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Question: May 18 Bitcoin Closing Price (Stamp):
$0 - 1 (0.7%)
<$5,000 - 7 (4.7%)
$5,000-$5,500 - 2 (1.3%)
$5,500-$6,000 - 0 (0%)
$6,000-$6,500 - 5 (3.3%)
$6,500-$7,000 - 15 (10%)
$7,000-$7,500 - 17 (11.3%)
$7,500-$8,000 - 23 (15.3%)
$8,000-$8,500 - 18 (12%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 15 (10%)
$9,000-$9,500 - 10 (6.7%)
$9,500-$10,000 - 7 (4.7%)
$10,000-$20,000 - 16 (10.7%)
>$20,000 - 14 (9.3%)
Total Voters: 150

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February 20, 2019, 03:39:37 PM

I used to be a much bigger sports fan, I still watch games every now and then but I was wasting too much time watching sports.  Might life doesn't change in the slightest if my team wins.  Some of these fans take it too far.  you know its bad when you see fans of the opposing team getting murdered. Saw a video of this in South America from last year.
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February 20, 2019, 03:41:23 PM

I can’t think the bear market is definitely over until we see $5,000. Hopefully we see that in a couple of months.
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February 20, 2019, 03:41:57 PM

Suddenly $4000 wall on bitstamp...
We will smash through it, $4,000 will be ours soon enough.

thats WO spirit, have another beer my friend Smiley

Above $4,000 & staying above $4,000 soon, I hope. Little by little the bears are losing their grip on this market.

Please no please no please no.

Give us a few months yet... I haven't been able to accumulate nearly as much as I want...

More FUD plz  Cry
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February 20, 2019, 03:42:44 PM

I must have been unclear when I said I wasn’t going to discuss it with you because you have got big old bags and only talk your book

Yet my 'book' has 'bags' on both sides of this argument. If you're going to claim that necessarily invalidates one's viewpoints, then I am free of such taint, while you are fully complicit (assuming your bags are free of Bitcoin Cash, which you seem to imply).

Not to mention, of course, that you continue to discuss it.
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February 20, 2019, 03:45:05 PM
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thread is speeding up
hard to keep up with the tip
sign of coming bull?
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February 20, 2019, 03:48:21 PM

thread is speeding up
hard to keep up with the tip
sign of coming bull?

But bull for ?

For which protocol?
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February 20, 2019, 03:50:00 PM

thread is speeding up
hard to keep up with the tip
sign of coming bull?

But bull for ?

For which protocol?


Bitcoin or he should GTFO Cheesy
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February 20, 2019, 03:50:37 PM

I'm perplexed why so many people continue to jump into mining.  You are nearly always better off just buying coins instead.
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February 20, 2019, 03:52:01 PM

Problem is that nocoiners and the new crypto enthusiast will fall for this scams and they will buy into bCash before even introduced to the real Bitcoin.

Well, from a protocol aspect, SV does have more in common with the original Bitcoin protocol than does BTC.

#justsayin'

still pumping (supposedly defending) bcash, trash?    #yeahright Roll Eyes

Just making a point. Do you wish to argue the contrary view? Again: from a protocol aspect, SV does have more in common with the original Bitcoin protocol than does BTC.

Let me give you the benefit of the doubt in regards to your "original vision" claims.  Even if true, such supposed alignment with bitcoin's original vision is not going to make any kind of impact if the shit does not work because the vast majority of the community (more than 95%) has moved on to various upgrades, which seems to be the case in regards to where bitcoin is at today versus bcash sv... 

So you cede the point. Great. We're making progress.

I'm gonna cede the point that the majority of the community prefers BTC to BCH or SV. For the time being.

Though I am not going to cede your ridiculous claim that 'shit does not work'. Both BCH and SV work beautifully. And they will continue to work when usage once again strangles BTC, rendering it once again unusable. Which will likely have a salutary effect upon the relative preferences for BTC and its larger-blocked brethren.
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February 20, 2019, 03:54:10 PM

I'm perplexed why so many people continue to jump into mining.  You are nearly always better off just buying coins instead.

Somebody posted an image a while back showing how much in USD terms it costs to mine (per coin) in different parts of the world. In Venezuela it is something like $300 - $400. Ridiculously cheap but the authorities don’t like it much there & you might have to bribe them etc.

Who feels like setting up a mining farm in Venezuela Wink
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February 20, 2019, 03:56:01 PM

Leverage long (or leverage whatever) (especially 80x) is a nearly a certain way to ensure that you don't have much if any BTC in the long run. 

Obviously I was exaggerating JJG, based on goldking's famous long.
Not many places you can do that anyways.

Personally, I don't see any need for any leverage, and moreso with going BTC long, and part of the reason is the additional complications in attempting to calculate and to prepare yourself for either price direction. 

There seem to be some traders who are able to balance that practice in a way that is both prudent and profitable, but those with margin trading skills and finess seem to be the exception rather than the rule.
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February 20, 2019, 03:57:42 PM

Yeh lets abandon the Bitcoin Network and jump on xrp version 2 lightning network (LN) instead.

I beg your pardon ?

Lightning IS Bitcoin.

Lightning transactions are not on chain, so they are therefore not Bitcoin transactions. So if LN txs are not Bitcoin txs, it follows that ...

I'm not trying to claim that LN is useless. It will likely have benefits for some limited applications. But to pin BTC's future on it when simpler methods were available... smh.

Going to have to pull you up on that one mate... LN Opens and Closed channel onchain. therefore they are BTC transactions.

Just no. The opening and the closing are Bitcoin transactions. All the in-channel transactions are NOT Bitcoin transactions. Sorry. This should be obvious.

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On another note, i don't know why people are discounting LN. This is some awesome development/technology. What you see now may be different in 5 -10 years from now, there alot of smart people with forward thinking minds.

I'm only 'discounting' LN against the absurd claims made for it. As a layer 2 protocol, I'm completely whatevs with whatever all y'all want to do with a layer 2 thingy. The galling thing is that the underlying base protocol was intentionally crippled in order to implement LN. The fact that such crippling wasn't even necessary only adds insult to injury, and calls into question the motives and wisdom of those who advocated for such.
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February 20, 2019, 04:03:33 PM
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Problem is that nocoiners and the new crypto enthusiast will fall for this scams and they will buy into bCash before even introduced to the real Bitcoin.

Well, from a protocol aspect, SV does have more in common with the original Bitcoin protocol than does BTC.

#justsayin'

still pumping (supposedly defending) bcash, trash?    #yeahright Roll Eyes

Just making a point. Do you wish to argue the contrary view? Again: from a protocol aspect, SV does have more in common with the original Bitcoin protocol than does BTC.

Let me give you the benefit of the doubt in regards to your "original vision" claims.  Even if true, such supposed alignment with bitcoin's original vision is not going to make any kind of impact if the shit does not work because the vast majority of the community (more than 95%) has moved on to various upgrades, which seems to be the case in regards to where bitcoin is at today versus bcash sv... 

So you cede the point. Great. We're making progress.

I'm gonna cede the point that the majority of the community prefers BTC to BCH or SV. For the time being.

Though I am not going to cede your ridiculous claim that 'shit does not work'. Both BCH and SV work beautifully. And they will continue to work when usage once again strangles BTC, rendering it once again unusable. Which will likely have a salutary effect upon the relative preferences for BTC and its larger-blocked brethren.

In other words, you and your boys are attempting to plan another coordinated spam attack on the bitcoin blockchain at the right time.   That is if they have any money left in their coffers to attempt to sustain such a hopefully effective attack..   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  Good luck with that   (NOT).   Tongue Tongue
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February 20, 2019, 04:05:41 PM



Please no please no please no.

Give us a few months yet... I haven't been able to accumulate nearly as much as I want...

More FUD plz  Cry
No!!
I am ready for the bull but first $4k 🙂
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February 20, 2019, 04:07:55 PM
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Bitcoin terms featured in today’a Word Sleuth puzzle. We hit the big time now!


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hmmmmm

using tiny imperfections in a chip's silicon to generate key entropy

interesting

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-02/ru-rur022019.php
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February 20, 2019, 04:08:53 PM

BCH is still a top 10 coin with over $500m in daily trading volume

You trying to NOT win WO thread friends, angel55?  

Do you wish to argue the facts asserted, JJG, or do you just want to sling shit?
Thanks a fucking lot, you know JJG is going to post a 13 paragraph post of just rambling and bullshit now. Did you really have to bait him like this?

Yeah, defend jbreher and his bcash shilling, you fuck twat.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Not defending him, I hate Bcash more than any other crypto, (XRP comes shortly after) I just also don't need to read a page long fight with exactly zero changes in alignment on where everyone stands.
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February 20, 2019, 04:11:10 PM

"Fiat would be the new go-to currency for criminals"


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I must have been unclear when I said I wasn’t going to discuss it with you because you have got big old bags and only talk your book

Hopefully, there is someone out there to pump that shit for jbreher (oh jbreher is that someone).

So this bcash shill, big block fanboy who tries to tell naive folks in bitcoin forums they should abandon their valuable btc and buy this scammy shitcoin is still around here?

Well, there goes the respect I had for you. You better check your fucking assumptions, boyo. I have never advocated that people abandon their BTC for BCH or SV. The fact that I advocate the big block branches of the Bitcoin family tree -- from a technical viewpoint -- does not make me someone who tries to talk anyone into anything. Except maybe being a bit more discerning.

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Either completely masochistic or - much more likely - paid shill.

Haha. Again with the shit slinging. You have no fucking idea. So why don't you just shut up regarding things about which you do not know.

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I wonder how many of those who believed the ongoing misleading, scammy posts of this shill have lost money because they bought worthless bcash.

misleading and scammy, eh? Care to argue any of the points I have made? Probably not, as you demonstrably would rather just attack a strawman meant to represent me.

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and even after all his arguments are proven to be misleading/false,

Which arguments have been proven false? Quotes or links to such, please.

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even after loosing all the battles, even after the split, even after complete defeat, he still comes back in here and keeps shilling with the same lame arguments that weren´t true the first few rounds.

Pretty much only when false statements need correcting. Deal with it.

Incidentally, see my sidesig. Which may be a cheap shot, but at least it is based upon objective reality, as opposed to your slanderous character assassination.

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shame on this guy. doesn´t seem to have even the slightest trace of honor in him.

No honor, eh? You would rather let lies, slander, and mistruth stand as the record? Nay, that is dishonorable.

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very sad. why the fuck he isn´t posting in bcash forums,

I am unaware of any 'bcash forums'. If you mean fora dedicated to Bitcoin Cash, I do. What of it?

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why here?

Because this is the epicenter of the Bitcoin community.

I mean, if you want to argue against my assertion that: from a protocol standpoint, both BCH and SV have more in common with the original Bitcoin protocol than does BTC. But everyone who has saddled up that horse has so far been dispatched. Care to give it a go?

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paid.

Abso-fucking-lutely false. Prove it. Put up or shut up.

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disgusting.

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February 20, 2019, 04:16:51 PM

Yeh lets abandon the Bitcoin Network and jump on xrp version 2 lightning network (LN) instead.

I beg your pardon ?

Lightning IS Bitcoin.

Lightning transactions are not on chain, so they are therefore not Bitcoin transactions. So if LN txs are not Bitcoin txs, it follows that ...

I'm not trying to claim that LN is useless. It will likely have benefits for some limited applications. But to pin BTC's future on it when simpler methods were available... smh.

Going to have to pull you up on that one mate... LN Opens and Closed channel onchain. therefore they are BTC transactions.

On another note, i don't know why people are discounting LN. This is some awesome development/technology. What you see now may be different in 5 -10 years from now, there alot of smart people with forward thinking minds.

Not only the opening and closing are BTC transactions... but also each micropayment within the channels are done with BTC transactions which each channel partner can put on-chain.

No. Only the aggregate state can be put on-chain. (Which, of course, opens up a host of potential attacks.) Not each channel tx.
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