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Question: 9/19 Closing Price:
0 - 1 (1.6%)
<$10,000 - 3 (4.8%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 2 (3.2%)
$10,501-$11,000 - 13 (20.6%)
$11,001-$11,500 - 19 (30.2%)
$11,501-$12,000 - 8 (12.7%)
$12,001-$12,500 - 7 (11.1%)
$12,501-$13,000 - 2 (3.2%)
>$13,000 - 3 (4.8%)
>$20,000 - 5 (7.9%)
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March 05, 2019, 12:51:29 AM

 He is also stupid-ass racist, in the nazi direction.  

Thanks, yeah that I know, I noticed his-her Nazi flag and anti jews's post.
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March 05, 2019, 01:05:40 AM

It's more than that Elwar.

ALL tax levied on corporations simply becomes a line item in COGS and is added to the price of it's product.

Consumers pay taxes, full stop.
Cherry picking.

You can not have one (consumers) without the other (corporations).

Consumers don't just magically have money, they earn it by working for (or running) corporations.

And their paycheck comes from corporations. Thus from consumers.

Consumers pay themselves and build corporations to increase their consumption.


Trying to credit taxes paid to either party is patently false and ignores the underlying reality of our society. Which is also why trying to target tax corporations vs consumers is just retarded tribalism in a new disguise created by government propaganda, the only party that takes 70-80% of everything humans create and then quite literally burns the vast majority of it.


Edit: In case you want to keep your distinction between consumers and corporations then factually corporations pay all taxes (including your income tax).

All completely true except for your last point as you're forgetting about personal wealth taxes, estate taxes,  capital gains taxes (on real estate and commodities), stamp duties etc.
The last bit was not meant to be my opinion, but an extension of jojo's argument. Although in that case corporations would be implicitly responsible for real estate (etc.) taxes as well as they are the ones paying out the income required to consume anything, including stocks and real estate.

My position is that neither party is "paying taxes, full stop". This can be further elaborated as follows (in a way that does not make use of the clear fact that consumers and corporations are a symbiotic agency).


Suppose corporations were no longer required to add taxes to the price of their goods. Then one of the two follows:

i) Corporations keep prices the same, demand remains unchanged, corporate profits increase. As a result, corporations now have more cash. Some of which will go to qq CEO bonuses. Some of which will go into either researching a new product or lowering cost of existing products. Should a new product come out the consumer makes a profit proportional to his demand for the new product. Should production costs reduce then the consumer will make a profit proportional to the reduced costs in the long run.

ii) Corporations lower the price effective immediately and every consumer has a profit proportional to his rate of consumption times tax cuts.


From the perspective of corporations these cost reductions imply a direct increase of their profits be it by reduced costs or by increased demand. Thus, the argument that "consumers pay taxes" is strictly false, as corporations miss out on profits proportional to taxation. (Which I would be fine with if it was a) voluntary and b) efficient, which it [taxation and its spending] is neither).


In either case, both parties are getting screwed over by one that does not answer to anything or anyone and thus burns more money than an Arab prince wiping his ass with golden toilet paper.
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March 05, 2019, 01:27:01 AM

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Haha, When Jihan said this it was the moment I knew for sure that b-cash was a scam/distraction/dead coin/not the flippening, etc. Then Roger would reconfirm every time he opened his mouth. 

Well, that makes little sense. Jihan's outburst predated the bitcoin fork by over a year.

2016 May: https://twitter.com/JihanWu/status/731902686379933697

2017 Aug: Fork
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 i think he posts in streaks (maybe either related to how he is paid or when he has leave from the asylum))...    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Or maybe Mom restricts his screen time by turning off power to the basement.....
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March 05, 2019, 01:54:01 AM

Not that I'm a big fan of Coinbase, but I gotta say that this astroturfed smear campaign against them, urging existing users to #DeleteCoinbase and newbies to stay away, has gone splendidly well. The whale market makers know what they are doing.

Can't wait for the inevitable bull run to start, with all these crying n00bs going "But...bbut...you guys said to delete my Coinbase acct, and now I wanna buy more BitcoinTM because the price is rising fast. Now it's gonna take me another month to get verified again for a new account!"

And also "But...bbut...now I can't cash out because I #DeleteCoinbase! Shiitttt!"

That's a good point. Interesting timing, with #DeleteCoinbase taking place in the prime accumulation zone.
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March 05, 2019, 02:07:04 AM
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Variants of Satoshi's logos, which were presented on Reddit. Which one do you like better?


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March 05, 2019, 02:28:13 AM

Check out this Coinbase announcement.
Say whatever you want, but their response rate is fast.

https://www.coindesk.com/coinbase-pushes-out-ex-hacking-team-employees-following-uproar
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March 05, 2019, 02:28:43 AM

Variants of Satoshi's logos, which were presented on Reddit. Which one do you like better?


Trogdor FTW
Looks cooler in color format. Grin
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 i think he posts in streaks (maybe either related to how he is paid or when he has leave from the asylum))...    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Or maybe Mom restricts his screen time by turning off power to the basement.....

hahahahaha.. you caught me there.  i was speculating.   Yours sounds very probable too, and I like the variant of that theme in which grandma refuses to bring him cookies and milk, too.    Wink
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March 05, 2019, 03:02:16 AM

Mersi beaucoup to whoever deleted that sirsplashalot post.  What with Bitcoin being down a touch, LFC_Bitcoin getting a speeding ticket, BobLawblaw's spirits being down, Big MicG going off-grid and Keith Flint taking his own life, we have enough negativity to deal with today.   Cry
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The first hotel that will receive bitcoin payments will be the Andalusia-located hotel Casual Malaga del Mar. More hotels will be added to the project in the short term

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March 05, 2019, 07:55:20 AM

Let there be pump!  Cool
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Haha, When Jihan said this it was the moment I knew for sure that b-cash was a scam/distraction/dead coin/not the flippening, etc. Then Roger would reconfirm every time he opened his mouth. 

Well, that makes little sense. Jihan's outburst predated the bitcoin fork by over a year.

2016 May: https://twitter.com/JihanWu/status/731902686379933697

2017 Aug: Fork

Well, I guess I was a bit late getting the tweet. Still served its purpose I suppose.
I wasn't following btc closely in 2016, I started to get keen as it got close to 1k again Around March 2017.  My humble apologies, sorry, not sorry.
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There is a certain probability that the hard won $3700 resistance a week ago, turns out to be a solid support from now on. At least it held yesterday, which is a good sign. If this is so, we are definitely forming the next bull market with higher lows: 3100->3300->3700. And if the bulls hold this line, then soon everyone will be convinced that 2018 bear market was just a small hindrance which will be overcome really fast. Otherwise, we will have to endure the pains of 2015 pattern and have multiple bounces of $3300 area. Anyway, the time for accumulation cheap coins will be less than a year.
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March 05, 2019, 08:45:06 AM

There is a certain probability that the hard won $3700 resistance a week ago, turns out to be a solid support from now on. At least it held yesterday, which is a good sign. If this is so, we are definitely forming the next bull market with higher lows: 3100->3300->3700. And if the bulls hold this line, then soon everyone will be convinced that 2018 bear market was just a small hindrance that will be overcome really fast. Otherwise, we will have to endure the pains of 2015 pattern and have multiple bounces of $3300 area. Anyway, the time for accumulation cheap coins will be less than a year.

Many peeps don't realize it but everything below the previous ATH is cheap. My prediction is 6k by summer, 10-15k fall and at least 40k in December 2019 so yes you only have some 8-10 months to stock up.
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March 05, 2019, 09:11:01 AM

Many peeps don't realize it but everything below the previous ATH is cheap. My prediction is 6k by summer, 10-15k fall and at least 40k in December 2019 so yes you only have some 8-10 months to stock up.

40k in December 2019? Bro, I think you’re way out. We’ll see 40k but it’s not going to be until Q2 or Q3 in 2021 after the halving has begun to take effect on the market.

I don’t think we’ll break 7k in 2019.

Obviously your prediction is much, much better but I think it’s a slow grind up for a year before we see any fireworks. Hopefully we’ll see six figures by 2022 though.
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March 05, 2019, 09:20:30 AM

Who feels like a shot of WO hopium on a Tuesday morning?


2023 is a long time in crypto time I guess.....snip.....I'll repost the image for convenience -


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