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[sirazimuth]

So, I spent $15k USD, with change and paid a $10 transaction fee, and it confirmed in 32 minutes. That's not too bad.

I spent about $10 in fees to probably not get any BitcoinsUnited. That's not too good.

I’ve made no effort to claim anything free. I didn’t claim my free Ripple (thought it was a scam) and didn’t follow through with my free stellar (thought it was a scam and didn’t want to use Facebook) ... I did alright on a few presales but even now, I’m really sceptical of everything now. Maybe I should retire  

I claimed my free stellar, free byteball,free btrash and dumped the lot
for bitcoin at what now seems like was the absolute bottom of the those markets
this past summer. (free coins?... money from thin air?? gotta be a scam !! better obtain and dump for bitcoin asap before worthless!!!.....
 oh wait a minute....)
Then spent the free BTC (BTC then valued around $5 grand) on a big pile of gold and silver that probably
at this point cost me about 10 times what its current BTC value is. Roach would be proud of me....not.

a trader I'm not .......and taxes? oh jeeezus! don't even go there.....

then again, I'm sure I ain't the only one cringing about now, while watching all this insanely absurd crypto lucre sloshing around in the swamp.....

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[El duderino_]

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UPDATE     AND GOOD LUCK

[somac.]

More free money is more free money.

Speaking of which, where's muh UnitedBitcoins monies?

Going to be distributed on the 24th I think

https://www.ub.com/news

But have you checked if you will be receiving any?
I looked on ub explorer and it would appear that my ubtc has been sent to one of Garzik’s addresses.
Not sure if he is planning to recalculate and give them out manually or if I didn’t fill the phase 2 criteria?
Thought I had though?
Will wait and see what happens I guess as I have no choice!

I'd say the reason the coins don't show up on the explorer is because that transaction that is sent to Garzik's address is when he took the coins 12/12/2017.Providing that you have now fulfilled the criteria those coins will be sent back to you on the 24th. At least that's how I read it.

[JayJuanGee]

Wheeeee! My double digits is halfway to triple digits. Hodler for hire.

Likely, the more you tease, the more obligation that you are going to create for yourself to share your secret with us..... in other words, what is the trick to go from single digits to double digits to triple digits within such a short period of time.  Merely luck, or is there some kind of system that is repeatable for us laypersons?

He dabbles in alts. If you haven't noticed, there's some serious rotation in the works.

Edit: if he's gone from 25 to 50 BTC, probably does more than just dabble.

O.k.   

Maybe the topic is a bit too complex for dab(ling) into, and then getting into off-topicness, especially if such practices are not easy to explain for us lay personas.

I understand that some folks play all or nothing with the trading of their stash (at least the trading portion of their stash), and likely it takes a bit of experience and practice (and perhaps luck, too) to get those kinds of practices to become profitable in any kind of consistent way.   

Since I can better relate to incrementalism thinking, I will try to just stick with variations of incrementalism thinking - because anything else may likely go above my head, anyhow.   

[Heater]

the document on the Intel hardware bug is out

https://meltdownattack.com/meltdown.pdf

Wow that's way more nasty than I expected:

Meltdown allows an adversary who can run code on the vulnerable processor to obtain a dump of the entire kernel address space, including any mapped physical memory.

[realr0ach]

[Rosewater Foundation]

Wheeeee! My double digits is halfway to triple digits. Hodler for hire.

Likely, the more you tease, the more obligation that you are going to create for yourself to share your secret with us..... in other words, what is the trick to go from single digits to double digits to triple digits within such a short period of time.  Merely luck, or is there some kind of system that is repeatable for us laypersons?

He dabbles in alts. If you haven't noticed, there's some serious rotation in the works.

Edit: if he's gone from 25 to 50 BTC, probably does more than just dabble.

O.k.   

Maybe the topic is a bit too complex for dab(ling) into, and then getting into off-topicness, especially if such practices are not easy to explain for us lay personas.

I understand that some folks play all or nothing with the trading of their stash (at least the trading portion of their stash), and likely it takes a bit of experience and practice (and perhaps luck, too) to get those kinds of practices to become profitable in any kind of consistent way.   

Since I can better relate to incrementalism thinking, I will try to just stick with variations of incrementalism thinking - because anything else may likely go above my head, anyhow.   

Face it Jay, we're too old to change.

[Dabs]

Wheeeee! My double digits is halfway to triple digits. Hodler for hire.

Likely, the more you tease, the more obligation that you are going to create for yourself to share your secret with us..... in other words, what is the trick to go from single digits to double digits to triple digits within such a short period of time.  Merely luck, or is there some kind of system that is repeatable for us laypersons?

He dabbles in alts. If you haven't noticed, there's some serious rotation in the works.

Edit: if he's gone from 25 to 50 BTC, probably does more than just dabble.

O.k.  

Maybe the topic is a bit too complex for dab(ling) into, and then getting into off-topicness, especially if such practices are not easy to explain for us lay personas.

I understand that some folks play all or nothing with the trading of their stash (at least the trading portion of their stash), and likely it takes a bit of experience and practice (and perhaps luck, too) to get those kinds of practices to become profitable in any kind of consistent way.  

Since I can better relate to incrementalism thinking, I will try to just stick with variations of incrementalism thinking - because anything else may likely go above my head, anyhow.  

JJG, you won't like my answer, but I confirm what Rosewater says. To me, they are tools. I avoid the obvious scams, but for example, in roach's eyes, even bitcoin is a scam, sooo....

I did get some free Ripples from a long time ago, sold them all a month later and got maybe a whole bitcoin for it (valued at $500? or something). Can't complain, it was free.

If you want to know which alts I have, send me a PM as that's off topic here. Even the mention of alts (except to joke about them) isn't well liked here. But at the end of the day (or end of the week) I trade those alts back to BTC.

I am not a day trader, nor have any bots. I just buy low and sell high. Sometimes I buy high and sell low, but so far I've been averaging positive. I hold for several weeks or months, so some of these things I got middle of 2017, before everything went up.

I missed the big ones. Got lucky (fate? destiny? right coin at the right time?) with a few, and there are a few very long term hodls I have because I know the dev... (yeah, roach is gonna say this means a centralized coin ....) or the dev knew me and reached out.

I don't like mining, but some of these are POS coins (proof of stake), and a couple of them even have "masternodes" (yeah, not Dash, I wish tho, right, who doesn't want a $1m USD node)...


I'm also currently technically unemployed, and have been for about a couple of years, so I have to survive by spending my bitcoins, and I have to make sure I don't lose too much any gains I make. This forces me to be very careful with my trades, or which ICOs I "donate" to, or which airdrops I join (well, some of them anyway, cuz airdrops are free).

One airdrop back in July? or June? 2017, held the coin for 3 months, then it was going to fork or something so I went on an exchange and my free coins were worth 2 BTC, valued back then at $800, or whatever the price of BTC back in July.

I don't know if it's luck, but it's repeatable, the only problem is, right now, I'm not so sure which particular coins you should repeat it with. I have some bets, and again, I am careful, but I am not a stock picker, I'm not a day trader, I just HODL.

My plan in Feb or March 2018 is to cash out some and go buy some Amazon and Walmart stocks. And maybe a small pile of gold too. I like bars. A couple of 1 oz bars wouldn't be a bad idea to just stick around the house somewhere.

I also help a couple other people to buy some coins, and HODL it for them. (yeah, they trust me) ... since it's their money, they keep the gains, but since I'm the HODLer, I get a small cut.

So ... wheeee?!

[lightfoot]

Eh, it's like a loose cannonball on a rolling ship. It goes to one side, then the other, sloshing around.

Eventually it will come back to Bitcoin. So let it slosh, it's just more money in the system that can be sent into the coin that matters.

BTC's big problem is they need to get LN working. If there are nodes that need to be run or whatnot I'd be happy to host and help, but that should fix the issue. Ripple: Why would I use some company's script?

C

[Last of the V8s]

the document on the Intel hardware bug is out

https://meltdownattack.com/meltdown.pdf

https://istheinternetonfire.com/
also amd and arm

[Heater]

Also if you use chrome, it might be a good idea to turn on site isolation per https://support.google.com/faqs/answer/7622138

Link to do it:

chrome://flags/#enable-site-per-process

[lightfoot]

Reviewing the paper. Interesting that this can affect Windows; Windows has System and User controlled Partitions a-la-RSX11/IAS where the various paged and non-paged pools are. That's why drivers run in DRVPAR and user processes are supposed to run in either GEN or one of the other user controlled partitions.

Except that they probably fucked it up and mapped EXECPAR data into the GEN partitions. Those fuckwits...... They could screw up a wet dream at Microsoft if they did that.

(I wonder if they still have a SWPAR for the shuffler. I remember fondly what happens when you swap out the swapper....)

[Dabs]

I'm guessing the above post by Dabs is very much related to the first paragraph of my comment above...  

Unfortunately (or fortunately?) I didn't get any Ripple or Stellar. I got other ones instead. (edit: I got free Ripples then turned around and sold them the next day.)

[JayJuanGee]

Wheeeee! My double digits is halfway to triple digits. Hodler for hire.

Likely, the more you tease, the more obligation that you are going to create for yourself to share your secret with us..... in other words, what is the trick to go from single digits to double digits to triple digits within such a short period of time.  Merely luck, or is there some kind of system that is repeatable for us laypersons?

He dabbles in alts. If you haven't noticed, there's some serious rotation in the works.

Edit: if he's gone from 25 to 50 BTC, probably does more than just dabble.

O.k.   

Maybe the topic is a bit too complex for dab(ling) into, and then getting into off-topicness, especially if such practices are not easy to explain for us lay personas.

I understand that some folks play all or nothing with the trading of their stash (at least the trading portion of their stash), and likely it takes a bit of experience and practice (and perhaps luck, too) to get those kinds of practices to become profitable in any kind of consistent way.   

Since I can better relate to incrementalism thinking, I will try to just stick with variations of incrementalism thinking - because anything else may likely go above my head, anyhow.   

Face it Jay, we're too old to change.

I agree we are veterans, who have developed stubborness beyond our years, and we don't even want to go upstairs to indulge in the birthday cake that grandma made for us to celebrate our entering into our teendoms.  hahaha

[sirazimuth]

JJG, you won't like my answer, but I confirm what Rosewater says. To me, they are tools. I avoid the obvious scams, but for example, in roach's eyes, even bitcoin is a scam, sooo....

I did get some free Ripples from a long time ago, sold them all a month later and got maybe a whole bitcoin for it (valued at $500? or something). Can't complain, it was free.

If you want to know which alts I have, send me a PM as that's off topic here. Even the mention of alts (except to joke about them) isn't well liked here. But at the end of the day (or end of the week) I trade those alts back to BTC.

I am not a day trader, nor have any bots. I just buy low and sell high. Sometimes I buy high and sell low, but so far I've been averaging positive. I hold for several weeks or months, so some of these things I got middle of 2017, before everything went up.

I missed the big ones. Got lucky (fate? destiny? right coin at the right time?) with a few, and there are a few very long term hodls I have because I know the dev... (yeah, roach is gonna say this means a centralized coin ....) or the dev knew me and reached out.

I don't like mining, but some of these are POS coins (proof of stake), and a couple of them even have "masternodes" (yeah, not Dash, I wish tho, right, who doesn't want a $1m USD node)...


I'm also currently technically unemployed, and have been for about a couple of years, so I have to survive by spending my bitcoins, and I have to make sure I don't lose too much any gains I make. This forces me to be very careful with my trades, or which ICOs I "donate" to, or which airdrops I join (well, some of them anyway, cuz airdrops are free).

One airdrop back in July? or June? 2017, held the coin for 3 months, then it was going to fork or something so I went on an exchange and my free coins were worth 2 BTC, valued back then at $800, or whatever the price of BTC back in July.

I don't know if it's luck, but it's repeatable, the only problem is, right now, I'm not so sure which particular coins you should repeat it with. I have some bets, and again, I am careful, but I am not a stock picker, I'm not a day trader, I just HODL.

My plan in Feb or March 2018 is to cash out some and go buy some Amazon and Walmart stocks. And maybe a small pile of gold too. I like bars. A couple of 1 oz bars wouldn't be a bad idea to just stick around the house somewhere.

I also help a couple other people to buy some coins, and HODL it for them. (yeah, they trust me) ... since it's their money, they keep the gains, but since I'm the HODLer, I get a small cut.

So ... wheeee?!

thanx for that, interesting ....  
lose the "wheeee" tho ..kind of annoying (not you... that idiot spammer that repeats it at the end of all his /her irritating mindless posts)

[Rosewater Foundation]

I have a problem separating the conceptual mess of some of these projects from the stone fact that these animals will pump anything with a pulse. Holding Bitcoin is easy. Try holding your nose and buying a pile of STEEMS. It ain't easy.

[AlcoHoDL]

I'm guessing the above post by Dabs is very much related to the first paragraph of my comment above...  

Unfortunately (or fortunately?) I didn't get any Ripple or Stellar. I got other ones instead.

Fair enough, and congrats on your gains, which, after reading your long reply to JJG, I'm sure are well-deserved.

I'm jealous!

[Dabs]

Fair enough, and congrats on your gains, which, after reading your long reply to JJG, I'm sure are well-deserved.

I'm jealous!

PM me at your own risk. I will shill you some alts.

This is probably the end of my gains for now, I'm not going to trade much anymore. I figure 50 BTC is worth $50 million in about 10 years, so that's more than enough for me, even if I end up spending half before we get there. I am still hodling a couple others ... you never know. As Novogratz would say "Bubbles are Bubbles, but you can make money." Shitcoins are still shitcoins, but you can make money.

I also have one billion stack coins if you want... not worth much these days. I hodl'd that to the death of the coin.

thanx for that, interesting ....  
lose the "wheeee" tho ..kind of annoying (not you... that idiot spammer that repeats it at the end of all his /her irritating mindless posts)

Losing the wheeee. It kinda rubbed off on me. Sorry about that.

[sirazimuth]

I have a problem separating the conceptual mess of some of these projects from the stone fact that these animals will pump anything with a pulse. Holding Bitcoin is easy. Try holding your nose and buying a pile of STEEMS STEEMING pile of doogie. It ain't easy.

ftfy 

[realr0ach]

but for example, in roach's eyes, even bitcoin is a scam, sooo....

It doesn't take a genius to know the whitepaper didn't even make sense when he's making claims like "one cpu one vote" when that was never the case even from day one when Satoshi himself was mining with an entire computer lab. There's only two real ways to look at bitcoin, either as a failed experiment that claims to be decentralized but is designed to centralize, or as a trojan horse to get everyone into a cashless society tracking grid.  

Now you have these guys like Adam Back and Coblee making nonsensical comments claiming that bitcoin is proof of stake and mining doesn't even matter.  The quotes just highlight the fact bitcoin is a failed experiment but they're obssesed with preventing it from dying as it should so we can all go back to actual decentralized money like physical silver, gold, and even copper.  Since all of this garbage is designed to centralize, the only thing that will survive in this sector is federated chains (or chains that are federated where people lie and claim they aren't until the lies stop working).  

Working on and hyping federated chains is just working to help govt and bankers enslave humanity.