly moving the goal posts.

Feel free to browse my extensive post history. I was posting here when Satoshi was still active. The goal posts have never moved. Sign a genesis block msg. Trivial for Satoshi to do and *everyone* can verify it.

what reason could there possibly be keeping him from publishing a signed message? apart from he being not SN obv.

he lost the keys?
its official.
satoshi lost the keys to most of his bitcoins mined in the early days

buy Buy BUY!!!!!

[tempus]

Whatever the reason(s) why Gavin believes in Wright might be, I don't believe in bad intentions. And he has (had) to handle more impressions and informations then the rest of us, also more subjective information (direct communication) etc. And the situation with Wright most likely was convincing.

With other words: I don't blame him for believing it. What I see as a mistake is that he (Gavin) wrote a blogpost. That was premature and I'm sure he regrets it.

No, it isn't just an example of a simple mistake , but gross negligence with extreme levels of credulity after a great amount of evidence discrediting Wright from last year, now more evidence from many different sources discrediting wright further with clear explanations on how and why Craig Wright is a likely fraud and at minimum lying with evidence provided.... and after all this Gavin still suggests he believes CW is Satoshi. This is far beyond any mistake , and raises some serious questions to either his competence or authenticity. Either way, both classic and core should permanently revoke his commit access.

I'll wait for the next days to see if G.A. distances himself from his post and gives further explanations. For now I think it's a wild mixture of impressions and a more psychological not-easy-situation. Can't explain precise what I want to say in english.

But in general my opinion is: Gavin did a lot for Bitcoin and I never had any doubts about his integrity. In this case he was too credulous and with a lack of professionalism. But: Bitcoin is not a company, G.A. is no "CEO", everybody is free to believe and free to say his opinion and also to change an opinion. And I believe that will happen if Wright doesn't show real proof for the public.

[finkelsteinMonster]

No, it isn't just an example of a simple mistake , but gross negligence with extreme levels of credulity after a great amount of evidence discrediting Wright from last year, now more evidence from many different sources discrediting wright further with clear explanations on how and why Craig Wright is a likely fraud and at minimum lying with evidence provided.... and after all this Gavin still suggests he believes CW is Satoshi. This is far beyond any mistake , and raises some serious questions to either his competence or authenticity. Either way, both classic and core should permanently revoke his commit access.

Yes yes! Gross negligence with extreme levels of credulity.  Raises some serious questions, it do!

[Mrpumperitis]

wright is NOT satoshi...100% bullshit, if im wrong ill dump all my BTC forever 

[Ted E. Bare]

I can no longer bear all this Wright talk. He is a fraud.

[belmonty]

Whatever the reason(s) why Gavin believes in Wright might be, I don't believe in bad intentions. And he has (had) to handle more impressions and informations then the rest of us, also more subjective information (direct communication) etc. And the situation with Wright most likely was convincing.

With other words: I don't blame him for believing it. What I see as a mistake is that he (Gavin) wrote a blogpost. That was premature and I'm sure he regrets it.

No, it isn't just an example of a simple mistake , but gross negligence with extreme levels of credulity after a great amount of evidence discrediting Wright from last year, now more evidence from many different sources discrediting wright further with clear explanations on how and why Craig Wright is a likely fraud and at minimum lying with evidence provided.... and after all this Gavin still suggests he believes CW is Satoshi. This is far beyond any mistake , and raises some serious questions to either his competence or authenticity. Either way, both classic and core should permanently revoke his commit access.

I'll wait for the next days to see if G.A. distances himself from his post and gives further explanations.

...

I'll give it a few days until the dust settles too. If Wright hasn't signed a message by then Gavin's reputation will be destroyed.

Do you remember that guy who moved coins mined in 2009 last year, and we all thought he was Satoshi? He signed a message on reddit saying "It was me" to prove he controlled those coins, then denied he was Satoshi. I'd be more inclined to believe he was Satoshi than Wright unless Wright signs a message like him.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ln77n/coinbases_from_feb_3_2009_just_moved_for_the/cv7pyra

btcthwy 30 points 7 months ago

"It was me 20/9/2015" IC8oSnQ+CNMhqDYu7hTQXb+kvrbu/r3EXjiLjLvFIsQuDlxUSqXWZj7TRiLcLnmT+ErjgjOr7dVRC/GB47IKYk0=

I want to be able to sign coinbase transactions (you must possess the private key to be able to transact), but is not an option in bitcoin-qt

[–]chinawat 19 points 7 months ago

Excellent. Verifies for me with address:
1HUidFPHZ7cJ6WYmR8nMPQCmmE3mbVKYjM

Congrats on being a true Bitcoin elder. Enjoy those satoshis!

[ImI]

wright is NOT satoshi...100% bullshit, if im wrong ill dump all my BTC forever 

quoted for evidence 

[Mrpumperitis]

wright is NOT satoshi...100% bullshit, if im wrong ill dump all my BTC forever  

quoted for evidence  

double quoted , lol
what do u think...wright is satoshi? lol

[SheHadMANHands]

hidden gem of enlightenment?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hflr3/craig_wrights_signature_is_worthless/d2pm2rc

on one side, you have Gavin's subjective account.  on the other side, a mounting stack of evidence hinting at the contrary.     

[ImI]

wright is NOT satoshi...100% bullshit, if im wrong ill dump all my BTC forever  

quoted for evidence  

double quoted , lol
what do u think...wright is satoshi? lol

yes

[SheHadMANHands]

this post is stolen from another individual (from a post years ago)!
http://www.drcraigwright.net/generating-bitcoin-address/

seems like satoshi   

[yefi]

I think only Barbara Woodhouse had the chops for this type of thing and she's now no longer with us.

"Choke chain is a misnomer, they are always breathing." 

This James Randi, isn't he a typical Canadian drunk that snuck into our country? The sort of parasitic filth President Trump is gonna send back to that God-forsaken frozen wilderness from whence it came?

I bet that timberland savage don't even have no master's, no wonder he hates smart people so much.

Sure, the first time he was put on stage, he took an axe to it thinking it was firewood, but he's progressed magnificently since. Soon he may not even use a moose for transport.

[road to morocco]

~ Basso profondo ~                  CCMF!
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[Alley]

First of many stories to come before the halving g designed to keep price down.

[yefi]

wright is NOT satoshi...100% bullshit, if im wrong ill dump all my BTC forever  

quoted for evidence  

double quoted , lol
what do u think...wright is satoshi? lol

yes

* yefi puts on his gorilla suit

If he publicly and verifiably signs a message from the genesis block, I'll give your newbie butt 1 shiny bitcoin. Quote it.

[Blacula X]

First of many stories to come before the halving g designed to keep price down.

Serious (compound) question: Who are They, why do They want to keep the price down before the halving, and are They gonna keep holding it down after the halving too?

[Mrpumperitis]

wright is NOT satoshi...100% bullshit, if im wrong ill dump all my BTC forever  

quoted for evidence  

double quoted , lol
what do u think...wright is satoshi? lol

yes

* yefi puts on his gorilla suit

If he publicly and verifiably signs a message from the genesis block, I'll give your newbie butt 1 shiny bitcoin. Quote it.

i wonder if hes willing to offer the same if hes wrong? lol

I think this is Gavs crews last attempt at a coup
i watched his bbc interview...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DCAC1j2HTY  made me LOL

[Mrpumperitis]

First of many stories to come before the halving g designed to keep price down.

Serious question: Who are They, why do They want to keep the price down before the halving, and are They gonna keep holding it down after the halving too?

muaahaaa haaa , we are all they...we want all the coins....we will keep it down for as long as it takes....muahaaahaa   

[r0ach]

Who is to say the creator of the genesis block longest chain longest thread on Bitcointalk isn't Satoshi...