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October 04, 2018, 12:38:29 AM

Potential fractal


https://twitter.com/IamCryptoWolf/status/1047431277773819905
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October 04, 2018, 01:06:39 AM

I'm afraid once fiat conversion is unnecessary, they'll move the tracking to the actual goods, as they're already doing for assets with substantial value, e.g., cars, real estate etc - as pointed out several times in recent posts.

Exactly. And they'll even apply it retroactively:

http://www.cityam.com/264481/mystery-bankers-wife-losses-anti-corruption-order-appeal

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The high-rolling wife of an anonymous banker has been defeated in her push to overturn efforts by the National Crime Agency (NCA) to make her reveal how she was able to afford properties in Britain worth £22m.

A High Court judge overturned an attempt by the woman, identified as Mrs A, to block the NCA’s use of one of its first-ever “unexplained wealth orders” (UWOs) – new powers to battle corruption which force owners of assets worth £50,000 or more to prove they acquired them legitimately.

The NCA’s order said that Mrs A – who is the wife of a banker from a non-EEA country – had to reveal the source of her income, or face having the properties taken away from her.

The new orders – which reverse the burden of proof, forcing those suspected of gaining assets through crime to prove they were legally obtained – came into effect in January.

The court was told Mrs A had made lavish purchases, including spending over £16.3m over a decade at luxury department store Harrods, and has access to fine wines, private jets and luxurious properties.

So conflicted on this. Smiley


Don’t touch the Petro unless you are willing to risk being accused of violating US sanctions

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/world/americas/trump-venezuela-sanctions-petro.html

Well that just means that Petro has some functionality.

What would happen if White House applied the same rules for Bticoin?

Revolution.


https://twitter.com/bitfinex/status/1047461223762153472
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Very cool, might be photoshopped.

we do like them just like bob's REKT updates , and where just waiting when fear turns into that green zone .... keep posting them from time to time  Wink
True that, Bobs been a little slacking in that department lately. Must be the booze. Cheesy

In my defense, it's hard to have wanton carnage and destruction of shorts in this muddling sideways action.

I'm keeping my eyeballs peeled tho !

Keeping fingers crossed Cheesy


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October 04, 2018, 01:07:34 AM

Nice pump! Finally, some action!
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October 04, 2018, 01:10:16 AM

A chance ?

https://twitter.com/BigRekts/status/1047654528965922816
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One of those "Ask and Ye Shall Recieve" deals I see. Cheesy
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October 04, 2018, 01:49:30 AM

^
with jjg i try my best with english....  Roll Eyes
but learning and learning BETTER AND BETTER Grin

THATS what BTC is given me , a better currency, english lessons, computer skills, security skills etc.... haha

( sometimes when i'm @ a friends place and making a post he correct my writing.... ,getting lessons from everybody these days) micgooss is @ learning stages

my GF also always complaining with my english writing, so pffff gotta do my best and improve on that.


also you've acquired subtle pastiche skills of his waffly meaningless drivel

Speak 4 u r selfie, V8, u selectively judgemental fuck.

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October 04, 2018, 01:56:25 AM
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Still, (I think) Bitcoin was not meant as a way to evade tax or capital controls but to be your own bank by having direct control of your money.


BTC might initially have had those former uses, but is steadily moving away from its experimental past, and that is a very big positive.

Regulations treating BTC as a mainstream asset, including AML and institutional KYC, are already essential at the fiat interface, but the treatment of transfers in crypto alone are a different question.

On one level, regulations about crypto transfers are defacto recognising it offically as money. That may not be a route that monetary authorities want to go down at present.

In most juristictions, all valuable assets are required to be registered in some way,and that usually is a positve in terms of ownership law and security. If BTC is outside that system it will always have a deficiency in terms of adoption and mainstream recognition.

I would envisage BTC and some other cryptos eventually coming within all of that, with most others remaining in the grey zone ,with the concomitant freedoms and also drawbacks of that status.




Surely the primary facet of cryptos (and the one for which BTC was born) is to provide a parallel monetary store and exchange system, as a refuge from the eventual insolvency of the current fiat regime ?


Over the long term, the free market should decide whether that is a worthy, recognised or necessary function.


You eloquently make a lot of great points here, and I would emphasize that bitcoin will likely continue to serve as a kind or free market experimental case in that due to its proclaimed (and seemingly practiced decentralization) it remains the most difficult to change, and therefore, peeps are gonna have to adjust to bitcoin, rather than the other way around, and therefore peeps gonna identify use cases and gravitate into various use cases that bitcoin provides (and will continue to provide and develop) and some of those use cases are foreseeable - and others may involve a few battles, and perhaps adjusting and yielding that comes from status quo institutions rather than from bitcoin, though some of the degree of adjusting is yet to be seen and might be subject to battles that are difficult to perceive, exactly, in this moment (as we type our anticipations and predictions).
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It’s not a capitulation until everyone despises everyone else

Working on it, you fuck!!!
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Working on it, you fuck!!!

Fuck your mother if you want fuck
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Working on it, you fuck!!!

Fuck your mother if you want fuck

Bringing it back to crypto... hahahahaha

(at least Bitmain, if that counts?)
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October 04, 2018, 02:08:54 AM
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can i just despise myself and call it even? been a long day
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October 04, 2018, 02:20:29 AM

For what it is worth, here is the current chart I use for trading.

Thanks.

IMHO the action becomes weaker and weaker, clearly visible on the 4hr chart, and with momentum to the downside increasing. Not necessarily a shit show yet but the bulls seem to momentarily loose the bigger momentum.

If the leg up from $6,424 does not surpass previous short term high (about $6,550), there is more pain to come.

Your conclusion:   Bulls are losing the BTC price battle because price has been failing to rise.   OMG.



Do you recall 2015?  Largely, BTC price failed to rise for more than 9 months, but that phenomenon did not mean that bulls were losing that BTC price battle, but instead that the bottom was in and bears could not push the price any lower, which ONLY left UPPITY as the direction of least resistance.  And we saw the evidence in retrospect, correct?  And we did not really realize that we were out of such situation until Mid-2016, and some folks were not really convinced until late 2016... sucks to have been those kinds of doubting thomases, just like it is going to suck to be waiting and waiting and waiting currently for a down that ends up not happening.   Tongue
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fuck you Hairy
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I'm afraid once fiat conversion is unnecessary, they'll move the tracking to the actual goods, as they're already doing for assets with substantial value, e.g., cars, real estate etc - as pointed out several times in recent posts.

Likely tracking varies from state to state, and willingness of parties to be private with their "important" aspects of their transactions.

Of course, licensed dealers and licensed estate agents are going to have less flexibilities than individuals engaging in private transactions and the extent to which individuals are ready, willing and able to take measures to keep "important" aspects of their transaction(s) private.
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fuck you Hairy

Fuck you jojo.

And double-fuck that JJG guy. I hate him so much I blocked that fucker.

infofront, fuck you, for no reason in particular.
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Eat everybody!  Kiss
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October 04, 2018, 03:22:10 AM

via Imgflip Meme Generator

 Grin LOL ,BCH what a Joke......

Largely, I think that the described terms of the proposed Song/Ver bet (from earlier today) are fair, yet I believe that the bet would be more fair and unambiguous if the median average period for either BCH or BTC to be lower than 200 to 1 should be for a period of 90 days rather than 30 days.
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Lightning integration in Electrum.

https://www.bitcoinwednesday.com/speakers/thomas-voegtlin-founder-ceo-electrum
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