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[El duderino_]

@infofront please delete alevlaslo

the smell of fried, am I a threat to bitcoin?

better bitter truth than sweet lie

Only read few last post
And already detected a FOOL in the BTC narratives, let him be here and join us with his bitternes in a foreseeable future

[Torque]

Oooh, all the regular trolls are back in force, along with a few new ones.

Guess we're going up soon.  

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

2) species loss ... ok maybe this is an issue, it's subjective and depends on your feelings though. Massive extinction events have happened regularly in the Earth's past from various means. How much species diversity is exactly the right amount? do you feel like playing god to determine that? humans have cultivated huge quantities of biomass in the form of crops, cows, sheep, pigs, chickens, there are probably more animals alive on the planet today than at any time in the past, let's celebrate mammalian abundance husbanded by humans! ... are they just not the "right" animals for your liking? my liking? his liking? should we all be living in teepees and hunting the roaming meager herds of buffalo in competition with wolves and large cats? Who really knows what is the right balance for number of species and quantities of each species that should be alive on earth at any particular time? It's just an excessively complicated question to believe anyone who claims to know the answer, they are just bullshitting you to gain an advantage over you somehow.

Very much the crux of the matter as I see it.  Yes, as I have consistently maintained, my preference for the complex and diverse arrangement of forms out of which human intelligence arose is largely aesthetic.

You have demonstrated yourself not to be willfully ignorant.  You must understand that your preference for a subdued planet brought wholly under the reign of humanity is also aesthetic, a selfish and misguided aesthetic in my view but there it is.

I do not demand that you share my aesthetic values, though I will resist the conversion of wildness to commodity to the end.

We need natural habitats because it is where we, humans, will at some time spend all of our time in the absence of meaningful high intelligence requiring jobs.
With machines already on the verge of doing very complicated tasks much better than us and getting true insight into the nature of things (that they would be probably incapable of conveying back to us-see my other post), we would need nature more than ever.
Just one example: a machine is capable of reading X-rays 150 times faster than radiologist (making 250-300K/year) and giving a better diagnosis.
How you are going to compete with it? You can't, basically, unless you implement some luddite laws, but then you lose productivity.

While I quite appreciate nature I don't see why it would be needed (at the place in time that you are describing). Nature is just one among an uncountable amount of things to keep yourself entertained with.

[Torque]

We had an explosion of whizbangery a decade ago. We had not come close to riding that to its natural conclusion before wizards that thought they knew better perverted the system.

Oh well, devs gotta dev.

I thought you were a dev.

Nah he's just a fucking hack.  

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

I've actually been thinking about how viable a salmon or whatever pond/lake/farm on private property could be. I looked into it but found hardly anything useful beyond a basic confirmation that it's possible. Do you happen to have any idea as to how small scaled fish-farming could be made and how economical/costly it would be or have any reading pointers otherwise? Basically trying to figure out if it's mostly initial fixed costs or if it'll cost a fortune in sustaining. Would love a fucking salmon farm on my property.

I'm not sure salmon, being anadromous, can be reared in ponds, perhaps.

The salmon farms around here occupy valuable estuary areas and are severely infested with some sort of aquatic lice which then attack the young wild salmon as they come down to the salt water.

Same as it ever was.

Not sure what the source was, but I found something about small artificial lakes with salmon. Those shouldn't run into the lice problem, at least not for the wild ones as there would be none. Been wondering if I could get enough shrimp to simultaneously make the salmon delicious and sustainable though (e.g. without having to throw tons of shrimps into the lake every so often). Is it even possible to artificially balance an eco-system that doesn't have either population die?

[alevlaslo]

2) species loss ... ok maybe this is an issue, it's subjective and depends on your feelings though. Massive extinction events have happened regularly in the Earth's past from various means. How much species diversity is exactly the right amount? do you feel like playing god to determine that? humans have cultivated huge quantities of biomass in the form of crops, cows, sheep, pigs, chickens, there are probably more animals alive on the planet today than at any time in the past, let's celebrate mammalian abundance husbanded by humans! ... are they just not the "right" animals for your liking? my liking? his liking? should we all be living in teepees and hunting the roaming meager herds of buffalo in competition with wolves and large cats? Who really knows what is the right balance for number of species and quantities of each species that should be alive on earth at any particular time? It's just an excessively complicated question to believe anyone who claims to know the answer, they are just bullshitting you to gain an advantage over you somehow.

Very much the crux of the matter as I see it.  Yes, as I have consistently maintained, my preference for the complex and diverse arrangement of forms out of which human intelligence arose is largely aesthetic.

You have demonstrated yourself not to be willfully ignorant.  You must understand that your preference for a subdued planet brought wholly under the reign of humanity is also aesthetic, a selfish and misguided aesthetic in my view but there it is.

I do not demand that you share my aesthetic values, though I will resist the conversion of wildness to commodity to the end.

We need natural habitats because it is where we, humans, will at some time spend all of our time in the absence of meaningful high intelligence requiring jobs.
With machines already on the verge of doing very complicated tasks much better than us and getting true insight into the nature of things (that they would be probably incapable of conveying back to us-see my other post), we would need nature more than ever.
Just one example: a machine is capable of reading X-rays 150 times faster than radiologist (making 250-300K/year) and giving a better diagnosis.
How you are going to compete with it? You can't, basically, unless you implement some luddite laws, but then you lose productivity.

While I quite appreciate nature I don't see why it would be needed (at the place in time that you are describing). Nature is just one among an uncountable amount of things to keep yourself entertained with.

I know the balance is governed by mortality, death exists to make room. If you do not give birth, aging and death will disappear

[alevlaslo]

that's not enough

But 128MB blocks are the solution, right ?

Yes

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

My limited experience with raising fish in ponds:

1.  Dig a deep hole, as deep as possible.  We have rock 2 meters down.  Line with fish pond liner (like heavy duty black garbage bags)

2.  Add some rocks from the garden onto the liner.  

3.  Fill with water or wait for it to rain.

4. Research fish native to the area

5.  Buy some pond plants the fish like to eat, put in pond and wait a couple of months for them to become established. Add lilies for shade.  

6.  Buy some baby fish and dump them in the pond.

7.  Ignore for a year and let them be fish.  Don’t feed them.

8. Be continually surprised at how big the bastards are.  

Total set up costs: about $2k, mostly labour for hole digging, lining the pond and materials.  Total running costs:  $0.  

If I was to do it again, I would plan for more comprehensive shade to reduce algae growth.  Overhanging trees would be good but we have space restrictions with current pond location.

Main thing for me is keeping an eye on water levels.  We tend to lose more to evaporation than we get in rain due to dry climate, so we have to supplement some times.  Deeper pond with more shade would help here.

This is pretty much what I've been looking for. Do you have any idea if it's possible to balance out multiple types of fish/shrimp in a way that doesn't have either population dwindle to zero? And to what extent do you have to worry about how many you can eat, or is your pond strictly decorative?


+2 WOsMerit

[El duderino_]

I do find it strange that this threads participation and viewership rises considerably when such off topic posts are made however...  I am sure it is just a coincidence.

Screw global warming, let's talk more about the chick with the shovel.

OK why did they linger filming the shovel at the beginning of the full clip?   

its like in every action hero movie scene.... the big object filming @the start of the scene is the one thats gonna save the day

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

https://twitter.com/scotty321/status/1079150414820446208

Whew, a Keto Health Coach. Better listen to the guy.

[bitserve]

https://twitter.com/scotty321/status/1079150414820446208

Whew, a Keto Health Coach. Better listen to the guy.

Someone has potentially trashed his opsec somewhere around there..... Unless it is intentional, of course.

[Bitcoinaire]

Going down, just like all of 2018. Ho hum...

[El duderino_]

[Icygreen]

Da fuk happened in here?
JJG finally takes a break and ya'll encouraging r0ach to fill the gap?  Whoa..  However due to the engagement,  I'm finally understanding how his mind works and why he persists here.  And I thought it was just trolling all along.  

Yeah JJG is long time, probably to busy @the holliday dayzzz, if he has the same amount of Words to spread @ the family table, or when one asking him “how is that BTC thing?”
Yeah than the party isn’t over yet haha

he was being a monumental prick that last night he was here, perhaps an epic hangover?

Ya, finally earned himself an ignore and ironically I'm reading roach posts. Haha

[Last of the V8s]

dickhead whale-herons

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

https://twitter.com/scotty321/status/1079150414820446208

Whew, a Keto Health Coach. Better listen to the guy.

Someone has potentially trashed his opsec somewhere around there..... Unless it is intentional, of course.

He's a Mensa Member. He doesn't need opsec.

[bitserve]

https://twitter.com/scotty321/status/1079150414820446208

Whew, a Keto Health Coach. Better listen to the guy.

Someone has potentially trashed his opsec somewhere around there..... Unless it is intentional, of course.

He's a Mensa Member. He doesn't need opsec.

Not that one....

[jojo69]

hmmm, little debart doesn't seem to have it to break 3650

[Biodom]

If you do not give birth, aging and death will disappear

Spoken like a bot....

I start to suspect several posters not to be actual typing humans.

[El duderino_]