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January 27, 2019, 02:48:49 PM

The W200 has held yes or no? Yes.

The W200 held in 2015 even though it closed slightly under it for two weeks in a row and also wicked below it twice, yes or no? Yes.

The W200 has never been broken decidedly in the history of BTC charting, yes or no? Yes.

This means we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves, yes or no? Yes.


Do I like your beating us up style?  Yes.

Do I understand it?  No.

Do I believe that you are saying that we can only go down so far?  Yes.

Am I hoping the bottom is in?  Yes.




I thought he was talking about ham radio.

Do you have coverage 12 miles from the coast with the phone?


Yes. That is how we get Internet.

My phone is not powerful enough to transmit to the tower. But we bought a pocket Wifi and we're able to upload at about 1kbps. I have a repeater with an antenna that I'll be trying out when we get back to the site.

If that does not get us what we need I will have to spend $3k on a booster.

Download can get to around 3Mbps though. We were sitting out there listening to Youtube music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzcv5TJkJBA

Would something like this be of any use Elwar?
https://www.ui.com/airfiber/airfiber24-hd/
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January 27, 2019, 02:49:32 PM

Dump  Roll Eyes

Edit - Now recovered to $3,532 but we fell as low as $3,460.

just been to the massage for 2hours
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cause its poker PUMPING time, hope to scratch some cheap coins today
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January 27, 2019, 02:54:26 PM

The W200 has held yes or no? Yes.

The W200 held in 2015 even though it closed slightly under it for two weeks in a row and also wicked below it twice, yes or no? Yes.

The W200 has never been broken decidedly in the history of BTC charting, yes or no? Yes.

This means we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves, yes or no? Yes.


Do I like your beating us up style?  Yes.

Do I understand it?  No.

Do I believe that you are saying that we can only go down so far?  Yes.

Am I hoping the bottom is in?  Yes.




I thought he was talking about ham radio.

Do you have coverage 12 miles from the coast with the phone?


Yes. That is how we get Internet.

My phone is not powerful enough to transmit to the tower. But we bought a pocket Wifi and we're able to upload at about 1kbps. I have a repeater with an antenna that I'll be trying out when we get back to the site.

If that does not get us what we need I will have to spend $3k on a booster.

Download can get to around 3Mbps though. We were sitting out there listening to Youtube music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzcv5TJkJBA

Would something like this be of any use Elwar?
https://www.ui.com/airfiber/airfiber24-hd/

If it weren't super expensive and I need to have a base station on land and a stable location for it. Then ya.

I think by the time we look at dedicated antennas the satellite broadband Internet will be out. Talks of 2020 or so were brought up.
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January 27, 2019, 03:18:26 PM

Bitcoin is useful to digitally keep some wealth out of the official banking system.

Now that the FED is leaving the tightening rhetoric, us prices will soar, the dollar will crash, gold will go up.

Bitcoin is very likely to spike again.
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January 27, 2019, 03:22:30 PM

the cause of this dump is the unfair ba
they should unban bitcoin
price must trade at 4500 to 5500 at these month and over 6500 next two month
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January 27, 2019, 03:24:35 PM
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Bitcoin is useful to digitally keep some wealth out of the official banking system.

Now that the FED is leaving the tightening rhetoric, us prices will soar, the dollar will crash, gold will go up.

Bitcoin is very likely to spike again.

Wow, thanks for your amazing insight & coming to share it with us.

I wish I’d thought of this before.
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January 27, 2019, 03:37:07 PM



The highway I drive down has been fucked since they just shutdown work but somehow this makes it worth it. Smiley

Now do we have to wait another year or four before the cocksucker politicians stop getting paid?
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Reading WO feels so surreal at times. Grin

Here is a plagiarized joke*:

A Nazi lover, a gay African American & a Greek are on a cruise ship heading to the Bahamas.

At breakfast the Nazi lover said:
N. - Last night, I made love to my wife, twice. Then we looked at some silver bars. In the morning she asked to look at some gold bars.
The African American laughs, and responds:
A. - Last night, me and Rick fucked so hard four times, that we broke the bed. This morning we ordered a new one.
'Ha, that's nothing' says the Greek.
G. - I made love to my wife only once last night.
N&A. - And what did she say in the morning?
G. Don't stooooooop.....


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January 27, 2019, 04:00:00 PM

Guys one question for all senior members. What's so special about hats in your profile. I have never seen this craze in any other thread so far. Plz tell me.
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January 27, 2019, 04:00:45 PM

he has painted himself in a corner on either 'shut to gov't' down again, or get rid of the wall talk.

He painted himself into a corner a long time ago by not securing funding when the Republicans controlled all three branches of government for two years. 

Wtf has he been doing all this time?

Tweeting.
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January 27, 2019, 04:10:00 PM

You guys should be allowed to shoot your immigrants, its just not right.

They'd think twice then.

Yeah, they got alot of nerve being born on the other side of a line we drew in the sand and to want to get away from the shithole they found themselfs in.

Lawful shoot to kill on all sightings is in order! Smiley
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January 27, 2019, 04:10:09 PM

Guys one question for all senior members. What's so special about hats in your profile. I have never seen this craze in any other thread so far. Plz tell me.

Mumbers of a gang, they work here and paid with merit.
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January 27, 2019, 04:13:32 PM

Mumbers of a gang, they work here and paid with merit.

Bingo! You are smart.  Roll Eyes
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January 27, 2019, 04:15:06 PM

Breakthrough: New Yorkers Can Buy Bitcoin at Traditional ATMs

https://dailyhodl.com/2019/01/26/breakthrough-new-yorkers-can-buy-bitcoin-at-traditional-atms/

"New Yorkers will now be able to buy Bitcoin from traditional ATMs using their debit cards. With a newly granted license from the New York regulator, LibertyX becomes the first such licensee offering debit card Bitcoin purchasing options to New York State residents.
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To use a debit card, users need a LibertyX account via the mobile app. Approved account holders can purchase up to $3,000 of Bitcoin per day."
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January 27, 2019, 04:17:36 PM

Guys one question for all senior members. What's so special about hats in your profile. I have never seen this craze in any other thread so far. Plz tell me.
Don't ask, just run!   Grin
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January 27, 2019, 04:19:42 PM

^^
R0ach is poison, yes.
not be missed if left the thread.
Why even bother.

Try better than saying bullshit. Respond to MR realroach as he speak, I mean With wisdom.
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January 27, 2019, 04:20:56 PM



I find this very interesting that I don not remember this being taught at all throughout my history classes in American schools.

I actually checked to make sure it wasn't fake.
https://www.zazzle.de/vintage_karte_von_new_amsterdam_1660_poster-228603609040769604


I guess we now know why Wall Street rules America, It's a symbol of where the British took control apparently.

Maybe the bankers don't like the narrative.
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January 27, 2019, 04:31:54 PM

Indeed maybe. Maybe we should ask theymos Wink

One more fact that I've noticed. Many Dev's on Grin ATM.

The joke will be revealed on april 01

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January 27, 2019, 04:34:50 PM

^. Which year? Grin
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January 27, 2019, 04:36:00 PM

It's very annoying the Lightning Network conmen are trying to pretend LN while bitcoin has empty blocks vs bitcoin with full blocks that are uneconomical to use would look anything remotely similar to one another.  It's a testnet and they're launching spam channels everywhere that have pocket change in each one and try to pretend each 'line' represents 'decentralization'.  In the real world, the way it's designed incentivizes you to put all your money in a single channel connected directly to a well-connected bank, so the exact opposite of how they try to trick people and portray it as.  

The testnet lines are meaningless, only incentives matter.  Empty channels that nothing flows through is not a valid measurement of anything, just a visual trick.  The real measurement of LN decentralization is basically what % of a user's net worth is all in the same channel and how few channels would actually be moving all the volume in the real world.  For example, do you think someone is going to have 20% of their net worth in a channel connected to the grocery store then 5% to the pet store, yada yada?  Hell no.  They're not going to pay money to open all these channels and then for no reason split all their money up into non-fungible pools that can't be combined to spend on larger purchases.  

How the fuck would you mobilize your cash to invest in anything if you constantly have to keep it in 100 different channels too?  It's not feasible for savers, spenders, for anyone really.  The only way it works at all in a non-clown car manner is having all your money in a single channel connected directly to a bank.  So in other words, LN is completely worthless and is identical to the current banking system.
Roach, despite distracting and less than admirable personal qualities, you get some things right.
When I first looked into Lightning Network, I was thoroughly underwhelmed.  Nothing has happened to change my mind.
LN is a kludge.

Yea, I don't really understand how claims by the Lightning Network have fooled so many people thus far.  It's not possible for it to function in the real world as anything except the hub and spoke model abomination that I described above identical to the current banking system.  Anyone who's been around bitcoin for a while and actually talks to all the players in the scene would remember back in LN's formative stage, people were actually using phrases like "yea, we're going to attempt to scale bitcoin in a manner similar to the way current banks scale".  Well, congratulations, you have created....an exact replica of existing banks.

I'm not even joking.  The people working on it were using that exact terminology.  So why would it be surprising the end result is awful with all the same negatives?  Each LN hub/node would be required by law to do AML/KYC on transactions too, and each one would have giant blacklists of people they refuse to process transactions for which cannot be overcome with non-fungible tokens.  The whole thing is a nightmare.  The same people that ban your Twitter account for making a pro-Trump post will just literally turn off your money with blacklists so it can't be spent.  All money will flow through the same small amount of mega-hubs run by the banks too.

A lot of people are anti-Mike Hearn.  I don't know anything about him personally to make a call one way or another, but he was probably the first noteworthy person anyone knows about to make a case that if bitcoin relies on LN to scale, it will be a failure due to only being able to function in a hub and spoke configuration.  Regardless of whether you like him or not, I would say he's correct.  So where do people go from here?  If on-chain scaling is useless, and LN is useless, how is bitcoin useful for anything if all it is and has the capacity for is a centralized, intrabank settlement system inferior to gold as Hal Finney predicted would be it's only use case or fate.
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