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December 29, 2018, 03:28:55 PM

two 14 yr old girls agree to meet and fight over some guy, short girl makes a rule not to pull hair, then as she gets pummeled pulls tall girls hair. they then break it up and start over, tall girl whoops ass, short girl says to leave her yard or she will call cops. tall girl says she isnt leaving until short girl says she is done fighting(wants her to officially concede the fight). short girl says she is getting bb gun to shoot tall girl. tall girl says bring it on, "bb guns dont hurt". short girl gets shovel, tall girl says oh shit and runs, short girl hurls shovel and makes tall girl famous. both girls arrested for disorderly conduct.

Shorter version: A day in the life of a white trash family.

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December 29, 2018, 03:46:46 PM

Just because the globalists are using a crisis to expand their power it does not necessarily follow that the crisis does not exist.

This is sloppy logic Marcus, try harder.

Hairy, you are essentializing and verging on name calling, try harder.

To be fair, I am drunk.  On Edinburgh Christmas Gin. Quite nice.



Thats a little bit early for me gonna join the being drunk later today Grin
Cheers man, if i was there you would be drinking one of me  Cheesy

Cheers Mic and V8.  As one of the ladies eloquently put it, it’s not too early, it’s too late from yesterday. 
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December 29, 2018, 03:52:59 PM

they want to know how you will react when Bitcoin reaches 100k and beyond

^Yes, we all know people who claim bitcoin is *guaranteed* to go to "$100k and beyond" are not scammers at all.  Meanwhile, people that probably own more shitcoins than anyone in this thread don't even believe in it at all lol:




Hm.. maybe they know things about internet protocols must stay on purpose, minimalistic and simple to scale and be fine for cyber risk assessments / legal / compliance?

To be globally  adopted...
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December 29, 2018, 04:00:25 PM

To describe how the block size limit affects the speed and cost of transactions on the blockchain, let us use the following example:

(snip simple and correct explanation)

(snip fake data and numbers)

(snip shameless bcash plug)

https://www.shitcoin.com/info/what-is-bcash

So, anything goes as long as it isn't the real thing?

JJG is on vacation, so someone has to fill the gap. Sorry for the meager number of words in my reply.

Get the fuck out of here with your pushing every conceivable shitcoin there is. We don't give a ratt's ass.

rudeness is a sign of the opponent's rightness. Answer the question: how will you solve the problem of expensive commissions when the price of bitcoin rises?
will you pay $ 1000 for the transfer or mounth stand in line for $ 100?
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December 29, 2018, 04:03:33 PM

who or which WO did i spot right there ?

https://twitter.com/CryptoGremlins/status/1078924447292231686
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December 29, 2018, 04:33:21 PM

Just because the globalists are using a crisis to expand their power it does not necessarily follow that the crisis does not exist.

This is sloppy logic Marcus, try harder.

Hairy, you are essentializing and verging on name calling, try harder.

To be fair, I am drunk.  On Edinburgh Christmas Gin. Quite nice.



Thats a little bit early for me gonna join the being drunk later today Grin
Cheers man, if i was there you would be drinking one of me  Cheesy

Cheers Mic and V8.  As one of the ladies eloquently put it, it’s not too early, it’s too late from yesterday. 

being drunk today is not so certain anymore, normal saturday fine food and booze will be replaced with PIZZA and aquaman@ the movies Cheesy
maybe afterwards one or other Xmass market to get my injection of alcohol  Roll Eyes
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December 29, 2018, 04:35:41 PM

rudeness is a sign of the opponent's rightness. Answer the question: how will you solve the problem of expensive commissions when the price of bitcoin rises?
will you pay $ 1000 for the transfer or mounth stand in line for $ 100?

L2 solutions are meant to take care of transaction costs, if/when they become unbearable. Which, in a world devoid of mempool spam by Bitmain and their minions, won't happen before massive adoption.

How did bcash plan to solve the problem? With a larger highway? It's a non solution, bloating the blockchain linearly with the number*size (not the monetary amount) of transactions. This would have made it impossible to keep bitcoin alive on user-maintained full nodes.

And what about eth? It's never been a solution to that problem. It's a proprietary token, with the master doing as he pleases and considering switching to PoS just to be sure. Sod immutability and distributed ledgers.

But I guess many WO'ers have told you these things already. You're just being blind, or deaf, or both.

(Rudeness might also be a sign of weariness after reading so many mindless repetitions.)
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December 29, 2018, 04:36:12 PM
Last edit: December 29, 2018, 04:53:34 PM by micgoossens

Meanwhile, in Micgoossenland:



yeah r0ach you got a point right there, but in every country there are NON beauty ministers i guess ........

do like micgoossenland, how you say it Grin

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December 29, 2018, 04:44:48 PM

two 14 yr old girls agree to meet and fight over some guy, short girl makes a rule not to pull hair, then as she gets pummeled pulls tall girls hair. they then break it up and start over, tall girl whoops ass, short girl says to leave her yard or she will call cops. tall girl says she isnt leaving until short girl says she is done fighting(wants her to officially concede the fight). short girl says she is getting bb gun to shoot tall girl. tall girl says bring it on, "bb guns dont hurt". short girl gets shovel, tall girl says oh shit and runs, short girl hurls shovel and makes tall girl famous. both girls arrested for disorderly conduct.

Shorter version: A day in the life of a white trash family.

 Sorry, I'm out of sMerits!


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 Thanks MicG and LFC Wink  You guys are awesome!
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December 29, 2018, 05:16:06 PM

L2 solutions are meant to take care of transaction costs, if/when they become unbearable. Which, in a world devoid of mempool spam by Bitmain and their minions, won't happen before massive adoption.

Massive adoption cannot happen -- LN cannot onboard more than the population of one small city per day, due to the anemic BTC block weight. How many millions will it take to reach 'massive adoption'? Multiple thousands.

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How did bcash plan to solve the problem? With a larger highway? It's a non solution, bloating the blockchain linearly with the number*size (not the monetary amount) of transactions. This would have made it impossible to keep bitcoin alive on user-maintained full nodes.

Bald assertion devoid of supporting evidence.
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December 29, 2018, 05:29:15 PM

L2 solutions are meant to take care of transaction costs, if/when they become unbearable. Which, in a world devoid of mempool spam by Bitmain and their minions, won't happen before massive adoption.

Massive adoption cannot happen -- LN cannot onboard more than the population of one small city per day, due to the anemic BTC block weight. How many millions will it take to reach 'massive adoption'? Multiple thousands.


First of all, ~200K/day is still more than ALL current btc users in just 6mo.
Second, there are/will be technical solutions as we progress.
Some (current) are less convenient, such as atomic swaps from LTC, but the possibility is there.
Lightning is very elegant and 'light' vs bloating up the blockchain, just look at Ethereum where many people already gave up syncing their nodes and rely on Infura (hence, centralization).


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December 29, 2018, 05:47:49 PM

Where do most of you put your orders?

Not sure I understand the question.  If you are asking what is the most reputable exchange - Bitstamp.

Yes, that's what i meant, and figured it was stamp indeed, but its nice to double check and get a confirm... Smiley

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December 29, 2018, 06:13:05 PM

L2 solutions are meant to take care of transaction costs, if/when they become unbearable. Which, in a world devoid of mempool spam by Bitmain and their minions, won't happen before massive adoption.

Massive adoption cannot happen -- LN cannot onboard more than the population of one small city per day, due to the anemic BTC block weight. How many millions will it take to reach 'massive adoption'? Multiple thousands.



Hub and spoke ("proxy" LN wallet provider).

I don't see any problem in a third party acting as an intermediary (and full controller) of my daily pocket change payments. It's my main reserves what I want to have full control over. And whatever exceptional transactions I want to directly do paying a higher fee.
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December 29, 2018, 06:14:22 PM

Da fuk happened in here?
JJG finally takes a break and ya'll encouraging r0ach to fill the gap?  Whoa.. Roll Eyes  However due to the engagement,  I'm finally understanding how his mind works and why he persists here.  And I thought it was just trolling all along.  

Yeah JJG is long time, probably to busy @the holliday dayzzz, if he has the same amount of Words to spread @ the family table, or when one asking him “how is that BTC thing?”
Yeah than the party isn’t over yet haha
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he was being a monumental prick that last night he was here, perhaps an epic hangover?
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December 29, 2018, 06:23:42 PM


There are those Cadacus coins. If they are not tamper-able then they could be considered physical money.....
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December 29, 2018, 06:24:02 PM

Perhaps, bitcoin is similar to the adaptive neural network.
It is not fully independent, of course, but there are similarities to two examples below.
Note the reflection on program simplicity as a key.
Maybe, the simplicity of bitcoin (vs ethereum) is a much larger advantage than previously thought.

Example #1
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/math/a25686417/amoeba-math/

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So the amoeba can solve an NP-hard problem faster than any of our computer algorithms. How does this happen? The Keio scientists aren’t sure, exactly.

Example#2

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/26/science/chess-artificial-intelligence.html

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It [AlphaZero] clearly displays a breed of intellect that humans have not seen before, and that we will be mulling over for a long time to come.

https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/how-the-artificial-intelligence-program-alphazero-mastered-its-games

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...the simpler its programs got—from AlphaGo to AlphaGo Zero to AlphaZero—the better they performed. “Maybe one of the principles that we’re after,” he said, in a talk in December of 2017, “is this idea that by doing less, by removing complexity from the algorithm, it enables us to become more general.” By removing the Go knowledge from their Go engine, they made a better Go engine—and, at the same time, an engine that could play shogi and chess.
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December 29, 2018, 06:48:50 PM

Yeah dude, 0.04 % CO2 in our Air. Its a huuuuuuuge problem. Wow.



Atmosphere of Earth   -    Percentage

Nitrogen    N2    78.084
Oxygen    O2    20.946
Argon    Ar    0.9340
Carbon dioxide    0.04
Neon    Ne    0.001818
Helium    He    0.000524
Methane    CH4    0.000179



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We will soon be on co2 levels that affects our cognitive abilities. It is rising quickly and we will soon all be breathing air equivalent to that in a closed room with no ventilation full of students at the end of a double class.
And that will make us all stupider.

looks like it already affected you..

If you had ever been on a submarine you would have known how infinitesimally small increases in co2 will have dramatic effects.
I'm not going to give you any links because this is common knowledge.
If you had listened in fifth grade biology you would know what C6H12O6 means.

Iban, sometimes you are just a r0ach light.
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December 29, 2018, 06:50:17 PM


2) species loss ... ok maybe this is an issue, it's subjective and depends on your feelings though. Massive extinction events have happened regularly in the Earth's past from various means. How much species diversity is exactly the right amount? do you feel like playing god to determine that? humans have cultivated huge quantities of biomass in the form of crops, cows, sheep, pigs, chickens, there are probably more animals alive on the planet today than at any time in the past, let's celebrate mammalian abundance husbanded by humans! ... are they just not the "right" animals for your liking? my liking? his liking? should we all be living in teepees and hunting the roaming meager herds of buffalo in competition with wolves and large cats? Who really knows what is the right balance for number of species and quantities of each species that should be alive on earth at any particular time? It's just an excessively complicated question to believe anyone who claims to know the answer, they are just bullshitting you to gain an advantage over you somehow.


Very much the crux of the matter as I see it.  Yes, as I have consistently maintained, my preference for the complex and diverse arrangement of forms out of which human intelligence arose is largely aesthetic.

You have demonstrated yourself not to be willfully ignorant.  You must understand that your preference for a subdued planet brought wholly under the reign of humanity is also aesthetic, a selfish and misguided aesthetic in my view but there it is.

I do not demand that you share my aesthetic values, though I will resist the conversion of wildness to commodity to the end.
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