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Question: Sept. 21 Closing Price:
$0 - 4 (3.7%)
<$8,000 - 5 (4.6%)
$8,000-$8,500 - 1 (0.9%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 2 (1.8%)
$9,000-$9,500 - 5 (4.6%)
$9,500-$10,000 - 7 (6.4%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 25 (22.9%)
$10,500-$11,000 - 20 (18.3%)
$11,000-$11,500 - 19 (17.4%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 6 (5.5%)
>$12,000 - 8 (7.3%)
>$20,000 - 7 (6.4%)
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September 20, 2018, 09:10:46 PM

Is the Van Eck the ‘important’ one or is there another on 30 Sept?
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September 20, 2018, 09:13:55 PM

https://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/cboebzx/2018/34-84231.pdf

If you don't wanna go through all that text, here's the short summary for you: VanEck SolidX ETF decision postponed
so that was the tiny dip.
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September 20, 2018, 09:15:40 PM
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Is the Van Eck the ‘important’ one or is there another on 30 Sept?

It's the "important" one. This recent announcement is stating that they are now officially considering this and want more comments from the public. They have a whole slew of questions at the end part that they want the public to answer. I will be surprised if they do not go ahead and delay, come 30 Sept. Quite frankly, I wish that they would just go ahead and deny and we would be done with it. Unfortunately, if they deny, I'm sure it will be appealed. It's pretty clear to me that the SEC wants to be assured that there is minimal market manipulation going on. Many of us here already highly suspect that their is lots of dirty pool being played in the BTC markets.

https://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/cboebzx/2018/34-84231.pdf

If you don't wanna go through all that text, here's the short summary for you: VanEck SolidX ETF decision postponed
so that was the tiny dip.

Meh, looks like noise to me.
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September 20, 2018, 09:39:13 PM

Recently they introduced ETH/USD perpetual, and the overall fee charged for that is still close to 0.1%, making it 10% for 100x leverage.

BTW, Bitmex is not an exchange and it should not be listed in the comparison of exchanges. At BitMex, you only get BTC back for BTC deposited; this doesn't sound like an exchange at all!

I wasn't aware of that, that is not an exchange at all, so it needs a category of it's own.
I propose Leveraged Trading Platform (LTP).
Thanks. Smiley

Its an exchange, but you buy/sell crypto options and not crypto themself.

Casino would be probaly more correct. Grin

^^^^

The Danse Bank thing is fun, a big chunk of the money was laundered through a small country named Estonia, where I come from. Our annual budget is just over 10bln, so they laundered multiple times more than that. And "nobody" saw it Cheesy a big joke. But as always, the ones involved just get a slap on the wrist and that's it.

Thats about par for the course with a World Oligarchy.


Good one. Smiley

Well that .... seems to be gone but yeah, no doubt in my mind there's some shady shit (shadier than normal that is) going on.
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September 20, 2018, 09:41:31 PM

Is the Van Eck the ‘important’ one or is there another on 30 Sept?

Actually, it's the most important one.
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September 20, 2018, 10:01:28 PM

So, SEC delays again the ETF and we have a pump? Nice! 6500 again. Smells like an open season for bears hunting! Go BTC, go!
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Bears are getting smashed around. Not a good time to be a bear (but bulls aren't getting much either). Pigs get slaughtered. So HODL for the ordinary men.

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September 20, 2018, 10:16:43 PM

Nice lil pump! Hope we'll breach 7k soon.  Grin  #HODL
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September 20, 2018, 10:17:50 PM

Bears are getting smashed around. Not a good time to be a bear (but bulls aren't getting much either). Pigs get slaughtered. So HODL for the ordinary men.



#goodbearisadeadbear  Grin
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September 20, 2018, 10:22:51 PM

I'm getting kind of... jealous. This is more than enough.

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September 20, 2018, 10:28:49 PM
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https://twitter.com/JoshMcGruff/status/1042775154563207168

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EDIT: Here. I turned it into a Ringtone for everyone.

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September 20, 2018, 10:34:52 PM


I could be wrong (like many times before), but I think you're the only one who made those three conclusions.


I am super unique!

My interpretation:

The aVerlanche is going to bring BCH down where it can join the rest of shitcoins.
BTC will remain strong and the only one at the top.
Ethereum is a user friendly (paved road) playground. Anyone with a couple of hours spare time can create a useless token on top of it.

I like it.  It is a better story than mine.

In this instance, you are too modest, cAPSLOCK.  Your criticism of the misleading nature of the pic seems more accurate.  I was thinking something similar regarding the misleading nature of the pic and that it seems to elevate the status of various other alts that are either platforms for shit or shit themselves.   

I am not of the opinion that alt coins do not add anything to the bitcoin space because I do believe that they provide decent avenues for a diverse amount of money to come into the crypto space that will likely get diverted into bitcoin, even though it may take more than 20 years to play out - because 1) there is a lot of dumb money out there that will take a long time to get smart (if ever) and 2) there is a lot of smart money that is more than willing to take their chances to make money in the dumb money space - even sometimes while they end up playing their cards badly, from time to time, too.
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September 20, 2018, 10:54:15 PM

Not bad movie finisht ..... first automatic thing = CM and Nice Tiny bit up, but much better than down
So i can relax driving home and get a good sleep , CAUSE weekend is coming and with al the BOOZ pic’s and cheers around ...... Just making me thirsty  Grin
Alcohol wil be testing the liver strenght This weekend for sure
Meanwhile BTC Just keep up Going the right way , Just forget the BUMPS for a while  Grin
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September 20, 2018, 11:37:57 PM



BTW have you guys ever seen this?
https://tucsky.github.io/SignificantTrades/#

It shows large buys and sells live from many exchanges..
It might give you an edge to see a dump coming before it reaches the exchange you are on, or a pump..

Love this . just noticed if you tap the transaction amount (eg: $1.2m) it displays the amount of bitcoin
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September 21, 2018, 12:22:41 AM



BTW have you guys ever seen this?
https://tucsky.github.io/SignificantTrades/#

It shows large buys and sells live from many exchanges..
It might give you an edge to see a dump coming before it reaches the exchange you are on, or a pump..

Love this . just noticed if you tap the transaction amount (eg: $1.2m) it displays the amount of bitcoin
I love this.
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September 21, 2018, 12:49:30 AM

Glad you like it guys..

I want to get back trading but just haven't found myself a spot.. It's been a while..

What do you guys recommend for exchanges a USA citizen can use?
I like zero fees and some margin, like huobi was..
I didn't like coinbase so much because of the fee structure, it makes the bots so aggressive.

A good exchange for someone that wants to daytrade the volatility, make many many small flips, lots of trades..

Their probably isn't anything good like that out there anymore is there?

Probably stuck with coinbase using market orders and high fees Sad
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September 21, 2018, 01:00:19 AM

Glad you like it guys..

I want to get back trading but just haven't found myself a spot.. It's been a while..

What do you guys recommend for exchanges a USA citizen can use?
I like zero fees and some margin, like huobi was..
I didn't like coinbase so much because of the fee structure, it makes the bots so aggressive.

A good exchange for someone that wants to daytrade the volatility, make many many small flips, lots of trades..

Their probably isn't anything good like that out there anymore is there?

Probably stuck with coinbase using market orders and high fees Sad

You do not have to do market orders, and on coinbase there is no fee, as long as you set limited orders.

Furthermore, what does it matter very much about which exchange, whichever one you can get onto and then of course your spreads would be farther apart if there is a higher fee in order to at least cover the fee.

I agree that you might be inspired to move some of your trading based on lower fees, which I did when I moved some of my trading from Gemini to Binance - but each exchange has its plusses and minuses - and even questions about whether you are ready, willing and able to link a bank account to the exchange, which options would likely depend somewhat on your origin country, too.
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You do not have to do market orders, and on coinbase there is no fee, as long as you set limited orders.

Furthermore, what does it matter very much about which exchange, whichever one you can get onto and then of course your spreads would be farther apart if there is a higher fee in order to at least cover the fee.

I agree that you might be inspired to move some of your trading based on lower fees, which I did when I moved some of my trading from Gemini to Binance - but each exchange has its plusses and minuses - and even questions about whether you are ready, willing and able to link a bank account to the exchange, which options would likely depend somewhat on your origin country, too.

Coinbase has NO spread because of the way the fee structure incentivises bots to be market makers. The bots are some of the best I've seen, best in the world bots..

I like to place market maker trades myself because I like to trade inbetween walls, and the bots there are just too much competition for my trading style. It doesn't feel good..

I like to be on the high volume exchanges where that exchange is making the world market, or atleast have a close eye on those charts too.. Always watching a few..
I usually take a LOT of tiny stoplosses too so low fees make it a lot easier to get back out of a trade I no longer like the look of.. Which is incredibly hard to do on coinbase trying to get in with those bots..

I made a binance account for the first time last week when I was chatting with some group trading there, where I found that tool you all like so much actually, but I decided that I really didn't like the new shitcoins of the day trading there much and the group turned out to be really just trying to sell TA to pretty much puppets that would trade their TA..

I have a hooked up coinbase but I don't figure I'll need my bank account UNLESS I DO AWESOME TRADING!!


And about exchanges with no margin.. Then I can only make more BTCs when the price is going down..
If I have margin I can also make more BTCs while the price is going up! And down..

I'm checking out the usdt/btc on binance right now..


I might have crypto trader PTSD or something < made that up..
I really want back in there but I just haven't been able to bring myself to do it.. Probably causing my exchange indecision..
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