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[mymenace]

unfortunately they figured out that people greed is the best tool to beat BTC

Do you not understand Bitcoin? Bitcoin runs on greed. Creating a way to channel each person's greed to serve the system as a whole was Satoshi's central innovation.

that's so not true, man, it's the technology dammit, and the freedom from slavery

Yes and if its freedom , what are we going to do when the slave owners come after us


Taxman, Banks, Credit, have used government policy and military very well to get their own way

http://investmentwatchblog.com/expert-predicts-bill-and-hillary-clinton-will-both-be-convicted-bigly-for-crimes-in-2018-as-their-house-of-cards-comes-crashing-down/

2 of the biggest promoters of the taxman, banks and generally ripping everything off, polluting politics in every country





now if the world really is changing to freedom you would see

1) Biggest political financier for the corrupt arrested    - 11 saudi princes
2) Remove CIA dictators                                            -  1 Zimbabwe President
3) Destroy Drug manufacturers                                  -  Afghan drug labs blown up
4) Stop terrorism                                                      - defeat of Isis in Iraq, Afghan and Syria (Obama's ISIS funded military)
5) Arrest human traffickers                                        - the happening


oh that is happening

[HanvanBitcoin]

Things are looking good. Just wait until the Mothership starts moving again. The Fiat Magnet is not done yet.

Hope you are right. I exchanged my whole ripple stash that i bought last year for BTCTC today Almost doubled my total BTCTC stash

[ParabellumLite]

So if I remember correctly Ripple labs own what 50billion XRP giving them a market value in the $175bn area or rough 3.5 Tesla's, 3 general motors or slightly less than 1 Volkswagen, why buy a Lambo when you can buy the company that makes them.

Mind boggling, isn't it? It gets worse when you consider they have a product with 0 actual use anywhere, and questionable technology which can be hardly called cryptocurrency at all. My only fear is that their doom and fall to abyss will have devastating affect on average Joe's trust in crypto.

Indeed, let us forget all the deals with banks Ripple made - like the one with SBI. Or the fact that Ripple will use its technology for credit card payments.
Just one example here: https://ripple.com/insights/american-express-joins-ripplenet-giving-visibility-and-speed-to-global-commercial-payments/
Here's more: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/27/ripple-jumps-after-news-of-link-to-some-japanese-credit-card-companies.html

Really, it is so easy to pick out the guys here that haven't read up on Ripple in ages, or just read whatever false information they find out there on Twitter. There is nothing 'mind boggling' about Ripple's rise: it makes total sense, if you actually took a good look at what is going on. Not to mention that the accusation 'with 0 actual use anywhere' could more or less be let loose at BTC, which is nearly exclusively being held for speculative purposes, but I'll just let that one slip.

If Bitcoin's funeral is indeed to start after this pennant closes, I think the flippening could happen as soon as around January 20th.  Not that it matters much, but quite a few people here care about it - so there you have it.

[philip2000uk]

still dont see bch in my cb i thought we get some

[Wekkel]

If Bitcoin's funeral is indeed to start after this pennant closes, I think the flippening could happen as soon as around January 20th.

Nope. Bitcoin rally to recommence on 18 January. You heard it here first 

[Gab0]

If you think that, you truly are an ignorant idiot.

Lauda, please excuse us. We are not used to having the privilege of being able to count on the presence of geniuses like you. Nobody would think that in a forum lost on the internet there are people who spend so much time in their lives reminding us what an idiot we are. Thank you, thank you for enlightening us with your sacred truth, and for every "idiot" and "stupid" you give us.

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You're an idiot....
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All of those people are idiots. Con men tend to appear on the stage quite often.

If you are surviving by spamming sig. campaigns, you're an idiot who deserves to be permanently banned from here.

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You're an idiot.
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Stop shilling and get educated, idiot.

Go away from this thread already, idiot. This thread is only for Bitsend.

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I assume stupidity.

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I'm not sure if you're stupid or trolling.
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Money hungry? You're an idiot.
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Shill account created for pumping BCH? I wonder if you're on Roger Ver's payroll or whether you're just a bamboozled idiot.

[...] Please fully read the thread before you ask redundant or stupid questions.

Tu fuente es Jonald? Idiota
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O eres un "paid shill", "bamboozled" o simplemente directamente estúpido.

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Anyone who thinks what Wordpress is secure is an idiot to begin with.
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1) Stupid idea.
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4) Close this stupid thread.

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That is not Lutpin's list, that is the combined SMAS list, idiot.
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You're an idiot, aolley.
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OP, you're an idiot who is highly unstable. Please go away already and don't come back.

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Whether it is going in the direction that Satoshi envisioned or not is irrelevant and anyone who appeals to that is an idiot.
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Vitalik is a corporate sellout/idiot, yes.
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Let me shorten it into layman terms for you, had you not been a idiot and (allegedly) wasted your time with shitcoins, then this would already have been solved (or never happened to begin with).
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Wrong. We need the idiots out of the way.
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Anyone knowledgeable enough would simply see the stupidity of that question. Then again, big blockists aren't famous for their intellect nor knowledge.
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He's stupid enough to realize that agencies such as NSA have infiltrated both sides (especially his) and are manipulating him, as his technical knowledge is very shallow.
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This statement is completely false on all levels -> you're an idiot. Stop posting bullshit.
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If your financial life is reliant on bounty campaigns, then you're an idiot and should not have access to those to begin with.
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You're an idiot. Go away already.

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You're an idiot.

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Stop spamming with your bullshit, idiot.

This list could easily be extended a couple of pages.

[d_eddie]

This description is the reality ... LN is the future and i think in june 18 ... btc reach 40k usd

Any reason for this particular date?

[windjc]

So if I remember correctly Ripple labs own what 50billion XRP giving them a market value in the $175bn area or rough 3.5 Tesla's, 3 general motors or slightly less than 1 Volkswagen, why buy a Lambo when you can buy the company that makes them.

Mind boggling, isn't it? It gets worse when you consider they have a product with 0 actual use anywhere, and questionable technology which can be hardly called cryptocurrency at all. My only fear is that their doom and fall to abyss will have devastating affect on average Joe's trust in crypto.

Indeed, let us forget all the deals with banks Ripple made - like the one with SBI. Or the fact that Ripple will use its technology for credit card payments.
Just one example here: https://ripple.com/insights/american-express-joins-ripplenet-giving-visibility-and-speed-to-global-commercial-payments/
Here's more: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/27/ripple-jumps-after-news-of-link-to-some-japanese-credit-card-companies.html

Really, it is so easy to pick out the guys here that haven't read up on Ripple in ages, or just read whatever false information they find out there on Twitter. There is nothing 'mind boggling' about Ripple's rise: it makes total sense, if you actually took a good look at what is going on. Not to mention that the accusation 'with 0 actual use anywhere' could more or less be let loose at BTC, which is nearly exclusively being held for speculative purposes, but I'll just let that one slip.

If Bitcoin's funeral is indeed to start after this pennant closes, I think the flippening could happen as soon as around January 20th.  Not that it matters much, but quite a few people here care about it - so there you have it.

You havent read the DETAILS. All of these projects are experiments. No one has decided to use Ripple after testing it.

Please name ONE major company or bank that has greenlighted Ripple use.

[ParabellumLite]

So if I remember correctly Ripple labs own what 50billion XRP giving them a market value in the $175bn area or rough 3.5 Tesla's, 3 general motors or slightly less than 1 Volkswagen, why buy a Lambo when you can buy the company that makes them.

Mind boggling, isn't it? It gets worse when you consider they have a product with 0 actual use anywhere, and questionable technology which can be hardly called cryptocurrency at all. My only fear is that their doom and fall to abyss will have devastating affect on average Joe's trust in crypto.

Indeed, let us forget all the deals with banks Ripple made - like the one with SBI. Or the fact that Ripple will use its technology for credit card payments.
Just one example here: https://ripple.com/insights/american-express-joins-ripplenet-giving-visibility-and-speed-to-global-commercial-payments/
Here's more: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/27/ripple-jumps-after-news-of-link-to-some-japanese-credit-card-companies.html

Really, it is so easy to pick out the guys here that haven't read up on Ripple in ages, or just read whatever false information they find out there on Twitter. There is nothing 'mind boggling' about Ripple's rise: it makes total sense, if you actually took a good look at what is going on. Not to mention that the accusation 'with 0 actual use anywhere' could more or less be let loose at BTC, which is nearly exclusively being held for speculative purposes, but I'll just let that one slip.

If Bitcoin's funeral is indeed to start after this pennant closes, I think the flippening could happen as soon as around January 20th.  Not that it matters much, but quite a few people here care about it - so there you have it.

You havent read the DETAILS. All of these projects are experiments. No one has decided to use Ripple after testing it.

Please name ONE major company or bank that has greenlighted Ripple use.

Will a group of banks do? SBI is the name of the game in that case.
Start informing yourself from this point onwards: you might actually see the value in it as well. That being: if you are open minded enough to do so. That's my challenge to you.

[windjc]

So if I remember correctly Ripple labs own what 50billion XRP giving them a market value in the $175bn area or rough 3.5 Tesla's, 3 general motors or slightly less than 1 Volkswagen, why buy a Lambo when you can buy the company that makes them.

Mind boggling, isn't it? It gets worse when you consider they have a product with 0 actual use anywhere, and questionable technology which can be hardly called cryptocurrency at all. My only fear is that their doom and fall to abyss will have devastating affect on average Joe's trust in crypto.

Indeed, let us forget all the deals with banks Ripple made - like the one with SBI. Or the fact that Ripple will use its technology for credit card payments.
Just one example here: https://ripple.com/insights/american-express-joins-ripplenet-giving-visibility-and-speed-to-global-commercial-payments/
Here's more: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/27/ripple-jumps-after-news-of-link-to-some-japanese-credit-card-companies.html

Really, it is so easy to pick out the guys here that haven't read up on Ripple in ages, or just read whatever false information they find out there on Twitter. There is nothing 'mind boggling' about Ripple's rise: it makes total sense, if you actually took a good look at what is going on. Not to mention that the accusation 'with 0 actual use anywhere' could more or less be let loose at BTC, which is nearly exclusively being held for speculative purposes, but I'll just let that one slip.

If Bitcoin's funeral is indeed to start after this pennant closes, I think the flippening could happen as soon as around January 20th.  Not that it matters much, but quite a few people here care about it - so there you have it.

You havent read the DETAILS. All of these projects are experiments. No one has decided to use Ripple after testing it.

Please name ONE major company or bank that has greenlighted Ripple use.

Will a group of banks do? SBI is the name of the game in that case.
Start informing yourself from this point onwards: you might actually see the value in it as well. That being: if you are open minded enough to do so. That's my challenge to you.

SBI is not using Ripple in any commercial case.

You can of course prove me wrong by showing the on-chain transactions that are resulting from this use

BTW, looking back at your post history, I enjoyed seeing nothing but Bitcoin bearish posts since 2014. Good job on the gloom and doom. LOL

[sirazimuth]

quotes with lots of idiots and stupid

This list could easily be extended a couple of pages.

lol... nice compilation  there bud

and while you're at it, you could do the same with a certain frequent poster in here.
just use "centralized craptocurrrency", "pms", "jews and cuckolds" for search words,
the resulting list would extend thousands of pages....

[HairyMaclairy]

Ripple has failed every bank pilot and they have done dozens of them. Ripple is in the process of being failed out of the Santander bank pilot. No one in the banking world uses it all.  Ripple Labs holds 60 billion “non-circulating” tokens which are not counted against the 30 billion currently circulating. Ripple Labs could permanently crush the price instantly with the wave of a wand.  Stellar is just a fork of Ripple and wholly centralized.

Meanwhile the price rise of Ethereum is destroying its capability to act as the Ethereum Virtual Machine.  You think transaction fees are bad on Bitcoin ?  I can assure you that gas costs would destroy any business which is attempted to be built using an ERC-20 token, including Tron which is #10 in market cap.  The only reason these tokens are not affected is because they don’t have businesses - they are

Until someone can show me a coin that is not a complete turd, then I am going to have to assume that the current run up is nothing more than a series of coordinated whale pumps.  Which is lovely and all. 

[gentlemand]

Ripple has failed every bank pilot and they have done dozens of them. Ripple is in the process of being failed out of the Santander bank pilot. No one in the banking world uses it all.  Ripple Labs holds 60 billion “non-circulating” tokens which are not counted against the 30 billion currently circulating. Ripple Labs could permanently crush the price instantly with the wave of a wand.  Stellar is just a fork of Ripple and wholly centralized.

Meanwhile the price rise of Ethereum is destroying its capability to act as the Ethereum Virtual Machine.  You think transaction fees are bad on Bitcoin ?  I can assure you that gas costs would destroy any business which is attempted to be built using an ERC-20 token, including Tron which is #10 in market cap.  The only reason these tokens are not affected is because they don’t have businesses - they are

Until someone can show me a coin that is not a complete turd, then I am going to have to assume that the current run up is nothing more than a series of coordinated whale pumps.  Which is lovely and all. 

Same tale with almost all of them. No business will use any of the actual public systems even if they were any good. They'll lift the code and run away with it. That doesn't stop denialists pumping them and never will.

[ivomm]

Cripple and bcash going down. Bitcoin is up! Cheers!   100mil new tethers 5 hours ago. Well done, Bitfinex, well done  

[bitserve]

Cripple and bcash going down. Bitcoin is up! Cheers!  

It started at least a couple hours ago. Let's see if it is a solid trend change.

[Wekkel]

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Meanwhile the price rise of Ethereum is destroying its capability to act as the Ethereum Virtual Machine. [...]

It is not the price rise that is the problem, but the transaction throughput. The 'upgrading' of the Ethereum network cannot come soon enough if EOS is not to take over the crown (as semi-decentralised Virtual Computing network).

[Gab0]

I was reading this article, about the technological advances that we will see in bitcoin in 2018, and there is something that caught my attention.
"Keep an Eye Out for These Bitcoin Tech Trends in 2018"
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/keep-eye-out-these-bitcoins-tech-trends-2018/

I know it's a subject that may have been discussed in the past, but I would like to know what you think about this:

Sidechains are alternative blockchains but with coins pegged one-to-one to specific bitcoins. This allows users to effectively “move” bitcoins to chains that operate under entirely different rules and means that Bitcoin and all its sidechains only use the “original” 21 million coins embedded in the Bitcoin protocol. A sidechain could then, for example, allow for faster confirmations, or more privacy, or extended smart contract capabilities, or just about anything else that altcoins are used for today.

The concept was first proposed by Blockstream CEO Dr. Adam Back and others back in 2014; it formed the basis around which Blockstream was first founded.

I want to clarify that I am not against the side chains, I am even very enthusiastic about the possibilities of use that they can offer us ... but, is not there the possibility that there could be a conflict of real interest?
I ask because the bitcoiners of yesteryear, was very insightful, eceptic and distrustful, but it seems to me that this is not a point to which attention is paid; and I would like to know why (assuming I've been late for this discussion). There are reasons to trust that the intentions of Adam Back and G. Maxwell are totally transparent and there is no cognitive bias related to their interests?

On the other hand, what role does Adam Back fulfill in Bitcoin Core? Could someone point me out where to read about how to organize and take decisions in Bitcoin Core?


Please, I do not want it to be misunderstood, it is not my intention to trolling.

[Gab0]

quotes with lots of idiots and stupid

This list could easily be extended a couple of pages.

lol... nice compilation  there bud

and while you're at it, you could do the same with a certain frequent poster in here.
just use "centralized craptocurrrency", "pms", "jews and cuckolds" for search words,
the resulting list would extend thousands of pages....

 I'm sure of that 

[alexeft]

What we are witnessing right now are the last weeks of bitcoin being the dominant cryptocurrency. Ripple and Ethereum are both going to fly past it in the near term. I think that the total collapse might be just a few days away before the masses understand that there are no longer gains to be made in bitcoin and start evacuating their assets to these two more modern cryptocurrencies.

More modern cryptocurrencies? Some are not even cryptocurrencies (like ripple)! Some others don't even work, yet they have a price that goes up and down (like Uno)!!!!! Get real!

As for modernity, you can try the bitcoin lightning network here!!! https://htlc.me/
Of course, it's on testnet.

The Lightning Addresses seem kinda long. Please send me 20 cents. 

lntb13370n1pdyuj2qpp504kf7ht2q70mu9c7w5y2yz3sh540rzet0mmqmpjyzrh2wl274p3sdz80v3 xjg36yg6rzefexf3n2v3dxsmkgvpdx3jrswfd8psnwvpdx93njcesxs6rjdp5xs6zylgcqzys6yyxjg dx5pp54pdam2duxvyvta63mh675lspjav0500ds5a6htyydd46y8tjqy4unkwtj52w2pmt2fwhqn4xw mu33jcqq55uxcfc35cqmjvg6k

Go to the above address, generate an invoice on the "Receive" tab, then paste me the id of the invoice. You can also do it yourself. Just use different browsers for sending and receiving.

[alexeft]

Back at 15k

A year ago nobody believed it could get to 15k by 2018. That's an amazing price to stabilize at.

Indeed!