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[Fakhoury]

Can't they bypass USA regulatory resistance and go to the UK -or elsewhere- to launch the ETF?

If an ETF wants to do business with customers in the USA it has to go through the USA regulatory procedure. There were offshore internet gambling sites that thought they could do business with customers in the USA without fear of legal action from the USA government. Most of them eventually got taken down by the USA government, and the owners were prosecuted.

The US govvy 'protects' its tax cattle herd very jealously, the more than 4000 citizens per annum trying to leave have to dump their passports http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/08/news/americans-citizenship-renunciation/index.html and have to pay huge amounts of money and now IRS is actively stopping them from leaving by removing passports http://www.naturalnews.com/052138_IRS_US_passports_travel_restrictions.html

So the COIN ETF could take a decade for example ?

[AlexGR]

Can't they bypass USA regulatory resistance and go to the UK -or elsewhere- to launch the ETF?

If an ETF wants to do business with customers in the USA it has to go through the USA regulatory procedure.

Let's say I launch an ETF in London. You live in the States. Can you create an "investment company" in the UK which then buys from my ETF in London?

Can US law get involved with the internal processes of a company that operates abroad? Shouldn't the regulatory barrier extend only up to the level where you own the shares to your company and get profits or added value which might be taxable in the States?

[Fakhoury]

Can't they bypass USA regulatory resistance and go to the UK -or elsewhere- to launch the ETF?

If an ETF wants to do business with customers in the USA it has to go through the USA regulatory procedure.

Let's say I launch an ETF in London. You live in the States. Can you create an "investment company" in the UK which then buys from my ETF in London?

Can US law get involved with the internal processes of a company that operates abroad? Shouldn't the regulatory barrier extend only up to the level where you own the shares to your company and get profits or added value which might be taxable in the States?

I think yes, see what happened with LR (Liberty Reserve).

[Ultrafinery]

Old man lyin' by the side of the road
Where the lorries rollin' by
Blue moon sinkin' from the weight of the load
And the buildings scrape the sky
Cold wind rippin' on the valley at dawn
And the morning paper flies
Dead man lyin' by the side of the road
With the daylight in his eyes
Don't let it bring you down
It's only castle's burning
Find someone who's turning
And you will come around

Will 450 hodl?

[defined]

Poll:  60 (65.2%) think bitcoin will break 480$ end of May. I hope it will reach it.

[nioc]

Old man lyin' by the side of the road
Where the lorries rollin' by
Blue moon sinkin' from the weight of the load
And the buildings scrape the sky
Cold wind rippin' on the valley at dawn
And the morning paper flies
Dead man lyin' by the side of the road
With the daylight in his eyes
Don't let it bring you down
It's only castle's burning
Find someone who's turning
And you will come around

Will 450 hodl?

The partial lyrics you give are slightly off but anyway, thank you.  Who cares about 450.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7letrMf_nE

[Searing]

Poll:  60 (65.2%) think bitcoin will break 480$ end of May. I hope it will reach it.

yeah 500 usd would be nice indeed.....I keep creeping up to 100 btc then I blow money on more miner crap...keeps slipping away....

(now back to 95 btc again)

yo/yo

but anyway the goal is 100 btc then the REST will pay down my equip debt till they doorstop...thus I can say I have 100 btc with XXX
invested (ouch) and instead say I have YYY invested (yea!) when the miners meet their doom as 'doorstops'

(mining with KNC Titans LTC still profitable at 14c kwh ...hard to believe but true)

but 500 usd .....would 'stoke' my feeble illusion and hope that 1000 usd btc is 'just around the corner' or in crypto BTC speak "Two more weeks" (tm BFL)

[Fakhoury]

Poll:  60 (65.2%) think bitcoin will break 480$ end of May. I hope it will reach it.

yeah 500 usd would be nice indeed.....I keep creeping up to 100 btc then I blow money on more miner crap...keeps slipping away....

(now back to 95 btc again)

yo/yo

but anyway the goal is 100 btc then the REST will pay down my equip debt till they doorstop...thus I can say I have 100 btc with XXX
invested (ouch) and instead say I have YYY invested (yea!) when the miners meet their doom as 'doorstops'

(mining with KNC Titans LTC still profitable at 14c kwh ...hard to believe but true)

but 500 usd .....would 'stoke' my feeble illusion and hope that 1000 usd btc is 'just around the corner' or in crypto BTC speak "Two more weeks" (tm BFL)

Huge amount of BTC you've here mate, bravo

My goal is 210 BTC but still I'm in the way to 100 BTC.

I've a HUGE debit from my father that I'm waiting for to be paid, I will this fiat directly to my bank and make a bank transfer ny exchange, buy at near market price, and send the coins to my wallet

I like and enjoy long-term investing, specially when you are young (I'm 26).

Keep stashing while you are young and working, to enjoy a beautiful future and youth in your mid 30's

[Meuh6879]

Will 450 hodl?

Yes.

http://thehalvening.com/



Because we have already build the rocket ... and the launcher, too.

Need fuel, now.

 

[Ultrafinery]

Old man lyin' by the side of the road
Where the lorries rollin' by
Blue moon sinkin' from the weight of the load
And the buildings scrape the sky
Cold wind rippin' on the valley at dawn
And the morning paper flies
Dead man lyin' by the side of the road
With the daylight in his eyes
Don't let it bring you down
It's only castle's burning
Find someone who's turning
And you will come around

Will 450 hodl?

The partial lyrics you give are slightly off but anyway, thank you.  Who cares about 450.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7letrMf_nE

Gah! Serves me right for ctrl-c/ctrl-v, I usually proof. Thanks, Google

P.S. WTF is Annie Lennox?!

[Ultrafinery]

Will 450 hodl?

Yes.

http://thehalvening.com/

 

Because we have already build the rocket ... and the launcher, too.

Need fuel, now.

 

To infinity, and beyond!

[adamstgBit]

Will 450 hodl?

Yes.

http://thehalvening.com/

 

Because we have already build the rocket ... and the launcher, too.

Need fuel, now.

 

To infinity, and beyond!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcaEwqlExYk

[JimboToronto]

Good Morning Bitcoinland. Still hovering around $460.

I don't mind a little sideways if it means coiling for the next move up.

[adamstgBit]

charts looking good. looks like it was fairly easy for market to bounce back to 460. as it should be.
we must be bold!
target 3200$

also take a look at this video its pretty good, best part:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7I92r9GqUw&feature=youtu.be&t=4m28s

[nioc]

Gah! Serves me right for ctrl-c/ctrl-v, I usually proof. Thanks, Google

P.S. WTF is Annie Lennox?!

Good performer that did a cover, sux compared to Neil.  

[nioc]

its going to 520 with 2 legs up in <48hours.

i can FEEL IT!

shits about to get real.

buy Buy BUY!!!!!!!!

Oh boy you can FEEL IT

As I am highly sugestive I bought just after your post.  That makes it 11 of the last 15 days.  As my daily/weekly limits are small that's how I have to do it.  Also good for dollar cost averaging if that even matters.

Adam what sort of guarantee does the $520 in under 48hours have?  Oh wait it doesn't say $520 it says 520.  I guess like many people I am gullible

yes i can FEEEEEEL it.

yes i meant 520$ < 48hours

100% guarantee!
if your not happy with the price incress that fallows
or you no longer want your bitcoin for WHATEVER reason
you can send your bitcoins back for a full refund at current market price
a small trading fee may apply

Glad this came with a guarantee, the price incress was indeed fallow.

[inca]

Coiling for a big move again. Could it be up this time? If we breach 471 then FOMO buying should guide us up to retest 500, after which all bets are off. Or more disappointment.

Either way after the Halving that invisible reduction in supply should help to put a base under the price going forward.

[Ultrafinery]

Will 450 hodl?

Yes.

http://thehalvening.com/

 

Because we have already build the rocket ... and the launcher, too.

Need fuel, now.

 

To infinity, and beyond!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcaEwqlExYk

https://youtu.be/zfB43tjxB64

[DaRude]

Can't they bypass USA regulatory resistance and go to the UK -or elsewhere- to launch the ETF?

If an ETF wants to do business with customers in the USA it has to go through the USA regulatory procedure.

Let's say I launch an ETF in London. You live in the States. Can you create an "investment company" in the UK which then buys from my ETF in London?

Can US law get involved with the internal processes of a company that operates abroad? Shouldn't the regulatory barrier extend only up to the level where you own the shares to your company and get profits or added value which might be taxable in the States?

Sure can, but you're limiting your owner base if you have no exposure in US, and thats where a lot of money is. So most will list on US exchanges, or do an ADR  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Depositary_Receipt then it's a fair game for US law.

[Mrpumperitis]

ive said this many times, halving is priced in, those that want to buy already have. There is not enough buy support to maintain a pump. Theres waaaay to many people hoping to dump on noobs at $600+...problem is even the noobs now use google and have access to a wealth of information unlike 2013 when everybody was a noob,lol.
BTC is gonna dump real hard in the next month or so..probably back to $300s over summer...then watch out for oct ( good times begin again)
BTC will pump but only after the scalabilty issue is solved ( cmon dr wright, make that super computer do sum magic ) 2017 btc will be $1k+