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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 4 (3.3%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (0.8%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (1.7%)
$85K to $90K - 10 (8.3%)
$90K to $95K - 15 (12.4%)
$95K to $100K - 27 (22.3%)
>$100K - 62 (51.2%)
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December 30, 2017, 12:22:07 AM

in the case nobody said it yet

ripples over 2$ - i really want to die now


googling where the next bridge is.

Just ride the short down the other side.  Really, it's that easy! No Risk!
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i told myself not to buy it at the top when it was 1$ Undecided
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December 30, 2017, 12:25:47 AM

in the case nobody said it yet

ripples over 2$ - i really want to die now

What's interesting is that the top 3 alts are huge centralized scams.
I'm not surprised any more by anything after seeing what happened with Vitalikcoin, and yet someone has to explain this.
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December 30, 2017, 12:26:43 AM

Koreans are best off buying Bitcoin right now so their funds will be safe and easily taken with them during any mass evacuations from war.  Russia refueling North Korea and getting caught just now is just the start of more instability...

I wouldn’t count on Ripple liquidity and support.

uhhh, minor point, it was China caught refueling NK

Russia, hate being corrected when not wrong.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-5221775/Russian-tankers-fuelled-North-Korea-transfers-sea--sources.html
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December 30, 2017, 12:33:29 AM

Koreans are best off buying Bitcoin right now so their funds will be safe and easily taken with them during any mass evacuations from war.  Russia refueling North Korea and getting caught just now is just the start of more instability...

I wouldn’t count on Ripple liquidity and support.

uhhh, minor point, it was China caught refueling NK

Russia, hate being corrected when not wrong.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-5221775/Russian-tankers-fuelled-North-Korea-transfers-sea--sources.html


We are both correct.  There were 2 stories.  I had not yet seen the new one you are referring to and jumped to a conclusion, my apologies sir.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/27/chinese-ships-spotted-satellites-selling-oil-north-korea-30/
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December 30, 2017, 12:37:52 AM


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We are both correct.  There were 2 stories.  I had not yet seen the new one you are referring to and jumped to a conclusion, my apologies sir.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/27/chinese-ships-spotted-satellites-selling-oil-north-korea-30/

Ha, ok, agree.  ;-)  Apparently they both are aiding the bad situation.

Now back to what matters, Bitcoin.
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December 30, 2017, 12:41:33 AM

This is just to note that there is no reason why a bankster coin should be worth more than the banksters it serves.  Because if that is the case, the said banksters can always just issue another bankster coin mk. II and extract even more rent, and we already know the marketcap for the likes of JPM or GS.  

On a side note, that 35K BTC whale is still sending out large batches of tx and ironically making the BTC fee market and daily tx count looking far better than it is.  Though the fee for those tx have gradually decreased from 1K satoshi per byte to 950, etc., to 650 and now 535 satoshi/byte, the number of tx has doubled.  This is costing him between $500K~$1 mio per day min in terms of fees.  
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December 30, 2017, 12:42:40 AM

Hi, new to the thread. Could you guys give me an opinion?

Have a little XRP, around 1k. What are you thoughts on moving to BTC now? Enjoying the BTC low and XRP high to try to buy it back later on?

Thanks!
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December 30, 2017, 12:45:46 AM

We are not really in the habit of giving investment advise MBielsa, but if it was me I would certainly be eyeing the exit.
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December 30, 2017, 12:48:07 AM

Hi, new to the thread. Could you guys give me an opinion?

Have a little XRP, around 1k. What are you thoughts on moving to BTC now? Enjoying the BTC low and XRP high to try to buy it back later on?

Thanks!

Wrong Thread.
Thanks
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December 30, 2017, 12:48:17 AM

BTC will go to $100K.

Why? Because the earlier adopters are never selling.

Proof

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2482954.msg27183947#msg27183947



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Decided to re-analyse the 25BTC and 100BTC coins since my very first post BTC doubled again to $20K and BCH doubled again to $4K.


25BTC Coins  ( https://casascius.uberbills.com/?type=25&status=active )


Starting at beginning of 2017, there were about 501 active coins. BTC at the beginning of the year was around $1K


When BTC hit $10K (end of November)  50 were opened.

Today, right after BTC peaked at $20K and BCH peaked at $4K. 67 were opened


So only 13% were opened in 2017 when priced went up about 2000%. Seems like either some of these coins might of been lost or Casascius are so wealthy that they don't bother to sell.



100 BTC Coins ( https://casascius.uberbills.com/?type=100&status=active )

When BTC hit $10K (end of November) 7 were redeemed.

Today, right after BTC peaked at $20K and BCH peaked at $4K. Another 2 were redeemed. So only 9 redeemed in entire year of 2017.

Similiar percentage of 14% redeemd in 2017 after BTC appreciated 2000% in value. Actually more like 2200% if you include the forked coins.
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December 30, 2017, 12:49:25 AM

We are not really in the habit of giving investment advise MBielsa, but if it was me I would certainly be eyeing the exit.

Ok, sorry and thanks!
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December 30, 2017, 12:52:05 AM

We are not really in the habit of giving investment advise MBielsa, but if it was me I would certainly be eyeing the exit.

  Bullshit  Grin  All we do is give advice Tongue

  "Here, take my advice! I'm not using it!"

'As your attorney I advise you to rent a very fast car with no top. And you'll need the cocaine.'


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December 30, 2017, 12:58:15 AM

The problem with the UK is that the HMRC have basically published a few paragraphs a few years ago and now leave it to everyone else to interpret them.

Now we know what your malfunction is.  The UK was one of the first nations to be targeted for white genocide by jews with massive 3rd world immigration.  All inhabitants quickly either converted to hard right nazis or doubled down on cuckoldism to worship your conquerors.  It's clear which path you took.

Didn't want to get caught in this but can't help it, must challenge.
So if the white race was so dangerous and hard to manipulate, how would they manipulate them into getting replaced (like they are doing now according to you)?
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December 30, 2017, 01:00:00 AM

The problem with the UK is that the HMRC have basically published a few paragraphs a few years ago and now leave it to everyone else to interpret them.

Now we know what your malfunction is.  The UK was one of the first nations to be targeted for white genocide by jews with massive 3rd world immigration.  All inhabitants quickly either converted to hard right nazis or doubled down on cuckoldism to worship your conquerors.  It's clear which path you took.

Didn't want to get caught in this but can't help it, must challenge.
So if the white race was so dangerous and hard to manipulate, how would they manipulate them into getting replaced (like they are doing now according to you)?

What an unusual escalation that was.
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December 30, 2017, 01:04:40 AM

The problem with the UK is that the HMRC have basically published a few paragraphs a few years ago and now leave it to everyone else to interpret them.

Now we know what your malfunction is.  The UK was one of the first nations to be targeted for white genocide by jews with massive 3rd world immigration.  All inhabitants quickly either converted to hard right nazis or doubled down on cuckoldism to worship your conquerors.  It's clear which path you took.

Didn't want to get caught in this but can't help it, must challenge.
So if the white race was so dangerous and hard to manipulate, how would they manipulate them into getting replaced (like they are doing now according to you)?

What an unusual escalation that was.

 ...and yet not so unusually of- topic.
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December 30, 2017, 01:07:56 AM

...and yet not so unusually of- topic.

Erm, I'm really really trying to make the link. But... it's just ever so slightly, or totally, beyond my grasp. I guess my mind has been crippled by Them.
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December 30, 2017, 01:32:30 AM

Has there been any news that is driving this XRP rally ?

I've got a really bad feeling it's pure emotional, FOMO-driven "investing", and shit gon' come crashin' down, cuz da' roof be on fiya, yo !

Have been keeping up on some San Francisco tech-based discussion forums, and all the "cool kids" (20-30 somethings) are currently going nuts over XRP.

It is inexplicable to me.

I caught wind that there was more and more interest growing with the "Silicon Valley Kids'" growing interest earlier in December, when "one of those types" messaged me out of the blue, asking my opinion on XRP, as they knew I was into Bitcoin. I responded I honestly don't know much, other than it's centralized. This is back when it was riding up near $0.40 USD.

So yeah, anecdotally, I know a portion of the XRP fiat inflow is coming from Silicon Valley types that were also heavily into mETH.

Also, boy did I quit a bad time to quit drinking. Figure if I'm retiring end of Q1, I want to be stone-sober and clear-headed when I finally make the decision to resign from ((( them ))). Quit drinking this past Monday. Easier than I thought, to be honest.

Also, watching the charts today are making me seasick.

Sheeeit.

many rumors and some partnerships...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jessedamiani/2017/12/22/5-reasons-why-the-ripple-price-is-going-up-so-fast-will-the-xrp-surge-continue/2/#520d5cf321ea
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December 30, 2017, 01:37:43 AM

He got a confirm. 45k lost. Sad

Oh man, really sorry to hear that. From the moment I read your first post about this, I knew it was a losing battle. It's tough to outrun the network (even the slow and overloaded Bitcoin network). It was inevitable that he would get a confirmation before you could act...

Some advice to help avoid situations like this:

1. Buy (and use) a TREZOR or Ledger h/w wallet.
2. Use a good Anti-Virus s/w (not M$ SUCKurity ASSentials or DAFTender).
3. Train yourself to sense intrusions (needs years of experience).
4. Be paranoid about the organization of apps and files on your PC.
5. Don't use Windows 10 if possible. It significantly compromises (3) and (4) among other negatives.
6. Online and PC/phone wallets are to hold small amounts of coins, and only temporarily.
7. Buy (and use) a TREZOR or Ledger h/w wallet.

Again, really sorry for the loss, and I hope it was a small percentage of your total portfolio.

This is really excellent advice.

I bit the bullet and got a good deal on eBay with the android phone cable.  Same price as Trezor online, but no pesky import charges.

Thanks for the free wallet, #Bcash!!
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December 30, 2017, 01:53:28 AM

Has there been any news that is driving this XRP rally ?


It's a classic pump and dump, and sooner or later there's going to be a massive dump. Bitcoin will probably pump then as money flows back into it from ripple.
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December 30, 2017, 01:58:13 AM

Man hate that BTC spends like 8 hours edging up and then completely dumps all those gains in minutes again.  Grrrr
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