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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 4 (2.9%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (0.7%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (1.4%)
$85K to $90K - 10 (7.1%)
$90K to $95K - 15 (10.7%)
$95K to $100K - 28 (20%)
>$100K - 80 (57.1%)
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January 07, 2018, 06:06:37 AM

“Talking your book” means you are a spruiker or common shill.  

No, a shill is someone who is paid to entice people to take a position that may be contrary to what the shill believe, so that the shill's master benefits.

Adam Back at Blockstream employs a large team of PR people to "correct misinformation" about large blocks. These people are shills because they are paid to promote a position that they may not believe in, a position that is hurtful for BTC (high fees / unreliable confirms), but one that benefits the employer Blockstream (by creating demand for their layer-2 solutions).  

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January 07, 2018, 06:14:50 AM

“Talking your book” means you are a spruiker or common shill.  

No, a shill is someone who is paid to entice people to take a position that may be contrary to what the shill believe, so that the shill's master benefits.

It would not surprise me in the slightest if you were being paid in Bcash. You are awfully much pals with Roger.  

Edit:  Roach - don’t waste your time with 500 million coin issues.  It will be over 20 cents per coin by the time it hits top 40 on Coinmarket cap. It’s a lot harder to pump over 10 cents.
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January 07, 2018, 06:16:46 AM

“Talking your book” means you are a spruiker or common shill.  

No, a shill is someone who is paid to entice people to take a position that may be contrary to what the shill believe, so that the shill's master benefits.

It would not surprise me in the slightest if you were being paid in Bcash. You are awfully much pals with Roger. 

Nope.  I'm a volunteer.  I work on what I'm interested in and on what I think will help Bitcoin grow into a global peer-to-peer electronic cash system that's as useful to someone making $2 per day as to someone making $2,000 per day. 
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January 07, 2018, 06:21:21 AM

Sure you are.   You are so pure of heart you hang around with Craig Wright who has fled Australia on fraud charges, with Roger who has a prior criminal conviction and presumably with Calvin who was on the FBI most wanted list.

You can judge a man by the company he keeps, and the company you keep indicates that you are mostly like a fraud and shill yourself.  

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January 07, 2018, 06:23:59 AM

the mere fact of being crosswise with a nation state does not, in and of itself, malign a persons character
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January 07, 2018, 06:26:05 AM

It does if the reason for being crosswise is the commission of fraud.

Edit:  or the mishandling of explosives / flammable substances in aircraft holds...
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January 07, 2018, 06:28:01 AM

I think all cryptos are garbage because they're designed to centralize, and silver and gold are far better, but calling Roger Ver a "felon" for mailing fireworks is about as desperate as it gets for propaganda.
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January 07, 2018, 06:30:38 AM

I was under the impression that Wright's exit from Australia was a tax matter.
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January 07, 2018, 06:32:31 AM

If he doesn’t give a fuck about putting unmarked  flammable substance in aircraft holds, it means that he is not an upstanding member of the communit, mkay?  If it was your job to handle explosives, you would also educate yourself about hazmat. Then again, maybe you wouldn’t because safety regulations are a Jewish conspiracy.
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January 07, 2018, 06:32:54 AM

I was under the impression that Wright's exit from Australia was a tax matter.

Both.  Tax fraud and financial fraud.

Much like our pal Mark Karpeles had prior issues with financial fraud and fled France to Japan. Maybe Craig could set up an exchange.  He could call it Satoshi’s.  
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January 07, 2018, 06:40:57 AM

Sure you are.   You are so pure of heart you hang around with Craig Wright who has fled Australia on fraud charges, with Roger who has a prior criminal conviction and presumably with Calvin who was on the FBI most wanted list.

You can judge a man by the company he keeps, and the company you keep indicates that you are mostly like a fraud and shill yourself.  

Sorry, I've never interacted with Calvin. Craig Wright threw a temper-tantrum on social media and later blocked me on Twitter after I pointed out errors in a paper he wrote.  So we're not exactly "friends."



I've met Roger in person exactly one time.  But I do like Roger; I think his heart is in the right place and I believe he has done more for Bitcoin than almost anyone else.  
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January 07, 2018, 06:41:25 AM

It's not a sophism. The key word here is "liberty". Are you willing to compromise Bitcoin's decentralization by HARD-FORKING it to a bigger block size, so that you can buy your coffee at Starbucks and keep a permanent record of it in the blockchain? Bitcoin's enemies will still exist, and will still spam the network. Then what? Increase the block size even more, to accumulate more garbage? Another hard fork? Where does it end?

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I have yet to see anyone explain how increasing the blocksize increases centralization. It seems to be some idea that just took hold and that everyone believes in, because they believe in it.

And it doesn't end. There will always be a need for improvements because there will always be competitors ready to take over if we stagnate. stagnation is death.

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Of course it doesn't end. The "it" in my "Where does it end?" rhetorical question refers to the endless hard-forking, not to progress in general.

I don't think there's any point in analysing it any further. Some of us are conservative and choose the slow, scientific approach. Others are more impatient and want a solution "right here, right now". We can agree to disagree.
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January 07, 2018, 06:42:36 AM

Wheres all the memes? You have to keep the train going with memes!
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Wheres all the memes? You have to keep the train going with memes!

We are all basking in PeterR's Aspergers like display of social graces.  Maybe the Mayor can meme us up a banjo.  But not a 5 string.  I want 40 strings.  And call it Banjo Cash.  I need to make sitars feel inadequate.  It's been a tiring few pages.
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January 07, 2018, 06:56:21 AM

I’m sure Calvin didn’t mean it and was just having a bad day. After all, being hunted by the FBI can be so stressful.  Now, do be a dear and fuck off.
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January 07, 2018, 07:00:40 AM

Next fork called Bitcoin Fix, because it fixes all of bitcoin's problems AND is the best fork to use to buy drugs and get your fix.
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January 07, 2018, 07:02:01 AM

I want 40 strings.  and call it Banjo Cash.



god, I'm dying here
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January 07, 2018, 07:12:05 AM

“Talking your book” means you are a spruiker or common shill.  

No, a shill is someone who is paid to entice people to take a position that may be contrary to what the shill believe, so that the shill's master benefits.

Adam Back at Blockstream employs a large team of PR people to "correct misinformation" about large blocks. These people are shills because they are paid to promote a position that they may not believe in, a position that is hurtful for BTC (high fees / unreliable confirms), but one that benefits the employer Blockstream (by creating demand for their layer-2 solutions).  



When you say things like this you sound much more like a conspiracy theorist than a scientist. It weakens trust further in your position.
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January 07, 2018, 07:14:28 AM

Just fork the banjo

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