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March 11, 2019, 10:48:23 AM

Guys, please explain to me the logic of the people who wear these t-shirts.  Does anybody believe them?

More likely them than CSW.
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March 11, 2019, 10:49:41 AM

It occurs to me that there is something infantile about resorting to an appeal to authority as a debate tactic. It's the small child that says "oh yeah, well MY dad says...".

Oh, and climate change is primarily driven by the sun. It changes distance and levels of activity all the time. And the number one greenhouse gas is water.

As tempting as it is to debate the anti-vaxxer sewing circle, I am gonna let this one go. 
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March 11, 2019, 10:50:20 AM

Nice to see some voices of reason today in this world of total madness.

The founder of Greenpeace,  the legendary environmental fighter Patrick Moore speaks out and calls the hypothesis about human caused environmental changes the "biggest bluff in history". https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/03/07/greenpeace-founder-global-warming-hoax-pushed-corrupt-scientists-hooked-government-grants/



If you don’t believe in science and math, how can you believe in bitcoin?
As a Mathematician I believe in (the power of) both. And I've seen enough to know that we don't know shit about climate.


I'll be the first to say that it's completely and utterly retarded to clutter oceans and the environment with our plastic waste and other garbage.

However, climate is a whole different ball park that is comparable to trying to understand the human brain. This shit is just far too complex for our current data collecting and processing methods, even if we had a perfect model for it (which we most certainly do not).
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March 11, 2019, 10:52:18 AM

Can someone translate what this tables says?

https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/1104635332274749446

Wondering how much more they have left to liquidate at $4k

$33 million worth.  In other words, Bitmain is worth about 12% of the Quadriga exit scam.




This makes me very happy. Thank you for posting. Gotta love karma dealing lefts and rights.
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March 11, 2019, 10:56:27 AM


tyvm. Now. Were you lost?
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March 11, 2019, 10:58:22 AM

Poor lil Warren. Imagine being a market guru all your life and all of a sudden missing on #bitcoin

$2051 invested in Bitcoin (at Bitcoin pizza prices) are worth $1,000,000,000 today.

Of course he is not a fan.

#shortWarren Long Bitcoin

https://twitter.com/hodlgames/status/1104779950408765442?s=21
To be fair, the guy is a genius when it comes to traditional investments. Not that that means much in a world full of people who don't know what compound interest is.
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March 11, 2019, 11:00:00 AM

"Bitcoin will run upto $5000 by May"

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March 11, 2019, 11:00:21 AM

Nice to see some voices of reason today in this world of total madness.

The founder of Greenpeace,  the legendary environmental fighter Patrick Moore speaks out and calls the hypothesis about human caused environmental changes the "biggest bluff in history". https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/03/07/greenpeace-founder-global-warming-hoax-pushed-corrupt-scientists-hooked-government-grants/



If you don’t believe in science and math, how can you believe in bitcoin?

I do believe in science and math, that's precisely why I don't believe in a man made environmental change. It's an unproven hypothesis.
This is, currently, fact. And the fact that science has been politicized and commercialized in a way that fundamentally goes against the scientific method is more problematic than any environmental issues that we face. With science we can rebuild anything, without it we're just straight up fucked.
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March 11, 2019, 11:09:52 AM

While pictures like that look impressive, they're not necessarily significant. Humans only occupy some 10% of the land on earth, which just isn't much.

This would also make overpopulation (@Ibian) irrelevant if humans were smart enough to focus on figuring out how to relocate people too dumb to not concentrate in cities they can not even afford to live in.


For climate, here's an interesting paper that claims that CO2 is preceded by global warming, as opposed to causing it. It also claims alternating periods of warming and cooling. Here's a link: https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1016/B978-0-12-804588-6.00009-4
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March 11, 2019, 11:13:15 AM

Nice to see some voices of reason today in this world of total madness.

The founder of Greenpeace,  the legendary environmental fighter Patrick Moore speaks out and calls the hypothesis about human caused environmental changes the "biggest bluff in history". https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/03/07/greenpeace-founder-global-warming-hoax-pushed-corrupt-scientists-hooked-government-grants/



If you don’t believe in science and math, how can you believe in bitcoin?

I do believe in science and math, that's precisely why I don't believe in a man made environmental change. It's an unproven hypothesis.

According to the Chinese government, there is no link between cigarettes and cancer. Western cigarette companies continue to argue in US courts that the link between cancer and cigarettes is only speculative.

Do you agree that cancer being caused by cigarettes is an unproven hypothesis?
I know that there are people who chain smoke and live happy healthy lives well into their 80s and 90s.

Whether you'll get cancer depends on many factors, such as your genetic make-up, your mentality, and your overall lifestyle.

So no, it's not proven that cigarettes de facto cause cancer. They correlate with an increased risk of such, the reasons for which are not fully understood. If they were we would've identified a counter-mechanism to it by now.


This is the problem with science and people who don't understand statistics arguing about it by the way. This includes most scientists who never studied statistics rigorously and only know how to run shitty t-tests and compute confidence intervals, σ-values and whatnot.
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March 11, 2019, 11:15:11 AM

Guys, please explain to me the logic of the people who wear these t-shirts.  Does anybody believe them?https://i.ibb.co/9n20X4t/IMG-20190310-164901-758.jpg

What if i am satoshi Tongue

But f*** i’m getting bored sometimes (i see many WO’s are getting bored :/ )

I start to miss China and the PBOC.......

Who else ? Smiley

Lucky i found myself a PERFECT spot with ??

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And hope Some Will follow

Cheers my HODLing WO bro’s
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March 11, 2019, 11:15:19 AM

Oh, and climate change is primarily driven by the sun. It changes distance and levels of activity all the time.

Sun is a very big and very stable system.
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March 11, 2019, 11:19:30 AM

Nice to see some voices of reason today in this world of total madness.

The founder of Greenpeace,  the legendary environmental fighter Patrick Moore speaks out and calls the hypothesis about human caused environmental changes the "biggest bluff in history". https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/03/07/greenpeace-founder-global-warming-hoax-pushed-corrupt-scientists-hooked-government-grants/



If you don’t believe in science and math, how can you believe in bitcoin?
Show us the numbers.

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

To be fair, I don’t expect you to believe NASA if you are a flat earther or think the moon landings were faked.
This data is irrelevant to the question. It shows that earth is warming, but if you check the paper of my previous post you can see that this is potentially perfectly normal behaviour. Your link does not show that CO2 causes warming and it only covers a laughably small time scale. Life on earth has been around for far more than the 100ish years on that table.

If anything, the link you provide does not discredit the claim that scientists could be milking government grants with real, but irrelevant and falsely interpreted data.

And I say that as a strong believer in what NASA has done in the past. I don't know what they're up to these days, but I'm certainly grateful for all the things they've come up with to indirectly enrich all of our lives.
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March 11, 2019, 11:20:17 AM

Guys, please explain to me the logic of the people who wear these t-shirts.  Does anybody believe them?

its not that, its more like the #MeToo movement

"We are all Satoshi" because nobody knows.


Think this in reverse...…..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SYc_flMnMQ
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Nice to see some voices of reason today in this world of total madness.

The founder of Greenpeace,  the legendary environmental fighter Patrick Moore speaks out and calls the hypothesis about human caused environmental changes the "biggest bluff in history". https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/03/07/greenpeace-founder-global-warming-hoax-pushed-corrupt-scientists-hooked-government-grants/



If you don’t believe in science and math, how can you believe in bitcoin?
Show us the numbers.

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

To be fair, I don’t expect you to believe NASA if you are a flat earther or think the moon landings were faked.
I said numbers. But you don't have any. So you throw out random bullshit in an attempt to distract people and cover up the fact that your position is objectively wrong.

Why do you keep thinking you can get away with this? We have been through this clown circus too many times by now.
To be fair, both of you argue the same way. Just from opposing positions. I suppose I wasn't the only one getting tired of even trying to have a conversation on here at times.
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March 11, 2019, 11:22:41 AM
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^Still in need of 58 sM to wear a hat like you guys,it take too long though.


^^^^^ In case if anyone want to help with that. Grin

Now only in need of 46sM...
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March 11, 2019, 11:25:00 AM

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Hope you get Some more luck Smiley
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I do believe in science and math, that's precisely why I don't believe in a man made environmental change. It's an unproven hypothesis.
LOL how?

1. How could you deny the environmental pollution causing by the industrial smokes, cars etc?
2. How could you deny the fact that we are destroying the environmental ecosystem by cutting the forests?[/b]
3. How could you deny that we are killing animals and imbalancing the entire food chain?
4. How could you deny the climate change?
5. How could you deny the increased sea level?

Do you know what will happen if the last bee dies?
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjID1ugr1fo
1. On a local scale, sure. And while China is clearly fucked, I'm perfectly healthy over here in Europe. Including all the wildlife around me.
2. https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/tree-growth-increasing-world-climate-change/
3. Fair claim. Animals are disappearing. And I don't like it either because I like animals more than the average human.
4. Climate change happens every second even without human intervention. That's why we have weather.
5. Sea levels were higher in the past than they are now. It just depends on how you pick your data.
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March 11, 2019, 11:29:54 AM

Nice to see some voices of reason today in this world of total madness.

The founder of Greenpeace,  the legendary environmental fighter Patrick Moore speaks out and calls the hypothesis about human caused environmental changes the "biggest bluff in history". https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2019/03/07/greenpeace-founder-global-warming-hoax-pushed-corrupt-scientists-hooked-government-grants/



If you don’t believe in science and math, how can you believe in bitcoin?
Show us the numbers.

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

To be fair, I don’t expect you to believe NASA if you are a flat earther or think the moon landings were faked.
I said numbers. But you don't have any. So you throw out random bullshit in an attempt to distract people and cover up the fact that your position is objectively wrong.

Why do you keep thinking you can get away with this? We have been through this clown circus too many times by now.

Go argue it with NASA.  Tell them about your rat theory revelation.  I am sure they will be fascinated.
His rat theory actually has merit.

And even without rats we've known about this for a long time.

It's called population models and they're the first thing you study when learning about differential equations.

Populations start decreasing for one reason or another once they get too large and then either disappear or return to an equilibrium state.

How this plays out in practice is not understood for humans, because we're the most new phenomenon on this planet and thus have no data to compare with.
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March 11, 2019, 11:30:12 AM

While pictures like that look impressive, they're not necessarily significant. Humans only occupy some 10% of the land on earth, which just isn't much.

Humans can pollute a lot more land/water than they occupy with their physical bodies.

I bet that Ganges River is not as clean now as let's say 10 000 years ago.
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