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May 05, 2016, 06:43:57 AM



anyway hope he is not Satoshi...he seems a couple BTC's short of a block Smiley




Fucking Splendid commentary...


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May 05, 2016, 06:45:34 AM

A few Satoshi's short of a Block.. the poor lad is smoking the wrong Hash  Grin
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May 05, 2016, 07:29:08 AM

Here is another weird Craig Wright issue that I've been mulling over. 

Back in November, so-called @BitcoinBelle moderated a so called "All-Star Panel" at a bitcoin conference, that included Ed Moy, Joseph VaughnPerling, Trace Mayer, Nick Szabo, and good old Craig Wright.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdvQTwjVmrE

This was shortly before the so-called leak of Craig being SN.  At the time, Craig was not well known in the bitcoin panelist world, and did seem to stand out as being less of an "All-Star" than others.  (Szabo in particular seemed to think he was a a fool).

When the Craig / SN "leak" surfaced shortly thereafter, many wondered why Craig was at the meeting, and whether @bitcoinbelle was involved in some way.  (And note that my comment describing the ATO tax credit fraud angle on Craig was in that chain, which to toot my own horn, was one of the earlier detailed articulations of this theory, as far as I know.)  https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3w9xec/just_think_we_deserve_an_explanation_of_how_craig/

Now, from looking at more recent tweets by @bitcoinbelle, we see an interesting exchange between her and Joseph VaughPerling.  https://twitter.com/BitcoinBelle/status/727470504932720640

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Steve ‏@MrHodl  May 3
@BitcoinBelle @01101O10 @iang_fc @haq4good JVP, supposedly met Satoshi in 2005 and has his picture. I'm sorry but I call bullshit

JVP = Joseph VaughnPerling = @haq4good

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@MrHodl @01101O10 @iang_fc @haq4good told me that almost a year ago so I invited him to be on the panel. Figured he'd recognize his voice.

And then:  https://twitter.com/BitcoinBelle/status/727207098442993665

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@haq4good @dakami You told me that you spoke to Satoshi many years ago and that he was definitely not Craig. What changed your mind?

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JVP ‏@haq4good  May 2
@BitcoinBelle @dakami A closer look at his face.

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DI$RUPTIV3 ‏@BitcoinBelle  May 2
@haq4good @dakami Huh Well you had that chance at the panel and insisted his voice was not the same either. Regardless, you lied then or now

So, the sequence seems to be that @bitcoinbelle was instrumental in getting Craig into that panel.  Part of the motivation was to put JVP and Craig in the same room, probably because Craig had intimated to her that he was SN and a "leak" was imminent.  JVP initially denied that Craig was SN, and later changed his tune.

JVP could have denied the connection because he was keeping SN / Craig's identity secret.  Or, maybe JVP really didn't connect Craig with SN, but later had some reason to support the Craig = SN story for unknown, and possibly suspect reasons.

And, FWIW, @bitcoinbelle currently seems to think that Craig is a fraud.  She claims he hacked her twitter, and that he turned kind of pervy on her.  https://twitter.com/BitcoinBelle/status/727336811899543553  https://twitter.com/BitcoinBelle/status/727346525106491392

I don't really know what to make of this, but on the off chance that people on this board know more about the character and motivations of some of the people involved, I throw it out there.

(Also, I'm not sure exactly how twitter links function, you may have to click "viewconversation" on the links I provided to see the back and forth).


Yeah...   Wright's participation on that panel was a bit awkward with his initially vague introduction that included a lot of credentialing and lack of specifics regarding what he did and does, and then his theorizing about bitcoin and how everyone is getting it wrong without anyone really knowing who he is.  And, then finally his biggestdickus references to his supposed ownership and/or control over the world's largest supercomputer and without any real specifics about why such a computer is needed ... except maybe the inference of needed for use in scams... hahahaha
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May 05, 2016, 07:35:42 AM

>460 by tomorrow afternoon


I would be really skeptical of that price estimate, but if there is more data to back that up then be my guest.

The price doesn't look like it is moving at all, and there seems to be absolutely zero momentum with the value to crank it above $455 by tomorrow.

If the price can move above $460 in the next week or so, I'd be surprised. There is nothing at all to move the price.

Well?Huh??


Hopefully at some point the reverse Adam indicator will be broken... usually the more certain that he commits to a position, the more certain that we are going to experience the exact opposite, which in this case would take us below the mid $430s.. I hope not because I am also anxious to revisit the upper $460s, and I think it is about time to experience such a revisit.... on the other hand, I think that we may not yet be ready to break $475... but I would be pleasantly surprised if such breaking of $475 occurs in the coming weeks.
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May 05, 2016, 08:16:28 AM

Crazy theory:  Satoshi was Kleiman + Wright + Szabo (others?).

Szabo wrote the paper.

this is Satoshi  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtdE7P1VjrM
the apple fell and hit his head and BOOM it all made sense.
everyone else just helped make this idea a reality.
by that standard its impossible to ever prove who had that lightbulb moment.  
short of this i think we can label anyone that took a big roll in bitcoins initial dev. as Satoshi  
so yes Satoshi  was Kleiman + Wright + Szabo (others?).


Very good point...   lightbulb idea verses actual implementation.   Grin Grin

To me Satoshi is the one who kept mining all the coins when everyone else thought Bitcoin was a joke that would never work. Despair for the project reached such high levels that Satoshi stopped posting here for months, but he kept on mining.

By January 01, 2010 there were only 21 users registered here, which shows how small the community was. AgoraMutual was number 21 to register, and looking at his profile he was trying to sell Oil and Lube.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=21

With a fancy website, too.
https://web.archive.org/web/20110202024546/http://onsiteoilandlube.com/
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May 05, 2016, 11:13:21 AM


As this sort of is my spiritual home I'll post this regarding CW/SN here as well:



A WO-thread buddy of mine shared an interesting point:

This is how Satoshi Nakamoto would have to reveal himself in order to not risk breaking Bitcoin or causing market disruptions.

* First you contact people you know you can prove it to, make them sign an NDA and keep 100% control of the process.

* Release the claim along with confirmations from these trusted parties.

* Provide confusing proof to the public to soften the blow.

* Let time pass.

* Gradually provide more convincing proof to the public.


With that in mind it would probably be wise to keep from going apeshit on forums before we know more.
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Your second link notes the claim was retracted by the researchers.

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"It had just been brought to our attention that Dustin D. Trammell had published a post at http://blog.dustintrammell.com/2013/11/26/i-am-not-satoshi/ in which he details his very early association with the bitcoin scheme, states that he is the owner of the account which received some of the first batches of mined bitcoins, and describes how he deposited  them into his account at MtGox from which they found their way in a few short hops and without his involvement into DPR's account. We find this post completely believable, and thus we no longer believe that the very early Founder account we identified in the full  bitcoin transaction graph belongs to Satoshi Nakamoto. We will revise our paper accordingly."

http://www.businessinsider.com/silk-road-satoshi-paper-retraction-2013-11
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May 05, 2016, 12:19:36 PM

As we flatline for a little while and the blocksize "debate" has abated I guess we are lucky to have something else to talk about Grin

At least a technically clueless person like me might actually learn something.


In other news: I know of a bridge for sale that is a good deal as it has stood the test of time Wink
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May 05, 2016, 12:46:54 PM

We have a wedge that is closing in on the 7th.

Tomorrow is Friday which is when my bitwage check goes through which it seems like every day I get paid the price goes up before I get paid.

So it is likely that we will break out of the wedge on the upside on Friday.
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May 05, 2016, 12:57:54 PM

As we flatline for a little while and the blocksize "debate" has abated I guess we are lucky to have something else to talk about Grin

At least a technically clueless person like me might actually learn something.


In other news: I know of a bridge for sale that is a good deal as it has stood the test of time Wink

If it's a one-way, one-lane bridge, I'm all in!
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May 05, 2016, 01:23:30 PM

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I'm Sorry.

I believed that I could do this.  I believed that I could put the years of anonymity and hiding behind me.  But, as the events of this week unfolded and I prepared to publish the proof of access to the earliest keys, I broke. I do not have the courage. I cannot.

When the rumors began, my qualifications and character were attacked. When those allegations were proven false, new allegations have already begun. I know now that I am not strong enough for this.

I know that this weakness will cause great damage to those that have supported me, and particularly to Jon Matonis and Gavin Andresen.  I can only hope that their honour and credibility is not irreparably tainted by my actions.  They were not deceived, but I know that the world will never believe that now. I can only say I'm sorry.

And goodbye.

http://www.drcraigwright.net/homepage.jpg
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http://www.drcraigwright.net/homepage.jpg

It's a brand new domain which could belong to anyone?
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May 05, 2016, 01:41:55 PM

I thought you guys would love to chit chat about these claims:

https://www.dollarvigilante.com/blog/2016/05/05/im-starting-think-cia-developed-bitcoin-still-love.html
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May 05, 2016, 01:50:54 PM

AAAAANNNNNNDDDDD   scene
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http://www.drcraigwright.net/homepage.jpg

It's a brand new domain which could belong to anyone?

He made his announcement from that site.
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May 05, 2016, 01:53:52 PM

This guy could pump bitcoin to the moon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CKkR_8UFNM
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May 05, 2016, 01:56:41 PM

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I'm Sorry.

I believed that I could do this.  I believed that I could put the years of anonymity and hiding behind me.  But, as the events of this week unfolded and I prepared to publish the proof of access to the earliest keys, I broke. I do not have the courage. I cannot.

When the rumors began, my qualifications and character were attacked. When those allegations were proven false, new allegations have already begun. I know now that I am not strong enough for this.

I know that this weakness will cause great damage to those that have supported me, and particularly to Jon Matonis and Gavin Andresen.  I can only hope that their honour and credibility is not irreparably tainted by my actions.  They were not deceived, but I know that the world will never believe that now. I can only say I'm sorry.

And goodbye.

http://www.drcraigwright.net/homepage.jpg

No-one ever saw this coming  Roll Eyes
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May 05, 2016, 01:58:20 PM

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http://www.drcraigwright.net/homepage.jpg

It's a brand new domain which could belong to anyone?

He made his announcement from that site.

Good that this is over now.
But I doubt the market will show any reaction due to that.  Cry
A small upwards run would be nice.
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May 05, 2016, 01:59:04 PM

AAAAANNNNNNDDDDD   scene
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http://www.drcraigwright.net/homepage.jpg

It's a brand new domain which could belong to anyone?

He made his announcement from that site.

You sure it was *HE* who made the announcement from that site? Bitcoin is a world of intrigue and subterfuge...



http://drcraigwright.com/ Cheesy
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May 05, 2016, 02:12:55 PM

AAAAANNNNNNDDDDD   scene
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http://www.drcraigwright.net/homepage.jpg

It's a brand new domain which could belong to anyone?

He made his announcement from that site.

You sure it was *HE* who made the announcement from that site? Bitcoin is a world of intrigue and subterfuge...



http://drcraigwright.com/ Cheesy

There is a BBC article highliting that the proof process was "put on hold"
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May 05, 2016, 02:28:30 PM

Google confirms it's the right domain where his blog posts were:

Jean-Paul Sartre, Signing and Significance - Dr. Craig Wright Blog
www.drcraigwright.net/jean-paul-sartre-signing-significance/
3 days ago - Dr. Craig Wright explains the process of verifying a set of cryptographic keys.

Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Proof - Dr. Craig Wright Blog
www.drcraigwright.net/extraordinary-claims-require-extraordinary-proof/
2 days ago - Yesterday, Andreas Antonopoulos posted a fantastic piece on Reddit. Andreas said something critically important and it bears repeating: “I ...
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