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Question: 1/24 Closing Price:
<$32,000 - 19 (22.4%)
$32,000-$33,000 - 9 (10.6%)
$33,000-$34,000 - 2 (2.4%)
$34,000-$35,000 - 8 (9.4%)
$35,000-$36,000 - 11 (12.9%)
$36,000-$37,000 - 7 (8.2%)
$37,000-$38,000 - 7 (8.2%)
$38,000-$39,000 - 1 (1.2%)
$39,000-$40,000 - 4 (4.7%)
$40,000-$41,000 - 2 (2.4%)
$41,000-$42,000 - 0 (0%)
>$42,000 - 15 (17.6%)
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December 19, 2018, 10:53:16 PM

the owner said that the last month 50K travelled in and out the ATM

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now the owner talked to us and my first question was how can you guarantee that 10% profit each month on the investment?
so it works like transfer money or send BTC, cause he only works in BTC
then he daytrades and guarantee's 10% profit, so if i transfer funds and the month start he trades and makes 50% profit then each client gets 10% profit and the rest is for him the company etc, when the month end with loss or no 10% profit then he pays it from the company out.... i asked him what if i'm a big player and send you a big amount of BTC/fiat ... and your not able to give me mine 10% ? he said i don't accept anyone that i can't cover .... as strange as it is it seems a bit of legit thing right there ....
and if the company goes bad and he's company funds runs dry and can't cover the 10% profit anymore he would send everyone a mail and stop the collaboration with he's clients, every month everybody could make his decisions of staying in or going out, so no long term commitments

Unless you have full visibility into all the positions he is taking, then this is indistinguishable from First Pirate Bitcoin Savings and Trust. Tread very carefully. May be ponzi.

I am going to bring them a visit in the next days. Although they have a brick and mortar shop, nothing to find in our MinFin databases, so it can be a facade for another entity. Because I also could not find a VAT number or enterprise number. And the name in the proposed contract on their website for now only returns some retired Dutch veolia employee... .
So yes, at least the trading your money part is a bit flimsy... .
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December 19, 2018, 10:55:13 PM

@goldkingcointer is your fat finger crazy long still running?
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December 19, 2018, 11:10:23 PM

My btct name is not that hard to spell. gold-king-coiner. Spell it right. My feelings.

Yes it is running, like me after drinking vodka spiked yak milk.
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December 19, 2018, 11:15:49 PM

Youtubers are looking into bitcoin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zkUoFm6J-w

Now some of you may not know about this, but standard payment processors have been deplatforming some of the biggest political and cultural commentators lately. Alex jones had I think a few million subs, Sargon is closing in on a million, Jordan Peterson is talking about alternative solutions, and many others. Tens of millions of people around the world are looking into it as a result, and it will spread as the media just can not shut up about anything that annoys them. Bullish.
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December 19, 2018, 11:19:39 PM

the owner said that the last month 50K travelled in and out the ATM

50K what?

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now the owner talked to us and my first question was how can you guarantee that 10% profit each month on the investment?
so it works like transfer money or send BTC, cause he only works in BTC
then he daytrades and guarantee's 10% profit, so if i transfer funds and the month start he trades and makes 50% profit then each client gets 10% profit and the rest is for him the company etc, when the month end with loss or no 10% profit then he pays it from the company out.... i asked him what if i'm a big player and send you a big amount of BTC/fiat ... and your not able to give me mine 10% ? he said i don't accept anyone that i can't cover .... as strange as it is it seems a bit of legit thing right there ....
and if the company goes bad and he's company funds runs dry and can't cover the 10% profit anymore he would send everyone a mail and stop the collaboration with he's clients, every month everybody could make his decisions of staying in or going out, so no long term commitments

Unless you have full visibility into all the positions he is taking, then this is indistinguishable from First Pirate Bitcoin Savings and Trust. Tread very carefully. May be ponzi.

I am going to bring them a visit in the next days. Although they have a brick and mortar shop, nothing to find in our MinFin databases, so it can be a facade for another entity. Because I also could not find a VAT number or enterprise number. And the name in the proposed contract on their website for now only returns some retired Dutch veolia employee... .
So yes, at least the trading your money part is a bit flimsy... .
If you should find strong evidence that they are scammers, you might want to consider reporting them.  
I know we generally aren't too gubermint-minded around here, but innocent people getting scammed out of their money is of course in and of itself a bad thing, plus it gives bitcoin a bad reputation.
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December 19, 2018, 11:25:33 PM


If you should find strong evidence that they are scammers, you might want to consider reporting them.  
I know we generally aren't too gubermint-minded around here, but innocent people getting scammed out of their money is of course in and of itself a bad thing, plus it gives bitcoin a bad reputation.

I actualy think he has good intentions.... but is a naive Guy that thinks he can do things that no one did before Roll Eyes
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If you should find strong evidence that they are scammers, you might want to consider reporting them.  
I know we generally aren't too gubermint-minded around here, but innocent people getting scammed out of their money is of course in and of itself a bad thing, plus it gives bitcoin a bad reputation.

I actualy think he has good intentions.... but is a naive Guy that thinks he can do things that no one did before Roll Eyes
For sure, that is possible.  Maybe he has had success trading the markets, and he is now convinced he can keep doing it.
But 10% is a huge amount of profit to promise each month.  Sure, on high volatility months such as this one you could easily make that (if you are lucky and/or a great trader).  But who is crazy enough to promise 10%/month when the price is hardly budging?  Where is that profit going to come from?  He has to be incredibly naive to promise things like that.  

For me (and most people here apparently), promises that crazy raise a lot of suspicion.  
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December 19, 2018, 11:29:52 PM


If you should find strong evidence that they are scammers, you might want to consider reporting them.  
I know we generally aren't too gubermint-minded around here, but innocent people getting scammed out of their money is of course in and of itself a bad thing, plus it gives bitcoin a bad reputation.

I actualy think he has good intentions.... but is a naive Guy that thinks he can do things that no one did before Roll Eyes
For sure, that is possible.  Maybe he has had success trading the markets, and he is now convinced he can keep doing it.
But 10% is a huge amount of profit to promise each month.  Sure, on high volatility months such as this one you could easily make that.  But who is crazy enough to promise 10%/month when the price is hardly budging?  Where is that profit going to come from?  He has to be incredibly naive to promise things like that.  

If its too good to be true, it isn't true. Smells like scam.

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the owner said that the last month 50K travelled in and out the ATM

50K what?

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now the owner talked to us and my first question was how can you guarantee that 10% profit each month on the investment?
so it works like transfer money or send BTC, cause he only works in BTC
then he daytrades and guarantee's 10% profit, so if i transfer funds and the month start he trades and makes 50% profit then each client gets 10% profit and the rest is for him the company etc, when the month end with loss or no 10% profit then he pays it from the company out.... i asked him what if i'm a big player and send you a big amount of BTC/fiat ... and your not able to give me mine 10% ? he said i don't accept anyone that i can't cover .... as strange as it is it seems a bit of legit thing right there ....
and if the company goes bad and he's company funds runs dry and can't cover the 10% profit anymore he would send everyone a mail and stop the collaboration with he's clients, every month everybody could make his decisions of staying in or going out, so no long term commitments

Unless you have full visibility into all the positions he is taking, then this is indistinguishable from First Pirate Bitcoin Savings and Trust. Tread very carefully. May be ponzi.

I am going to bring them a visit in the next days. Although they have a brick and mortar shop, nothing to find in our MinFin databases, so it can be a facade for another entity. Because I also could not find a VAT number or enterprise number. And the name in the proposed contract on their website for now only returns some retired Dutch veolia employee... .
So yes, at least the trading your money part is a bit flimsy... .
If you should find strong evidence that they are scammers, you might want to consider reporting them.  
I know we generally aren't too gubermint-minded around here, but innocent people getting scammed out of their money is of course in and of itself a bad thing, plus it gives bitcoin a bad reputation.

I don 't know if I would report, I am not to gubermint indeed, or to the contrary even, I am in a fight with our taxman since 2012 lol. But sniffing them and finding out whether honest but naive, or scammers is important for me, if it were only to prevent innocent people falling in the scam. To many bad things already hampering BTC. (Not the level of Ver, Jihan&C° I know, but ok that is another dimension, not my class)  Cool
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December 19, 2018, 11:42:50 PM

Well, it looks like everything is going according to the best scenario. Either this was the final drop (which I don't think so) or worst case we can go for a final capitulation FROM a higher price (ie: $4.5K to $3K) in January-March.

I also go for the second scenario because I suspect we haven't been able to accumulate enough at the bottom. Next time many will be prepared for a stronger faster bounce on huge volume.

This is fine.

We're still at the bottom. 85% down from ATH. You think peeps who bought at 3200 won't buy at 3900? Laughable. 3900 is still dirt cheap.

Why buy at 3900, when I'll be able to buy at 2900 soon?

I don't know about 2900, but I will be surprised if 3200 is not heavily tested again. We just touched it for a day, that's not how proper bottom looks like. There should be grind, there should be wall, and only then we can jump up from the bottom for good.
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December 19, 2018, 11:44:54 PM

Don't you need to be registered with a special license to manage/trade other people's funds?
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December 19, 2018, 11:49:10 PM

My btct name is not that hard to spell. gold-king-coiner. Spell it right. My feelings.

Yes it is running, like me after drinking vodka spiked yak milk.

We found your soft spot, gold kintie?  hahahahaha
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December 19, 2018, 11:50:16 PM

My btct name is not that hard to spell. gold-king-coiner. Spell it right. My feelings.

Yes it is running, like me after drinking vodka spiked yak milk.

We found your soft point, gold kintie?  hahahahaha

Hey, leave godlkidcointer alone!
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December 19, 2018, 11:53:23 PM

My btct name is not that hard to spell. gold-king-coiner. Spell it right. My feelings.

Yes it is running, like me after drinking vodka spiked yak milk.

We found your soft point, gold kintie?  hahahahaha

Hey, leave godlkidcointer alone!

Hey you fuck....

You better start spelling the gold cat's name KORECKTLY... otherwise.. you gonna get reported.
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December 19, 2018, 11:54:52 PM

My btct name is not that hard to spell. gold-king-coiner. Spell it right. My feelings.

Yes it is running, like me after drinking vodka spiked yak milk.

We found your soft point, gold kintie?  hahahahaha

Hey, leave godlkidcointer alone!
You talking about gooboylover? I heard he had a 800x long and is moving to Bangkok to do exactly that. Crypto world sure moves fast.
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December 19, 2018, 11:58:37 PM

goitercoiner love us long time
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December 20, 2018, 12:00:32 AM

My btct name is not that hard to spell. gold-king-coiner. Spell it right. My feelings.

Yes it is running, like me after drinking vodka spiked yak milk.

We found your soft point, gold kintie?  hahahahaha

Hey, leave godlkidcointer alone!

Hey you fuck....

You better start spelling the gold cat's name KORECKTLY... otherwise.. you gonna get reported.

Yeah, tell mom I hurt you bwahahaha

Your one liners have no effect on me... I would be much more scared if you threatened to hit me with one of your wall of text combos though.
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December 20, 2018, 12:04:09 AM

Would like to make it clear at this time that throughout my time as mentor to kingcoingolder at no time did I touch his soft spot.
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December 20, 2018, 12:06:28 AM

That awkward moment when you realise all the other guys are probably posting from their school's computer room and you are the only adult here.
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The school computer room is the only place you can get any piece.
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