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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2019 - 16 (10.3%)
H1 2020 - 29 (18.6%)
H2 2020 - 28 (17.9%)
H1 2021 - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2021 - 31 (19.9%)
H1 2022 - 6 (3.8%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.6%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 3 (1.9%)
2024 or Later - 15 (9.6%)
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https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/03/06/samsung-galaxy-s10-bitcoin-ethereum/
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So, my next phone will be Huawei!

I'd rather get an LG v40 for the high-fidelity music. But then again, I use my phone almost exclusively as a Walkman.

I do not carry a personal tracking device.
A phone doesn't know who you are unless you let it know.

You keep telling yourself that. and your CPU hasn't been compromised for decades either.
Tell me how exactly a phone is going to know your name and other relevant information if you don't have a contract that links it to you. Or any accounts that contain information on your identity. Cause I'm pretty sure that AI isn't advanced enough to guess solely based on behaviour or otherwise read your mind right now.


3 letter agencies could identify you based on: payment information (if using a credit card or most crypto), GPS and cell tower tracking data, recorded conversations, text, emails, website & web services logins, wifi network data, etc.
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Its hopeless to resist Bears. You cant sell as fast as Jack Dorsey is buying.
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I really wanted to see his face when he tried to steal coins out of this Bitcoin ATM  Cheesy

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Is Binance coin superior to Bitcoin Cash bCash?



Binance coin is on the verge overtaking bCash  Tongue
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I do not carry a personal tracking device.
A phone doesn't know who you are unless you let it know.

You keep telling yourself that. and your CPU hasn't been compromised for decades either.
Tell me how exactly a phone is going to know your name and other relevant information if you don't have a contract that links it to you. Or any accounts that contain information on your identity. Cause I'm pretty sure that AI isn't advanced enough to guess solely based on behaviour or otherwise read your mind right now.


3 letter agencies could identify you based on: payment information (if using a credit card or most crypto), GPS and cell tower tracking data, recorded conversations, text, emails, website & web services logins, wifi network data, etc.
Well aware of all that and I repeat:

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Just making the point that if someone was worried about tracking on their phone they can fairly easily circumnavigate that issue.
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Patently false. I sold no-where near ~$5,000 USD of the top. Sold as it was crashing down from the top, and I started panicking.

Nowhere near $5000 off the top you say?  There's a quote below of you selling $1 million worth at $14.5k.  You sold around $5 million worth from what I can tell altogther while posting bull spam the entire time telling everyone else to buy or "hodl".  By your own admission in the quotes below, you were telling everyone else to buy or "hodl" after you had already extracted "an obsecene amount of fiat".  If you actually believed the price was going higher or even believed bitcoin was a store of value at all, you would be buying instead of selling.  Instead, you were dumping like mad and then posting bull spam while doing it and afterwards. 

In chronological order:

Don't trust anyone

I'm totally fucked at Coinbase. Sitting on an obscene amount of fiat from a recent sale, but don't have access to my Funding/Withdrawal page.

Having one really fucking bad time trying to pull out lots of cash from Coinbase.

CHOO-CHOO TOWARDS $20K MOTHERFUCKERS !!!

Saddle up boys. Time to ride that bull !

BTC buying opportunity.

LOL.  Here's betting we're flirting with $18k by Friday.

Ok. Extracted just north of $1M @ $14,500 USD/BTC.

Once the wire hits my account, I'll load up for round 2.

Who SODL'd the bottom ?
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Perhaps our Roach and his future lover Gembitz were slain as the bear market morphed into a new Baby Bull Market.  Wink

I am not going to go so far as to say that there is no such thing as a "baby bull market" but surely we are not in such a market yet.

The evidence seems pretty strong that we are currently in a bear market... however, subsequently, if the current bottom of $3,122 is not breached, and better yet $3,700 is NOT breached then there could be some later BTC price behavior that causes us to subsequently describe this period as the beginning of a bull market (aka baby bull)... but we are very far from such a defined state, and it remains about a 52% to 48% proposition that the bottom is NOT in.

The market has been bullish for 82 days since the low of 3122. For Bears to claim continuation of a bear market they will have to break this low. The burden of proof is on them. Its a Baby Bull Market until then. Bears never broke the Jan 15 low in 2015 and the rest of 2015 was a bull market. We are in the same pattern until proven otherwise.

Its a Bull Market ya know.
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$2500000/$3860=648 BTC, only probably two-five thou people have that worldwide.
At 19780/btc it was 126 btc.
How times change.

 These USD price levels don't currently support true "Fuck You Money" status, for dolphins, at least.

 It's more "Hey, uhh, like, leave me alone. Dickhead" money.

Close your eyes. Reach out with your feelings. Do you feel that pressure building in the atmosphere ?
 
 Patience. HODL.

 

Definitely feeling it.  Big move coming... 70/30 it's an up move IMHO.  (Boy oh boy it's gonna be nasty if it's down)
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Tell me how exactly a phone is going to know your name and other relevant information if you don't have a contract that links it to you. Or any accounts that contain information on your identity. Cause I'm pretty sure that AI isn't advanced enough to guess solely based on behaviour or otherwise read your mind right now.

wow

ummm, that isn't very hard at all...who do you call?  Where does the phone stop for long periods?  What do the people who text you have your contact saved as?
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Perhaps our Roach and his future lover Gembitz were slain as the bear market morphed into a new Baby Bull Market.  Wink

I am not going to go so far as to say that there is no such thing as a "baby bull market" but surely we are not in such a market yet.

The evidence seems pretty strong that we are currently in a bear market... however, subsequently, if the current bottom of $3,122 is not breached, and better yet $3,700 is NOT breached then there could be some later BTC price behavior that causes us to subsequently describe this period as the beginning of a bull market (aka baby bull)... but we are very far from such a defined state, and it remains about a 52% to 48% proposition that the bottom is NOT in.

The market has been bullish for 82 days since the low of 3122. For Bears to claim continuation of a bear market they will have to break this low. The burden of proof is on them.

There is no burden of proof, diptwat.  This is merely an assessment of whether you believe that the probabilities for up are greater than down or vice-versa.  The fact that you are counting every day since the last bottom and calling it a "baby bull market" shows your level of ridiculousness.  Yes, it is a fact that there has been 82 days since the lowest point of this current correction, but that does not cause any kind of convincing evidence that the bottom is not going to be tested again. or even breached.  

We can argue about whether the probabilities are 52% that the bottom will be tested (as I might suggest) or perhaps you can provide a lower probability, such as 20% or 10%, whatever is your level of confidence that the "bottom is in.'


Its a Baby Bull Market until then.

You can make wishes all that you want, and you come off as a dipwad troll in my thinking of your non-substantiated wishful thinking - that may end up coming true, even though the odds seem against it, at the moment.


Bears never broke the Jan 15 low in 2015 and the rest of 2015 was a bull market.

Bullshit.  The whole of 2015 was a flat and depressing period for a lot of BTC HODLers with fear that the January 15 low of $152 would have been tested again.  Even though such low was not achieved again, there were several ongoing unsuccessful attempts to bring BTC prices below $200,  and accordingly, it is NOT accurate to describe that  2015 period as bullish in any kind of way, whatsoever, even upon a retrospective analysis.  For example, even at the end of August 2015, there was an attempt to bring prices below $200 that only got down to $205 or something like that, but the bull market did not really begin until about late October 2015, and such bullmarket was not really confidently confirmed until minimally in the middle of 2016, and some people did not even have sufficient confidence of such bullmarket until early 2017 when we got over the scare back down to $890-ish.  Subsequently, it is pretty clear; however, that such bullmarket really began in October 2015, even though it was not confirmed at the time (by anyone reasonable.. and likely there were some troll nutjobs like you around who were spreading bullshit false hope nonsense throughout 2015 and even into 2016 way before the matter was even close to being confirmed).



We are in the same pattern until proven otherwise.

no we are not.


Its a Bull Market ya know.

The only evidence of a bull market is the evidence of your spreading various forms of bullshit and false hope.  I don't know your purpose, but you are truly disingenuos with your attempt to impose bullshit and unreal pie in the sky definitions.. You are also providing ammunition for bear trolls and shills with your stupid ass nonsense and if BTC price matters go to shit, then you will disappear or change your story... and the rest of us have to listen to shills saying that we were making moon boy assertions in this thread.  Yeah, right..   Roll Eyes have seen that before.. a million times.
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$2500000/$3860=648 BTC, only probably two-five thou people have that worldwide.
At 19780/btc it was 126 btc.
How times change.

 These USD price levels don't currently support true "Fuck You Money" status, for dolphins, at least.

 It's more "Hey, uhh, like, leave me alone. Dickhead" money.

Close your eyes. Reach out with your feelings. Do you feel that pressure building in the atmosphere ?
 
 Patience. HODL.

 

Definitely feeling it.  Big move coming... 70/30 it's an up move IMHO.  (Boy oh boy it's gonna be nasty if it's down)

Define BIG.

First of all if we get past $4,200 that would b really great.  I expect decent resistance in the $4,500 arena.. so it would be greatly appreciated if BTC prices could get above that area of resistance (even if temporary).
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First of all if we get past $4,200 that would b really great. 

Seeing this would trigger another run, I would be happy if this time we get past $4,200 which we failed to break before.

This time I am expecting a stronger rally compared to the previous one.
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Big move coming... 70/30 it's an up move IMHO.  (Boy oh boy it's gonna be nasty if it's down)

There are only two possibilities:

1)  The US govt did not create bitcoin and thus dislike it in some manner.  They would attempt to cap it's price with ESF dark pools the same way they act towards real commodity money such as silver and gold and attempt to cap it at a few percent over cost of production until the $USD system implodes.  The price would then mostly move only during macroeconomic trends like if inflation skyrockets then they're forced to allow it to go up some.  When the market cap of bitcoin is very low - like $1 million - it's very difficult to cap the price since it can be moved with little money.  Now that the market cap is huge, it's easier to stop it.

2)  Bitcoin is a US govt created scam to try and trick people away from physical metals and into a designed to centralize, non-fungible, permissioned ledger, cashless society slavery system and they will be more than happy to let it rise.  Even if bitcoin wasn't created by them, they seem to still love the idea since evil cult of Judaism members like Larry Summers, Ben Bernanke, and their shabbos goyim slave Jack Dorsey promotes them.  They especially love the lightning network which is nothing more than recreating the exact same banking system that already exists.
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Tell me how exactly a phone is going to know your name and other relevant information if you don't have a contract that links it to you. Or any accounts that contain information on your identity. Cause I'm pretty sure that AI isn't advanced enough to guess solely based on behaviour or otherwise read your mind right now.

wow

ummm, that isn't very hard at all...who do you call?  Where does the phone stop for long periods?  What do the people who text you have your contact saved as?
Still fully avoidable issues if you really care.
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Big move coming... 70/30 it's an up move IMHO.  (Boy oh boy it's gonna be nasty if it's down)

There are only two possibilities:

1)  The US govt did not create bitcoin and thus dislike it in some manner.  They would attempt to cap it's price with ESF dark pools the same way they act towards real commodity money such as silver and gold and attempt to cap it at a few percent over cost of production until the $USD system implodes.  The price would then mostly move only during macroeconomic trends like if inflation skyrockets then they're forced to allow it to go up some.  When the market cap of bitcoin is very low - like $1 million - it's very difficult to cap the price since it can be moved with little money.  Now that the market cap is huge, it's easier to stop it.

2)  Bitcoin is a US govt created scam to try and trick people away from physical metals and into a designed to centralize, non-fungible, permissioned ledger, cashless society slavery system and they will be more than happy to let it rise.  Even if bitcoin wasn't created by them, they seem to still love the idea since evil cult of Judaism members like Larry Summers, Ben Bernanke, and their shabbos goyim slave Jack Dorsey promotes them.  They especially love the lightning network which is nothing more than recreating the exact same banking system that already exists.
Except that you can opt out and tell them to fuck off. You can also process your own payments without any permission if you have to.
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Perhaps our Roach and his future lover Gembitz were slain as the bear market morphed into a new Baby Bull Market.  Wink

I am not going to go so far as to say that there is no such thing as a "baby bull market" but surely we are not in such a market yet.

The evidence seems pretty strong that we are currently in a bear market... however, subsequently, if the current bottom of $3,122 is not breached, and better yet $3,700 is NOT breached then there could be some later BTC price behavior that causes us to subsequently describe this period as the beginning of a bull market (aka baby bull)... but we are very far from such a defined state, and it remains about a 52% to 48% proposition that the bottom is NOT in.

The market has been bullish for 82 days since the low of 3122. For Bears to claim continuation of a bear market they will have to break this low. The burden of proof is on them.


Diptwat nonsense.  

We can argue about whether the probabilities are 52% that the bottom will be tested (as I might suggest) or perhaps you can provide a lower probability, such as 20% or 10%, whatever is your level of confidence that the "bottom is in.'


Its a Baby Bull Market until then.

Diptwat nonsense

Bears never broke the Jan 15 low in 2015 and the rest of 2015 was a bull market.

 The whole of 2015 was a flat and depressing period for a lot of BTC HODLers with fear that the January 15 low of $152 would have been tested again.  

 but the bull market did not really begin until about late October 2015, and such bullmarket was not really confidently confirmed until minimally in the middle of 2016, and some people did not even have sufficient confidence of such bullmarket until early 2017 when we got over the scare back down to $890-ish.  Subsequently, it is pretty clear; however, that such bullmarket really began in October 2015, even though it was not confirmed at the time (diptwat nonsense, old twat needs to go to bed Wink).



We are in the same pattern until proven otherwise.

no we are not.


Its a Bull Market ya know.

The only bull market is your spreading of bullshit and false hope truth.  I don't know your purpose(bc im a cranky tardtwat), but you are truly disingenuos awesome with your attempt to impose bullshit and unreal pie in the sky definitions Bullish Truth.. \

after Jan 2015 we were in a bull market and finished the year much higher. If it was depressing for you its bc you lacked conviction of the future glory of Bitcoin and perhaps you were depressed bc living life as an abrasive asshole of a cunt probably would depress anyone, even a google chatbot. Cheesy

Your problem Ballerina Bot-twat is that you attack fellow Bitcoiners who werent attacking you bc you are living in a miserable state of stress and anxiety for reasons Im sure you are aware of. Maybe you have pissed off friends and family in real life with your nasty attitude and dont know how to react to others in a civil manner. Maybe you have some age related ailments causing you pain and suffering and its making you cranky and salty. Maybe some Ballerina Man touched you when you were a child and you never got over it, I dont know, but something is off with you. Your lashing out proves it over and over. Ive tried multiple times to be respectful towards you bc you are a dedicated Bitcoiner which I try to appreciate, but your salty cunt outbursts wont get you on my ignore list, I prefer dealing with you directly. Eye for eye, tooth for tooth.




As for the new Bull Market, its been 82 days and we are up significantly from the lows with the halving approaching. For it to be a bear market we have to make new lows at some point. Until this happens the burden of proof is on the Bears to prove we are in a Bear Market. If they dont bring us to new lows pretty soon they are fucked imho. Not enough coins and too much fiat.

Its a Bull Market ya know Wink
 

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$2500000/$3860=648 BTC, only probably two-five thou people have that worldwide.
At 19780/btc it was 126 btc.
How times change.

 These USD price levels don't currently support true "Fuck You Money" status, for dolphins, at least.

 It's more "Hey, uhh, like, leave me alone. Dickhead" money.

Close your eyes. Reach out with your feelings. Do you feel that pressure building in the atmosphere ?
 
 Patience. HODL.

 

Definitely feeling it.  Big move coming... 70/30 it's an up move IMHO.  (Boy oh boy it's gonna be nasty if it's down)

Define BIG.

First of all if we get past $4,200 that would b really great.  I expect decent resistance in the $4,500 arena.. so it would be greatly appreciated if BTC prices could get above that area of resistance (even if temporary).

Well there are a lot of scenarios that are possible from here.  And I agree with you that 4.5k ought to be a bit sticky.

But we are above the 50 day (e)MA and it seems to be supporting us even after a few attacks on it.  It really looks like it wants to hold.  And the 200d is dropping down from 5k now.  Eventually that 200d will be at the magical 4.5k... but that's a different bossfight IMHO.

The MACD is tuning up, and the momentum is starting to go in our favour.  And although volume is still lower than I would like to see it is building over the last month.

Finally if you look at this descending resistance (yes I drew what I want to see... and yes that is monerod.exe over on the left)


The first arrow is where we all puked earlier when we dropped from ranging ~6k to the 3-4k zone.

The second arrow is where we are now.  Thing is we don't usually see the price just slither on along in it's current range from here.  Here we either make a run at the 4.5k mark, or we find ourselves puking again, in the 2.2k range.  If we do bang into 4.5K I expect rejection... 2, maybe 5 times.  Then the fun...  When we break it we will shoot back up into our beloved 6k range.  From there?? Well I will need Aminorex's monkey to predict that.
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Big move coming... 70/30 it's an up move IMHO.  (Boy oh boy it's gonna be nasty if it's down)

There are only two possibilities:

1)  The US govt did not create bitcoin and thus dislike it in some manner.  They would attempt to cap it's price with ESF dark pools the same way they act towards real commodity money such as silver and gold and attempt to cap it at a few percent over cost of production until the $USD system implodes.  The price would then mostly move only during macroeconomic trends like if inflation skyrockets then they're forced to allow it to go up some.  When the market cap of bitcoin is very low - like $1 million - it's very difficult to cap the price since it can be moved with little money.  Now that the market cap is huge, it's easier to stop it.

2)  Bitcoin is a US govt created scam to try and trick people away from physical metals and into a designed to centralize, non-fungible, permissioned ledger, cashless society slavery system and they will be more than happy to let it rise.  Even if bitcoin wasn't created by them, they seem to still love the idea since evil cult of Judaism members like Larry Summers, Ben Bernanke, and their shabbos goyim slave Jack Dorsey promotes them. They especially love the lightning network which is nothing more than recreating the exact same banking system that already exists.
Except that you can opt out and tell them to fuck off. You can also process your own payments without any permission if you have to.

The lightning network also doesn't allow mass printing of money by central banks or creation of debt (which creates deposits) out of thin air by the private banks. Pretty big deal that little detail.
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Patently false. I sold no-where near ~$5,000 USD of the top. Sold as it was crashing down from the top, and I started panicking.
Nowhere near $5000 off the top you say?  There's a quote below of you selling $1 million worth at $14.5k.  You sold around $5 million worth from what I can tell altogther while posting bull spam the entire time telling everyone else to buy or "hodl".  By your own admission in the quotes below, you were telling everyone else to buy or "hodl" after you had already extracted "an obsecene amount of fiat".  If you actually believed the price was going higher or even believed bitcoin was a store of value at all, you would be buying instead of selling.  Instead, you were dumping like mad and then posting bull spam while doing it and afterwards.  

 Ok. So it was "near $5,000" off the ATH then. Oops. Oh well  Roll Eyes

 Not sure what your deal is with me. Or with yourself, for that matter.

 You make it sound like I was intentionally trying to fuck over this entire thread, or something, when I was genuinely caught up in the enthusiasm of the rally - Like most of the rest of the normal people in the thread.

 I appreciate you going through and digging through my history. That was a nice trip down memory lane.

 Still failed to make whatever point you were trying to make, tho.

  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 I mean, do you have any fucking concept of meta at all ?

 Here you are, quite possibly one of the most un-hinged people on these entire forums, not to mention an utter failure of a human being, and you're chastising me for my exuberance during the rally, and making some bad calls mis-judging the momentum, and poorly-worded, boastful hubristic posts, while chatting with this community ?

 Yeah, I can admit to all that.

 On the other hand, we have you.

 Whose shit does not stink.

 At all.

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