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October 25, 2017, 09:37:50 AM |
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Quite frankly, we know nearly nothing about gays. Why do you exist? What is the evolutionary benefit? How do you interact with women compared to normal men? Little to no research is being done in this area, because it is not politically correct.
Your experience is not normal, because you are not the norm.
Not sure how to do research on this without it being hopelessly tainted by ideology. Exactly the problem, yes. One often used option is to study animals first. Here's my take:
In a symbol-manipulating and culture-producing species, homosexuals fulfill the function of outliers not bound by responsibilities of family and to a certain degree free from regular societal norms and expectations. As such they are in a position to dedicate themselves to niche endeavors which may have no immediate useful function for society, but contribute to the experimentation and innovation which keep human culture evolving and adapting. They are often able to take bigger risks and pursue less profitable career-paths compared to heterosexual people with a family. Having children/spouses be dependent on your income makes you more conservative in taking risks and experimenting with your perceived role in society. Thus you can find many homosexuals in fields which demand extreme immersion and individuality of thinking in order to produce results: art and science.
Anyway it's probably best to ask some gay people what they think about all this.
That's not an unreasonable hypothesis, but humans evolved in tribes where no one man is indispensable. That's why women have the hypergamous instinct, in the event that one man dies (or they simply tire of him) they can move in with another. The christian missionaries in the new world did not like this part of native culture at all but it is how things work in tribal life. And it doesn't explain why homosexuality exists in animals. |
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October 25, 2017, 09:43:59 AM |
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BTG is trading at 0.039 BTC on hitbtc.com  It should be 0. I don't see the value proposition with this one..... |
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BlindMayorBitcorn
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October 25, 2017, 09:46:05 AM |
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BTG is trading at 0.039 BTC on hitbtc.com It should be 0. I don't see the value proposition with this one..... It's all over the map. .02 on Bitfinex, .048 on Yobit... |
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Elwar
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Viva Ut Vivas
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October 25, 2017, 09:51:56 AM |
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BTG is trading at 0.039 BTC on hitbtc.com It should be 0. I don't see the value proposition with this one..... Exchanges are probably given a percentage of the coins to put on their exchange along with the founders adding some coins for liquidity. This gives it a price as people trade them for bitcoins slowly eating them up. |
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October 25, 2017, 09:55:57 AM |
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4k? That's pretty pessimistic. I think I'll give up watching the price for a while until this blows over.
 I did vote for $5k < > $5,5k by the end of the month. But I guess I'l have to vote again the same for the end of next month as well.  I knew there will be some dip in the price of bitcoin but with bitcoin trying to resist the dip. I guess I will go for the $4,500-$5,000 price range till the end of next month. I really hope it sticks over 5000, it's just such a nice number to be set at. Then next month it can go back up a bit moar, next stop 7K! Yes, it a nice number to set at but you misunderstand what I said during the bitcoin gold fork time there will be dip but when it SegWit2x there will be pump in price which there will up and down in price for a chance of new buy before it all bullish next year. |
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Asrael999
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October 25, 2017, 10:29:34 AM |
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Or as this is better described “We got a call from our “shareholders” and are required to do this” |
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pfrtlpfmpf
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October 25, 2017, 10:31:25 AM
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Quite frankly, we know nearly nothing about gays. Why do you exist? What is the evolutionary benefit? How do you interact with women compared to normal men? Little to no research is being done in this area, because it is not politically correct.
Your experience is not normal, because you are not the norm.
Not sure how to do research on this without it being hopelessly tainted by ideology. Exactly the problem, yes. One often used option is to study animals first. Here's my take:
In a symbol-manipulating and culture-producing species, homosexuals fulfill the function of outliers not bound by responsibilities of family and to a certain degree free from regular societal norms and expectations. As such they are in a position to dedicate themselves to niche endeavors which may have no immediate useful function for society, but contribute to the experimentation and innovation which keep human culture evolving and adapting. They are often able to take bigger risks and pursue less profitable career-paths compared to heterosexual people with a family. Having children/spouses be dependent on your income makes you more conservative in taking risks and experimenting with your perceived role in society. Thus you can find many homosexuals in fields which demand extreme immersion and individuality of thinking in order to produce results: art and science.
Anyway it's probably best to ask some gay people what they think about all this.
That's not an unreasonable hypothesis, but humans evolved in tribes where no one man is indispensable. That's why women have the hypergamous instinct, in the event that one man dies (or they simply tire of him) they can move in with another. The christian missionaries in the new world did not like this part of native culture at all but it is how things work in tribal life. And it doesn't explain why homosexuality exists in animals. "hypergamous", i learn a english word every day But you brought it to the point, no denial ! |
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d_eddie
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October 25, 2017, 11:10:50 AM |
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This is strictly OT, but very interesting for me. Not sure how to do research on this without it being hopelessly tainted by ideology. Exactly the problem, yes. One often used option is to study animals first. Here's my take:
In a symbol-manipulating and culture-producing species, homosexuals fulfill the function of outliers not bound by responsibilities of family and to a certain degree free from regular societal norms and expectations. As such they are in a position to dedicate themselves to niche endeavors which may have no immediate useful function for society, but contribute to the experimentation and innovation which keep human culture evolving and adapting. They are often able to take bigger risks and pursue less profitable career-paths compared to heterosexual people with a family. Having children/spouses be dependent on your income makes you more conservative in taking risks and experimenting with your perceived role in society. Thus you can find many homosexuals in fields which demand extreme immersion and individuality of thinking in order to produce results: art and science.
Anyway it's probably best to ask some gay people what they think about all this.
That's not an unreasonable hypothesis, but humans evolved in tribes where no one man is indispensable. That's why women have the hypergamous instinct, in the event that one man dies (or they simply tire of him) they can move in with another. The christian missionaries in the new world did not like this part of native culture at all but it is how things work in tribal life. And it doesn't explain why homosexuality exists in animals. Sexual promiscuity and relative freedom, communal raising of the young, polygamy etc., are believed to be frequent behaviors (common in >50% of communities) in pre-agricultural human societies. The few remaining human communities that are in a pre-agricultural stage (hunters-gatherers) do follow this pattern, as do other social non-human primates (with exceptions). The percentage of communities with such communal sexual behaviour is species-specific. For example, bonobos and common chimpanzees are like this, but other large ape species have different behavior distribution (I'm thinking of mountain gorillas, baboons etc). The theory which is more popular among ethologists and anthropologists is that when agriculture sets in, there is literal and metaphorical fence-building: My land, my harvest, my woman. Don't touch or I'll kill you. Besides, not only the "landlord"'s role (male head of family), but also the female's, becomes harder to replace if it's just the basic couple, rather than the whole village, who must work the crops and the house. So the poetic image that goes along with this theory is that agriculture is the "loss of innocence" landmark for mankind. The pre-agricultural state can then be mythically transfigured into a lost paradise. My personal experience, while not significant statistically, reinforces this myth. I used to have a business in a distant part of the world. There, I befriended many people that have a nomadic (pre-agricultural) history and were forced into "civilization" only a few generations ago. They are different, indeed. The women react very differently. The men react quite differently. The sense of possession is much weaker indeed. The sense of impermanence is palpable. I like that general feeling very much. Of course, with the Internet and globalization reaching every "civilized" human, the dominant mentality quickly takes over. Things are changing fast and even trace amounts of that innocent paradise are being lost and will vanish soon. |
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October 25, 2017, 11:27:27 AM |
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This is strictly OT, but very interesting for me. Not sure how to do research on this without it being hopelessly tainted by ideology. Exactly the problem, yes. One often used option is to study animals first. Here's my take:
In a symbol-manipulating and culture-producing species, homosexuals fulfill the function of outliers not bound by responsibilities of family and to a certain degree free from regular societal norms and expectations. As such they are in a position to dedicate themselves to niche endeavors which may have no immediate useful function for society, but contribute to the experimentation and innovation which keep human culture evolving and adapting. They are often able to take bigger risks and pursue less profitable career-paths compared to heterosexual people with a family. Having children/spouses be dependent on your income makes you more conservative in taking risks and experimenting with your perceived role in society. Thus you can find many homosexuals in fields which demand extreme immersion and individuality of thinking in order to produce results: art and science.
Anyway it's probably best to ask some gay people what they think about all this.
That's not an unreasonable hypothesis, but humans evolved in tribes where no one man is indispensable. That's why women have the hypergamous instinct, in the event that one man dies (or they simply tire of him) they can move in with another. The christian missionaries in the new world did not like this part of native culture at all but it is how things work in tribal life. And it doesn't explain why homosexuality exists in animals. Sexual promiscuity and relative freedom, communal raising of the young, polygamy etc., are believed to be frequent behaviors (common in >50% of communities) in pre-agricultural human societies. The few remaining human communities that are in a pre-agricultural stage (hunters-gatherers) do follow this pattern, as do other social non-human primates (with exceptions). The percentage of communities with such communal sexual behaviour is species-specific. For example, bonobos and common chimpanzees are like this, but other large ape species have different behavior distribution (I'm thinking of mountain gorillas, baboons etc). The theory which is more popular among ethologists and anthropologists is that when agriculture sets in, there is literal and metaphorical fence-building: My land, my harvest, my woman. Don't touch or I'll kill you. Besides, not only the "landlord"'s role (male head of family), but also the female's, becomes harder to replace if it's just the basic couple, rather than the whole village, who must work the crops and the house. So the poetic image that goes along with this theory is that agriculture is the "loss of innocence" landmark for mankind. The pre-agricultural state can then be mythically transfigured into a lost paradise. My personal experience, while not significant statistically, reinforces this myth. I used to have a business in a distant part of the world. There, I befriended many people that have a nomadic (pre-agricultural) history and were forced into "civilization" only a few generations ago. They are different, indeed. The women react very differently. The men react quite differently. The sense of possession is much weaker indeed. The sense of impermanence is palpable. I like that general feeling very much. Of course, with the Internet and globalization reaching every "civilized" human, the dominant mentality quickly takes over. Things are changing fast and even trace amounts of that innocent paradise are being lost and will vanish soon. Wait,wait, i can´t learn so many english words in one day ! |
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October 25, 2017, 12:21:55 PM |
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BTG is trading at 0.039 BTC on hitbtc.com It should be 0. I don't see the value proposition with this one..... Exchanges are probably given a percentage of the coins to put on their exchange along with the founders adding some coins for liquidity. This gives it a price as people trade them for bitcoins slowly eating them up. I agree, those coins must be funded on the exchange sites in order to be traded with a better buy and sell. That's what really affects the price as demand will eventually makes the price to rise even more of its current value, and the proof is now as we see the price of bitcoin surpassed the speculations of $5k and even reached higher up to $6k or even much higher value within several months to come. Whatever new coins to come for now, I think price might be the same with what other coins had gone through for so many trades and high or low fluctuations always showed no differences. |
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leowonderful
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October 25, 2017, 01:23:35 PM |
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BTG will hit 0 soon enough when they actually release the info to access coins on other wallets like Trezor, Electrum, etc. Unless another BCH style pump comes and saves it by the time next week rolls around it’ll be worth a couple dollars. Probably won’t even be worth the time to collect your free BTG by then.
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Goddess78
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October 25, 2017, 01:27:41 PM |
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BTG will hit 0 soon enough when...
If BTG would hit anything ... BTG tokens have not been issued for real for now. If no wallet no chain is published, BTG just have no existence ! |
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jojo69
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October 25, 2017, 01:58:30 PM |
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In a symbol-manipulating and culture-producing species, homosexuals fulfill the function of outliers not bound by responsibilities of family and to a certain degree free from regular societal norms and expectations. As such they are in a position to dedicate themselves to niche endeavors which may have no immediate useful function for society, but contribute to the experimentation and innovation which keep human culture evolving and adapting. They are often able to take bigger risks and pursue less profitable career-paths compared to heterosexual people with a family. Having children/spouses be dependent on your income makes you more conservative in taking risks and experimenting with your perceived role in society. Thus you can find many homosexuals in fields which demand extreme immersion and individuality of thinking in order to produce results: art and science.
I will accept that as a thesis statement. However you will have to marshal a broad array of sources in support. Remember that every paragraph should develop and support your argument. Resist the temptation to simply narrate the existing literature. Please have a submission ready for committee by the end of next term. |
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All good things to those who wait
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October 25, 2017, 02:01:42 PM |
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Waking up and seeing the price:  |
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October 25, 2017, 02:09:30 PM |
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BTG looks like a scam ~ lol ... get the lead out! :-D >.>BTC FTW! weeee
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barota
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October 25, 2017, 03:13:52 PM |
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bitcoin gold (btg)Will create problems to bitcoin (btc)
Go on then, I'll bite, what problems, explain pls? This is what I wanted to say to you two days ago Price bitcoin fall And the fall will continue ; I expect Prices bitcoin will return from where came from 3000 usd ... People bought for btg |
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gembitz
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October 25, 2017, 03:22:05 PM |
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via: GYFT , EGIFTER ===> YOU CAN ALREADY BUY SHIT OFF AMAZON  lol weee |
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ragnar0k
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October 25, 2017, 03:29:42 PM |
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via: GYFT , EGIFTER ===> YOU CAN ALREADY BUY SHIT OFF AMAZON lol weee I think its all about setting a direction and the others will follow! right now we use workarounds... |
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gwoplock
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October 25, 2017, 03:46:39 PM |
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via: GYFT , EGIFTER ===> YOU CAN ALREADY BUY SHIT OFF AMAZON lol weee That's wonderful for the people that know about bitcoin and this workaround. To bring BTC to the masses you need Amazon and the like to adopt it. |
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