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Question: Closing BTC Price June 17:
$0 - 4 (3%)
<$6,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$6,500-$6,750 - 1 (0.8%)
$6,751-$7,000 - 2 (1.5%)
$7,001-$7,250 - 3 (2.3%)
$7,251-$7,500 - 6 (4.5%)
$7,501-$7,750 - 4 (3%)
$7,751-$8,000 - 12 (9.1%)
$8,001-$8,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$8,251-$8,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$8,501-$8,750 - 6 (4.5%)
$8,751-$9,000 - 11 (8.3%)
$9,001,$9,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$9,251-$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
>$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
$20,000 - 9 (6.8%)
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This shit is not breaking down. Big money is buying. They are patient. It will creep up till ETF approval on 31/03. Bakkt will come when we least expect. Big alts will push up. Retail will prick up its ears. Hats will happily be eaten. Resistance is futile.



The 2019/2020 consolidation phase in Bitcoin will be the most commonly anticipated, predicted and understood consolidation phase in history.
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This shit is not breaking down. Big money is buying. They are patient. It will creep up till ETF approval on 31/03. Bakkt will come when we least expect. Big alts will push up. Retail will prick up its ears. Hats will happily be eaten. Resistance is futile.



The 2019/2020 consolidation phase in Bitcoin will be the most commonly anticipated, predicted and understood consolidation phase in history.

Well, that might have been the $6500 flat. Almost everyone thought that it was the bottom. Surprise, surprise.
Will this waterfall repeat in this cycle? It could, but I doubt it.
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The 2019/2020 consolidation phase in Bitcoin will be the most commonly anticipated, predicted and understood consolidation phase in history.

Ow that stings slightly.

Except I don’t think this thread counts as the general public.
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I enjoy reading JJG retirement plans... but i bet that when the price starts to move (up or down) you will quickly change them. 2017 deja vu.. greed.. you name it

The likely fact that you might change your plan does not cause any such planning to be futile.

It would be almost as bad to stick to a plan for the mere sake of it, especially if you have come across ways to tweak it and to make it better.

For example, I had never really sold any BTC before October/November 2015 - because whenever I did sell, I would replace them within a day or two.  However, in mid-2015, I created a incremental sell plan, yet when the BTC price shot up from $280 to $500, I froze.  I cancelled most of my sell orders between $350 and $500 because "feelings of UP"... and I even generated so many "feelings of UP" that I bought a bit more at $500 at the peak of that BTC price surge in early November 2015.

As you may recall, it took until the end of May 2016 for BTC prices to return to above $500 and to cause my late November 2015 purchase at $500 to become profitable. It seems to me that I learned a lot from that experience NOT to become so emotional and just to stick with my already existing incremental sell plan.... It takes some practice to get better at sticking with a plan and improving on the way in which and the degree to which you tweak your plan.

My supposition is that if you do not create a plan and at least attempt to learn from the plan by trying to largely carry it out, then you will likely fall into a kind of constant emotional adjustment that you suggest to "gonna happen anyhow" - which is NOT true from my perspective of my way of attempting to plan and learn.


Having almost grown up kids, and being +40yo, i´m starting to find this interesting... https://internationalliving.com/the-best-places-to-retire/

Good to have aspirations.

100x ?? I know it happened in the past, but it sounds too good to be possible in the future. Where do i sign for a 50x or a 20x?  Grin

Yep... you know that none of those are even close to guaranteed - but if variations of such price appreciation end up happening, then it is good to be in it and prepared  (or at least hedged).

Many of us in BTC for a while recognize that similar lack of certainty proclamations have happened previously, so 2015 was a pretty dire period, yet if you accumulated a decent stash of BTC during 2015, you would have already had periods of time in which portions of your BTC stash have easily surpassed 20x and even perhaps 50x and gotten pretty damned close to 100x...   

Past performance does NOT guarantee future performance - but there still seem to be decent foundational aspects in place that cause good probabilities that investing in BTC is likely to pay off handsomely in the coming years.


Dunno what created 2013 bull run.. was it Willy bot?

Does it matter?  We are far past the 2013 bull run, so overall, there seems to be more than just a willy bot propping up BTC prices.

2017 was retail bubble and we reached 20k usd

Are you trying to simplify matters too much? by arguing narrow reasons for BTC price appreciation bubbles?

2021 maybe will be institutional bubble with its trillions stash..  leaves me wondering about the 100x again..

surely not out of the realm of possible outcomes.  I would hate to NOT have any skin in the BTC game if knowing about these kinds of underlying facts and underlying decent odds for future exponential UP.
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February 15, 2019, 10:32:55 PM

He can't simultaneously have a mound of patents (for which core sycophants regularly excoriate him), and not have any patents.

There is no impediment to him having a mound of invalid patents.

Sure, there's an impediment. While the bar isn't so high as to be infallible, passing patent review is at least prima fascie evidence of validity. So are you claiming all of nChain's patents are invalid?

Bahahahaha not in this day and age

So you are not claiming that all of nChain's patents are invalid. Got it.

Are you claiming that any of nChain's patents are invalid? If so, which ones?

I am claiming that Craig is a known con man who is a fugitive from Australian authorities for tax fraud [fact]

I am claiming that the US Patent Office is grossly underfunded [fact] and was highly unlikely to have had any crypto expertise at the time the patents were taken out [supposition]

I am claiming that that a known conman might just make up a bunch of bullshit troll patents and gotten them past the Patent Office which has no idea what it is doing [supposition]

So rather than clarify and defend your accusatory statement, you instead continue to dissemble. I guess I'm done with this twig then.

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For you to be defending someone who is on the run from the authorities for fraud, and claiming that his patents must be valid is laughable.

1) I'm not defending him, I am injecting some much needed objectivity into the discussion.

2) If Craig is on the run from the authorities for fraud, then which jurisdiction is it, and why has he not been extradited to that jurisdiction?

3) I am not making any claim that his patents are valid. I stated as much several posts back. However, you quite clearly insinuated that they are invalid. I am merely trying to understand the bounds of your insinuation. But we all now see that you are unable to man up to your insinuation.
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February 15, 2019, 10:36:11 PM

survived the damn first two episodes
but the GF is happy
good points Micg
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<22:29:36> "rekt_city": LXDX & Interdax are gonna be bitmex killers. They got crazy teams full of Wall Street & finance industry insiders

https://twitter.com/lxdx/status/1093766406368317440


The next Arthur Hayes's or the next Gerry Cotten's?

https://www.interdax.com/team/
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1) I'm not defending him, I am injecting some much needed objectivity into the discussion.

2) If Craig is on the run from the authorities for fraud, then which jurisdiction is it, and why has he not been extradited to that jurisdiction?

3) I am not making any claim that his patents are valid. I stated as much several posts back. However, you quite clearly insinuated that they are invalid. I am merely trying to understand the bounds of your insinuation. But we all now see that you are unable to man up to your insinuation.

1.   Again laughable. We all know you are just talking your book.  It’s just a shame you consistently pick the losing side.

2. Australian Tax Office.  Last I heard they liquidated his Cloudcroft supercomputer company in mid 2017 (which I believe was after he started Nchain).   Read into Cloudcroft.  It’s a doozy.  There is nothing this guy does that isn’t mired in controversy and fraud.  Why haven’t they caught him and extradited him?  Dunno.  Underfunding by the conservative government ? Incompetence ?  They don’t think there is any money in it?

3.  I am not claiming specific patents are invalid.  I am claiming that there is a very high probability that they are all troll bullshit.  You are the one defending this crook.  
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survived the damn first two episodes
but the GF is happy
good points Micg

episodes of what?
sorry pal, perhaps I missed a que.


twitteraties keep posting it, but the fella (character, of course) was shot soon afterwards.
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Ahh, So they pump LTC then dump for BTC, I see. Cheesy
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Nope, crime and violence happens mostly because of genetics, with a little nurture on top.

A lot of it is R vs K selection based.  Things like rats and insects tend to be R-selection and the parents will even eat their own kids if they get hungry.  Since their reproductive strategy is essentially flood the planet with their babies in the hopes that a few will survive, the offspring also tend to be more prone to trying to kill each other off since there's not going to be enough resources for them all (standard African American behavior).

Humans, being apex predators and all, SHOULD all be K-selection based, but most of the darker skin, primitive ones - whether it's blacks, mexicans, or random middle eastern groups - reproduce out of control R-selection style.  Their reproductive strategy forces an inevitable physical conflict where the K-selection groups will have to destroy them or be destroyed themselves by being flooded with endless brown zombies.  That or quarantine or isolate them somehow to prevent them from spreading.  

Instead of trying to prevent them from spreading, the Jews instead flood white countries with these 3rd world people to try and destroy the K-selection groups instead.
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February 15, 2019, 11:31:19 PM

Just so people don’t think I am making things up with how weak the parent system is - Zond LLC was a patent troll with 371 patents.  After 10 years of litigation exactly zero of its patents survived.   Every single one of them was invalid.

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But look at the same data from Zond’s perspective.  Before the AIA they owned 371 claims.  By the end of the 125 “gang tackling” IPRs filed against them, they owned 0.  0 claims.  0% survival.

Source:  http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2017/04/05/ipr-gang-tackling-distorts-ptab-statistics/id=81816/

I don’t doubt that after 10 years of litigation, Craig’s patents will be found invalid as well. 

But I think given your background, you already know how bad the parent system is and are just trolling us.
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JJG? Smiley

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good points Micg

episodes of what?
sorry pal, perhaps I missed a que.


temptation island (complete no-brainer series)

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February 15, 2019, 11:41:19 PM

Regarding the patent talk:
Patents don't have to be proven to work, just have to be unique.
CSW could hold a bunch of bullshit patents in techno babble, which patent clerks don't understand, which perform no valuable or even viable function.
Then CSW can sue anyone who infringes on his (bullshit) patent.
Cue years of legal back and forth, where no-one wins, while it's established that what CSW holds a patent for isn't what the counter party is infringing on. Meanwhile, the innovative counter party is left destitute and out of business due to defending their case and no-one gains from the truly ground-breaking technology they developed.

Awesome.
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February 15, 2019, 11:47:22 PM

Now I'm not saying Bitcoin will be a lagging investment in comparison. Nay, even with the scenario outlined above, I expect Bitcoin to handily outperform PMs. But in discussing alt assets, let's at least be real.

Just in regards to your last statement, above.  I think that i am being real with a suggestion of a 5% ceiling on dinosaur PM investments.

Maybe I just misunderstand your nebulous statement. I read across your vagueness as there being a below 5% (I think your even wrote 1%) chance that gold would be revalued by some multiple in a step function. What exactly does "5% ceiling on dinosaur PM investments" mean?

Do what you want.  I am suggesting that there is no need to invest more than 5% of your investable value in to PMs such as gold, and even that is probably too high, but of course, if you are NOT geographically mobile, you already have a cellar full of gold that you know how to take care of, you might be inclined to hold more.. but likely a waste of time for investors who want to remain more mobile and don't want to learn about various possible rustic channels of liquidation when bitcoin is likely to be a superior asset class that accomplishes the same thing plus more. 
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survived the damn first two episodes
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good points Micg

episodes of what?
sorry pal, perhaps I missed a que.


temptation island (complete no-brainer series)



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