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November 16, 2017, 09:10:42 PM

Indeed. Hopefully there will be a less anti Western / pro China / pro North Korea leader in charge soon..

Really? You mean Zims will be better if colonial status is reestablished in this country?


Of course not.
Trade doesn't mean we go back to the British rule / pillaging / apartheid days.

Surely it would be at least fruitful for the people of Zimbabwe and the Zimbabweans over here if the British prime minister made a statement about the situation in Zimbabwe and to at least state that Britain is open to have a conversation with whomever is in charge next to see if we can help.
The British government has already stated many times that foreign aid will not be cut. I don't see why a Zimbabwe without a dictator could not benefit from that.
There is life in the world outside of the EU and we should be keen to help considering the historical (mostly I agree negative) and language ties.

BUT BUT by help do you mean send in the economic hitmen with globalization? IMF Trojan loans etc? Or by help do you mean covertly funding a coup and/or economic sanctions against the population aka IRAQ/IRAN/N.KOREA/VENEZUELA/CUBA etc

Communist much?

I dont know how to respond to this.

American much?
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November 16, 2017, 09:11:34 PM
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BUT BUT by help do you mean send in the economic hitmen with globalization? IMF Trojan loans etc? Or by help do you mean covertly funding a coup and/or economic sanctions against the population aka IRAQ/IRAN/N.KOREA/VENEZUELA/CUBA etc

both, with some resource extraction sweetheart deals thrown in to grease the wheels a bit

Ahh I see the good old double penetration  Grin Grin Grin
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November 16, 2017, 09:15:47 PM

Woke up to news of a military coup underway in Zimbabwe.

Crazy times we live in. But it's overdue, those poor people have suffered enough..

Indeed. Hopefully there will be a less anti Western / pro China / pro North Korea leader in charge soon.
It would be good for the citizens if trade links with Britain and direct flights to Harare would be reestablished. Many Zims over here in the UK.

YOU ARE JOKING RIGHT???

Its not like the West (UK/Europe/USA) have a track record of raping, enslaving and pillaging in the African continent right?

Why dont those damn Africans and Middle Easterns hate us? Hmmmm let me think.... CHUMP

Your response sounds quite chumpish. My comment was simply a desire of hoping the best for the people if Zimbabwe. With your chumpish attitude one could justify it is ok to destroy all Germans today for the atrocities committed in the second world war and so on until not a single human being is left on the face of this earth. Good luck selling your Bitcoins or paying with them then.

If you think Zimbabwe is better of trading with asia that's fine.

From a practical stand point I don't see this improving the situation for ordinary Zims quickly. Beyond South Africa, the diaspora has mostly been to western countries from what I know.




Lets face it dont you think AFRICOM has something to do with this? You know China is doing deals with African countries where instead of dropping bombs or covert ops and supporting dictators USA style they are actively trying to do economic trade deals, infrastructure investments etc that can benefit the African countries.
The US answer to countering China (good old anti-communism mindset) is to fund and direct military coups. hence why AFRICOM was setup by good old Change You Can Believe In Obama
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November 16, 2017, 09:22:09 PM

...Lightning ... So settle twice a day.

Lightning atop Bitcoin Segwit? With everyone settling twice a day? Great - you've just set the max number of users at less than quarter-million.

Is that what you wanted? If not, perhaps you need to devote more thought.
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November 16, 2017, 09:30:30 PM

Woke up to news of a military coup underway in Zimbabwe.

Crazy times we live in. But it's overdue, those poor people have suffered enough..

Indeed. Hopefully there will be a less anti Western / pro China / pro North Korea leader in charge soon.
It would be good for the citizens if trade links with Britain and direct flights to Harare would be reestablished. Many Zims over here in the UK.

YOU ARE JOKING RIGHT???

Its not like the West (UK/Europe/USA) have a track record of raping, enslaving and pillaging in the African continent right?

Why dont those damn Africans and Middle Easterns hate us? Hmmmm let me think.... CHUMP

Your response sounds quite chumpish. My comment was simply a desire of hoping the best for the people if Zimbabwe. With your chumpish attitude one could justify it is ok to destroy all Germans today for the atrocities committed in the second world war and so on until not a single human being is left on the face of this earth. Good luck selling your Bitcoins or paying with them then.

If you think Zimbabwe is better of trading with asia that's fine.

From a practical stand point I don't see this improving the situation for ordinary Zims quickly. Beyond South Africa, the diaspora has mostly been to western countries from what I know.




Lets face it dont you think AFRICOM has something to do with this? You know China is doing deals with African countries where instead of dropping bombs or covert ops and supporting dictators USA style they are actively trying to do economic trade deals, infrastructure investments etc that can benefit the African countries.
The US answer to countering China (good old anti-communism mindset) is to fund and direct military coups. hence why AFRICOM was setup by good old Change You Can Believe In Obama

I am no way political but use these fundamentals for trading and find out serious market players

Here is how it effects current markets





To follow change follow the banking empire

Where certain banks or heavily invested industry backed banks do not have a strangle hold there is a take over

Now this is where it gets interesting

Lets use puppet governments to enforce the bank use or trade

How many puppet governments are there, most backed by BIS, IMF, and central banks

What governments are not puppet governments or were Iraq, Libya, Russia etc etc etc

What governments are not real - North Korea Manchurian candidate run by the CIA

Follow the careers of Preston Bush and his sons and the links to Saudi Arabia and Banking

Now who else could be a Manchurian candidate - Mugabe

Who is verbally Attacking North Korea and who has been arrested - 11 Saudi princes and who just got overthrown Zimbabwe

Do you think someone is cleaning house



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November 16, 2017, 09:32:38 PM

I'm not exactly sure how Lightning is going to work, but I am almost certain that most people or entities that will open channels will close them within the day, probably a few times a day, or twice a day. So settle twice a day.

If it were like one of my transactions, that's maybe $1m "settled" paid with $100 fee. Even if it were $1000 fee because of more inputs.



Well, you could settle your channels as frequently as you want if willing to pay the fee... but what I would do (or expect to do in the future) is opening a LN channel with one of the main hubs (call it coinbase/bitpay/blockstream/whatever) that have channels open with other main hubs and major retailers (ie starbucks). I mean, I won't open a channel directly to starbucks, I don't see the point.

The hub will probably settle the channel with Starbucks with a high frequency depending on volume and then share the fees+costs+profit between the multiple LN users.

Also, LN is not for those BIG transactions you mention, for those you use regular "blockchain" tx.
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November 16, 2017, 09:33:03 PM

Indeed. Hopefully there will be a less anti Western / pro China / pro North Korea leader in charge soon..

Really? You mean Zims will be better if colonial status is reestablished in this country?


Of course not.
Trade doesn't mean we go back to the British rule / pillaging / apartheid days.

Surely it would be at least fruitful for the people of Zimbabwe and the Zimbabweans over here if the British prime minister made a statement about the situation in Zimbabwe and to at least state that Britain is open to have a conversation with whomever is in charge next to see if we can help.
The British government has already stated many times that foreign aid will not be cut. I don't see why a Zimbabwe without a dictator could not benefit from that.
There is life in the world outside of the EU and we should be keen to help considering the historical (mostly I agree negative) and language ties.

BUT BUT by help do you mean send in the economic hitmen with globalization? IMF Trojan loans etc? Or by help do you mean covertly funding a coup and/or economic sanctions against the population aka IRAQ/IRAN/N.KOREA/VENEZUELA/CUBA etc

Communist much?

I dont know how to respond to this.

American much?

No, European much.

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November 16, 2017, 09:38:37 PM

Stop your bickering, ATH incoming!
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November 16, 2017, 09:39:06 PM

3, 2 , 1.....
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November 16, 2017, 09:39:54 PM

Holy shitnitz Carolina !
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November 16, 2017, 09:41:52 PM

Go bitcoin go €50 left kraken ath




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November 16, 2017, 09:45:02 PM

Woke up to news of a military coup underway in Zimbabwe.

Crazy times we live in. But it's overdue, those poor people have suffered enough..

Indeed. Hopefully there will be a less anti Western / pro China / pro North Korea leader in charge soon.
It would be good for the citizens if trade links with Britain and direct flights to Harare would be reestablished. Many Zims over here in the UK.

YOU ARE JOKING RIGHT???

Its not like the West (UK/Europe/USA) have a track record of raping, enslaving and pillaging in the African continent right?

Why dont those damn Africans and Middle Easterns hate us? Hmmmm let me think.... CHUMP

Your response sounds quite chumpish. My comment was simply a desire of hoping the best for the people if Zimbabwe. With your chumpish attitude one could justify it is ok to destroy all Germans today for the atrocities committed in the second world war and so on until not a single human being is left on the face of this earth. Good luck selling your Bitcoins or paying with them then.

If you think Zimbabwe is better of trading with asia that's fine.

From a practical stand point I don't see this improving the situation for ordinary Zims quickly. Beyond South Africa, the diaspora has mostly been to western countries from what I know.




Lets face it dont you think AFRICOM has something to do with this? You know China is doing deals with African countries where instead of dropping bombs or covert ops and supporting dictators USA style they are actively trying to do economic trade deals, infrastructure investments etc that can benefit the African countries.
The US answer to countering China (good old anti-communism mindset) is to fund and direct military coups. hence why AFRICOM was setup by good old Change You Can Believe In Obama

I am no way political but use these fundamentals for trading and find out serious market players

Here is how it effects current markets





To follow change follow the banking empire

Where certain banks or heavily invested industry backed banks do not have a strangle hold there is a take over

Now this is where it gets interesting

Lets use puppet governments to enforce the bank use or trade

How many puppet governments are there, most backed by BIS, IMF, and central banks

What governments are not puppet governments or were Iraq, Libya, Russia etc etc etc

What governments are not real - North Korea Manchurian candidate run by the CIA

Follow the careers of Preston Bush and his sons and the links to Saudi Arabia and Banking

Now who else could be a Manchurian candidate - Mugabe

Who is verbally Attacking North Korea and who has been arrested - 11 Saudi princes and who just got overthrown Zimbabwe

Do you think someone is cleaning house





Agreed

Excellent points
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November 16, 2017, 09:46:16 PM

Indeed. Hopefully there will be a less anti Western / pro China / pro North Korea leader in charge soon..

Really? You mean Zims will be better if colonial status is reestablished in this country?


Of course not.
Trade doesn't mean we go back to the British rule / pillaging / apartheid days.

Surely it would be at least fruitful for the people of Zimbabwe and the Zimbabweans over here if the British prime minister made a statement about the situation in Zimbabwe and to at least state that Britain is open to have a conversation with whomever is in charge next to see if we can help.
The British government has already stated many times that foreign aid will not be cut. I don't see why a Zimbabwe without a dictator could not benefit from that.
There is life in the world outside of the EU and we should be keen to help considering the historical (mostly I agree negative) and language ties.

BUT BUT by help do you mean send in the economic hitmen with globalization? IMF Trojan loans etc? Or by help do you mean covertly funding a coup and/or economic sanctions against the population aka IRAQ/IRAN/N.KOREA/VENEZUELA/CUBA etc

Communist much?

I dont know how to respond to this.

American much?

No, European much.



Haha no not European or are you saying you are European, because that pretty much means American. Who controls Europe through NATO again?
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November 16, 2017, 09:48:41 PM

The real question is, the minimum fee we can pay is 1 sat, there is nothing less than 1 sat, right?

No one answered this question. The minimum fee that is less than 1 sat is zero.

Yes, zero fee is a valid transaction, but very few nodes will relay the transaction, and very few miners will include it in their blocks, so you almost never see them these days.

That is not precise.

If the transaction is valid, every node will broadcast it. The miners may not include it in a block, if there are transactions in the queue with a non-zero fee, especially while the mempool is over capacity for the next block. As soon as there is free space in the next block, zero fee transaction will get through - of course, the chance to empty the mempool below capacity is in question these days :-)
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November 16, 2017, 09:50:39 PM

Bitstamp ATH!
7889$
7892

When 8000$ ?
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November 16, 2017, 09:52:03 PM

Did you see that ? Bitstamp coins available dropped from 2400 to 1840 in minutes. Hold tight!
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November 16, 2017, 09:53:07 PM

Bitstamp ATH!
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Hooray  Grin
Lets move to the 8000!
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November 16, 2017, 09:58:35 PM

To make this ATH even better, BCH is tanking - under $1000 again.

The chart looks like a classic shitcoin pump and dump.

I feel sorry for anyone who got sucked into the flippening narrative. Time for you guys to abandon ship!
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November 16, 2017, 09:59:59 PM

If the transaction is valid, every node will broadcast it. The miners may not include it in a block, if there are transactions in the queue with a non-zero fee, especially while the mempool is over capacity for the next block. As soon as there is free space in the next block, zero fee transaction will get through - of course, the chance to empty the mempool below capacity is in question these days :-)

You must be an old-timer. That's the old code. The new code most nodes are running requires a 1 sat/byte fee for them to broadcast the transaction.
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November 16, 2017, 10:00:38 PM

Talking about observing walls..... Is that 10000BTC wall at 0.1 BCH/BTC still up? It would be great if some whale would use it to propel BTC over 10K Smiley
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