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[Searing]

Hm. I wonder if as Jan 1 rolls around the world people are buying to avoid 2017 tax stuff.

yep....I got an alienware laptop full boat....4,025 (biz related don't ya know) case/the side expansion chassis for running an Rx1080 card
for better graphics (gpu mining dust coin..don't ya know..lol or so I will say) also biz related...a 3 TB 3.5" hd another case for the gamer
expansion module above

and I'm looking at obelisk-tech (my summer dubious purchase) of 4 more obelisk units (unknown that this is wise) at around 4k because
I have 5 1/2 off coupons....from previous dubious purchases

will still owe IRS and State taxes of about 12k....running out of crap to buy

(xerox machine...I guess I always wanted one)

yep you nailed it

dubious gamer latops I will 'supposedly' use for crypto (i guess) and dubious asic miners.....the stuff I will do on the off chance NOT to pay the tax man

on the other hand on the above my REAL risk is actualy 25% over what I would actually pay the tax man for this gamble..in that I get 25% back in real

$$$ for 5 years depreciation in one year (this year) towards taxes..so wtf.....I'll take that risk

the stuff you do in the usa to avoid taxes (oh well the gamer laptop will be a hoot and I can gpu mine again sh*t coin for giggles!)

[JayJuanGee]

The vast majority of thread participants herein would have never bought such a stupid dumbass centralized manipulated coin,

While they may not have bought it, they may have received it. Anyone who asked got 20,000 XRP back in the day.

Really? 

You are trying to assert that these coins were "free" and/or fairly distributed based on some kind of "ask" scenario? 

You really believe your own bullshit half the time?

A little holiday greeting:  Get the fuck out of here, picnic food eating bear dude.. (     ) 

Get over yourself JJG - your noobishness is on full display.

Yes indeed, 20,000 XRP were given to anyone who provided a Ripple address to which said XRP could be sent. True story.

How could this be about me?

You are such a distraction with your off topic pursuits.  Making me feel like this:   

The attentive reader will note that JJG was discussing Ripple in this branch of this thread before I.

Stop your retarded cause and effect distortion arguments, and sissy ass appeals to the "attentive reader" baloney.

"oh, I am just responding to others...  blah blah blah."

You are defending alt coin pumps and trying to excuse your stupid-ass pumping by accusing others, namely yours truly, of bringing up such topics...

To the extent that I am talking about alts, I am denigrating them.. as either attacks on bitcoin or distractions to the bitcoin topic.  Thus I am more topical, relevant and ideologically aligned with this thread than you.  Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. 

    

Instead, you want to troll, while attempting to act like you are just going with the flow...





NOT

[bones261]

kinda off topic

but anyone have an idea on what kind of transaction fee I'd get hit on for a $1,634.00 BTC transaction?

thanks....trying to guess

At the current state of the blockchain, with a standard 2 inputs 2 output tx, a non-segwit would be a little over $8.00. I would set fee at 170 sates/byte right now.

[Searing]

kinda off topic

but anyone have an idea on what kind of transaction fee I'd get hit on for a $1,634.00 BTC transaction?

thanks....trying to guess

At the current state of the blockchain, with a standard 2 inputs 2 output tx, a non-segwit would be a little over $8.00. I would set fee at 170 sates/byte right now.

Thanks you will be tipped for your math...will send you a pm so I don't lose your avatar/handle now as a test...will shoot off tip as soon as I see if my frigging wallet works

on these purchases

brad

[flynn]

kinda off topic

but anyone have an idea on what kind of transaction fee I'd get hit on for a $1,634.00 BTC transaction?

thanks....trying to guess

use this : https://estimatefee.com/

Transaction fees do not depend on the quantity of BTC you send, they depend on the size of the transaction you make, that is, the number of addresses your wallet need to collect to gather the funds you want to send.

So no one can answer your question. If your wallet is very fragmented, it's gonna cost you a kidney.

[xhomerx10]

My silver's in the trunk r0ach.

[conspirosphere.tk]

[aesma]

kinda off topic

but anyone have an idea on what kind of transaction fee I'd get hit on for a $1,634.00 BTC transaction?

thanks....trying to guess

Not sure if your question is serious, because the fee has nothing to do with the amount you're sending.

It all depends on the number of inputs and outputs, and of course the current mempool situation, and speed you expect.

[JayJuanGee]

Man that .6 I made on the way down is looking really good right now.     I'm starting to like JJG ride the ladder strategy.

Staggering, incrementalism, laddering or whatever you want to call it seems to work really good, even though frequently you will only be making small amounts.  However, practice, practice, practice, should cause you to remove wrinkles, take out some emotion, and even increase your profits in both fiat and bitcoin while providing you with decent levels of downside insurance.

2017 been an amazing year for bitcoin, and really the past 5 months with the showing of largely resilient BTC performance to go up an additional 3x to 4x beyond the more bullish of expectations, in spite of the renegade hardfork (aka BCH) (and I suppose even other threats of renegade hardforks, such as Segwit2x dying on the vines).  My threshold of thinking "don't go below x number of bitcoins" levels were largely projected as a kind of pie in the sky at reaching such possible low threshold levels in the $13k to $15k price levels, but then we experienced more than 4 decent sized corrections (and of course the distribution of Bcash dividends did not hurt either) causing my "don't go below x number of bitcoins" level to move up to a new pie in the sky level of $85k -ish...   This is simply amazing that UP and DOWN and UP and DOWN  and UP - even when we had been starting to think that we are experiencing WAY TOO MUCH UP, but causing an ability to sell bitcoin, have larger cash reserves, and still to come out with more bitcoins... even only if feeling like little by little.. it all seems to add up.

[El duderino_]

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[OWZ1337]

kinda off topic

but anyone have an idea on what kind of transaction fee I'd get hit on for a $1,634.00 BTC transaction?

thanks....trying to guess

At the current state of the blockchain, with a standard 2 inputs 2 output tx, a non-segwit would be a little over $8.00. I would set fee at 170 sates/byte right now.

Thanks you will be tipped for your math...will send you a pm so I don't lose your avatar/handle now as a test...will shoot off tip as soon as I see if my frigging wallet works

on these purchases

brad

pay taxes on crypto you are going to the birdcage n00b lol happy new yeerzzz<<<

[xhomerx10]

I could have sworn I saw a "Who sold at the bottom?" post a little while ago!
Who sold at the bottom?

BobLawblaw said that, I swear.

Nuked the post after a couple minutes for fear of jinxing things !

 What?!

[Fenstermach]

how much bitcoin will be before end of year in your country?
we need more than 7 hours to be in 2018

[xhomerx10]

I could have sworn I saw a "Who sold at the bottom?" post a little while ago!
Who sold at the bottom?

BobLawblaw said that, I swear.

Nuked the post after a couple minutes for fear of jinxing things !

What?!

I didn't want to jinx things ! Honest !!

pay taxes on crypto you are going to the birdcage n00b lol happy new yeerzzz<<<

My partner and I are writing a check to the IRS for a bit north of $350K, for the January 15th quarterly deadline.

LTC and BCH to fiat activity.

Taxation is theft.

Sheeeit.

 That is a very large tax bill.  I wonder what sort of mayhem and destruction the US gov't will get up to with all that money.

[txtravwill]

I could have sworn I saw a "Who sold at the bottom?" post a little while ago!
Who sold at the bottom?

BobLawblaw said that, I swear.

Nuked the post after a couple minutes for fear of jinxing things !

What?!

I didn't want to jinx things ! Honest !!

pay taxes on crypto you are going to the birdcage n00b lol happy new yeerzzz<<<

My partner and I are writing a check to the IRS for a bit north of $350K, for the January 15th quarterly deadline.

LTC and BCH to fiat activity.

Taxation is theft.

Sheeeit.

 That is a very large tax bill.  I wonder what sort of mayhem and destruction the US gov't will get up to with all that money.

Same here on the taxes, and probably a larger one next year.

Remember if in the USA, you'll get hit with the gains tax 20%+, the NIIT tax (Obamacare) 3.8% on top of that, your state/local taxes on top of that, and you'll probably have to pay a lot more and loose all your deductions as you'll pay AMT taxes instead of regular.

UG!!!!!

[conspirosphere.tk]

My partner and I are writing a check to the IRS for a bit north of $350K, for the January 15th quarterly deadline.

LTC and BCH to fiat activity.

Taxation is theft.

Sheeeit.

 That is a very large tax bill.  I wonder what sort of mayhem and destruction the US gov't will get up to with all that money.

Same here on the taxes, and probably a larger one next year.

Remember if in the USA, you'll get hit with the gains tax 20%+, the NIIT tax (Obamacare) 3.8% on top of that, your state/local taxes on top of that, and you'll probably have to pay a lot more and loose all your deductions as you'll pay AMT taxes instead of regular.

UG!!!!!

I'd rather pay 200K for a Vanuatuan passport and a 1-way ticket.

[mymenace]

My partner and I are writing a check to the IRS for a bit north of $350K, for the January 15th quarterly deadline.

LTC and BCH to fiat activity.

Taxation is theft.

Sheeeit.

 That is a very large tax bill.  I wonder what sort of mayhem and destruction the US gov't will get up to with all that money.

Same here on the taxes, and probably a larger one next year.

Remember if in the USA, you'll get hit with the gains tax 20%+, the NIIT tax (Obamacare) 3.8% on top of that, your state/local taxes on top of that, and you'll probably have to pay a lot more and loose all your deductions as you'll pay AMT taxes instead of regular.

UG!!!!!

I'd rather pay 200K for a Vanuatuan passport and a 1-way ticket.

I think you mean buy a Vanuatuan citizenship with 200K, yep cool

http://fortune.com/2017/10/10/vanuatu-accepts-bitcoin-for-citizenship/

[bitserve]

I could have sworn I saw a "Who sold at the bottom?" post a little while ago!
Who sold at the bottom?

BobLawblaw said that, I swear.

Nuked the post after a couple minutes for fear of jinxing things !

What?!

I didn't want to jinx things ! Honest !!

pay taxes on crypto you are going to the birdcage n00b lol happy new yeerzzz<<<

My partner and I are writing a check to the IRS for a bit north of $350K, for the January 15th quarterly deadline.

LTC and BCH to fiat activity.

Taxation is theft.

Sheeeit.

 That is a very large tax bill.  I wonder what sort of mayhem and destruction the US gov't will get up to with all that money.

Not much considering the prices they pay. It's nowhere near enough to pay for a single sidewinder.

[flynn]

I'd rather pay 200K for a Vanuatuan passport and a 1-way ticket.

Yeah, well, I ain't gonna fight the IRS on what they are due. That's just a bad time right there and too much stress.

I'm a proud, patriotic American Citizen.

Fuck you.

It's less stressful, possibly overpaying on quarterly taxes, than needing to stress about the prospect of a FUCKING MASSIVE bill due on April 15th of you didn't play by the rules.

Trust me. Having to deal with a FUCKING MASSIVE payment on April 15th is much more painful than making "very healthy" payments, quarterly, to the IRS.

It drives my partner crazy - that I round up to the nearest quarter-thousand when it comes to paying taxes - but I've been on the other side of owing FUCKING MASSIVE back taxes, and that's not something I ever want to deal with again in my lifetime.

I can feel your pain.

[Syke]

your state/local taxes on top of that

It's getting to the point I need to consider moving to a state with lower taxes.