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[Last of the V8s]

Can't believe anyone hasn't posted it yet:

Greenspan: "The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that" [History for Bitcoiners]

https://twitter.com/RedditBTC/status/1111244452809633793

they have, but still 9 hours is a long time itt

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[fillippone]

Can't believe anyone hasn't posted it yet:

Greenspan: "The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that" [History for Bitcoiners]

https://twitter.com/RedditBTC/status/1111244452809633793

they have, but still 9 hours is a long time itt

Ah!
Sorry, I stopped checking literally a couple of posts later.
Yeah, what they are claiming is true: what I wouldn't expect is how candid is their way to approach this: trust is a fragile matter, once broken, it’s hard to recover.

[Last of the V8s]

ok good point. the lizards don't give a shit about their dishonesty, and they enjoy lording it over the peons.
also see: Smollett case, brit parliament, ozzie encryption law, yellow vest quashing etc

[Last of the V8s]

[xhomerx10]

^Anyone have a tl;dr for those books? 

[El duderino_]

I only have one thing to say.... after Some bro-mance @the WO today .....
I went out with a buddy and had Some bro-Mance time @a private sauna (2 times no Homo)

Now f***ing tired and in need for my HODLbed, already to damn late

JoJo take care of them WO’s

Fast sleep while the pump is going

[HairyMaclairy]

Mutha Fukka! time to short.

Someone on Twitter has shown he has a 60%+ win rate....

Who, the person using him as a contrarian indicator because I would believe that without having to fact check.

Yes the guy using him as a contrarian indicator on Twitter was losing money.

[Millionero]

Do you know if they have decent heart stem cell treatment in Turkey?  Panama is supposed to have some decent locations for heart stem cell treatment.  Several years ago, I had seen some publications of heart stem cell treatment in Thailand, but I haven't run across it recently.

Heart cells can be challenging because older theories were that heart cells could not regenerate, but in recent years some medical studies/applications are finding that certain kinds of cells can be used, such as placenta cells (or certain stem cell treatment applications) that cause some new heart cell growth.

In the USA... some of the issues with heart stem cell treatment is cost and insurance approval.  But it is also more limited in terms of what kinds of cells that they are able to use (can only use your own stem cells in many circumstances).  I think placenta cells have been shown amongst the better of heart regenerative, but are not allowed to be used or studied in the USA.

In Bangkok I know of a clinic that uses umbilical blood / placental stem cells.  You can get them injected in an arthritic joint.  I think that clinic does cosmetic treatments too.  Don't know about cardiac.

[HairyMaclairy]

BTW: Binance Lite Australia offers 50% off for transaction fee

The standard trading fee is 5%.  50% off is 2.5%. You would have to be a very dumb bunny to pay 2.5%.

Also their sell price is about 0.5% higher than you can get on an exchange so you are actually paying 3%.  

Huh?  Can you provide a link for that?  Seems like your decimal might be in the wrong place, because a vast majority of exchanges are trading less than .5%, and I seem to recall that last year, Gemini had gone up to 1.5%, and even they had to back off of that - so Gemini remains among the highest of fees with 1% fees.

https://binancelite.com


Also the word “exchange” is misleading.  You can buy Bitcoin from Binance at their set price but cannot sell it back to them. This is a service designed for shitcoiners to onboard them into the Binance exchange.  

O.k.... You are not making it up... but that is not trading fees but instead the initial fees to get into the system.  

Hadn't I read that in Australia there were a lot of limitations or lack of connection with ways to onboard from fiat and into BTC... so perhaps, lack of competition is causing the onboarding fees to be higher in Australia?  and it is not just about altcoins, but getting into any crypto from Australia, including BTC?

 There were some problems with banking accounts getting canceled early on, but no worse than anywhere else.  Those problems have been fixed.

Australia now has a fully competitive crypto market.   I don’t think that Binance is going to get any traction except maybe among newbies (which are few and far between)

They have instant bank transfers in Australia so going to a newsagent to pay cash is a bit of a waste of time.  

[JayJuanGee]

BTW: Binance Lite Australia offers 50% off for transaction fee

The standard trading fee is 5%.  50% off is 2.5%. You would have to be a very dumb bunny to pay 2.5%.

Also their sell price is about 0.5% higher than you can get on an exchange so you are actually paying 3%.  

Huh?  Can you provide a link for that?  Seems like your decimal might be in the wrong place, because a vast majority of exchanges are trading less than .5%, and I seem to recall that last year, Gemini had gone up to 1.5%, and even they had to back off of that - so Gemini remains among the highest of fees with 1% fees.

https://binancelite.com


Also the word “exchange” is misleading.  You can buy Bitcoin from Binance at their set price but cannot sell it back to them. This is a service designed for shitcoiners to onboard them into the Binance exchange. 

O.k.... You are not making it up... but that is not trading fees but instead the initial fees to get into the system. 

Hadn't I read that in Australia there were a lot of limitations or lack of connection with ways to onboard from fiat and into BTC... so perhaps, lack of competition is causing the onboarding fees to be higher in Australia?  and it is not just about altcoins, but getting into any crypto from Australia, including BTC?

 There were some problems with banking accounts getting canceled early on, but no worse than anywhere else.

Australia now has a fully competitive crypto market.   I don’t think that Binance is going to get any traction except maybe among newbies (which are few and far between)

O.k.  Thanks... .just seems strange then, because you negated my attempts at explanations.. I have no problem with companies attempting to receive as many fees as the market can bear, but in this case, doesn't seem like Binance has any solid approach, unless they are just pricing the product high because of regulatory risk.   Binance is known for being a low fee trader. 

Accordingly, Binance is not really known for onramping of peeps from fiat systems... so maybe they are charging high fees because that is NOT really the business that they want to be in, but they figure that some people (newbies, like you say) are still going to want to onramp through them because of Binance's increasing name recognition.

[HairyMaclairy]

I think it is an Australian company that is doing it, and they are just licensing the Binance name.

CZ doesn’t care he just wants money

[xhomerx10]

^Anyone have a tl;dr for those books? 

(((Them))) oppressing us.

 The only one I didn't get through was The Handmaid's tale; having already read Atlas Shrugged, I felt like I was in for another excruciatingly painful read and I just couldn't.  Maybe someday, if somebody threatens to burn all the copies of that book... Naw.

 https://youtu.be/ciPszqk703k

[Icygreen]

-one question for me personal, those anyone else besides JJG thinks I work this forum account with what he says a "team" ??

Nope.

Are you sure?  I remember some hot blonde chick in quite a few of his photos and a cute dog.  Those 3 could be a "team". Hmmm..... More information needed for a conclusion.

[Toxic2040]

Japanese officials have apparently decided to not to appeal Mark's acquittal on the embezzlement charges. I think this is good news at first glance..I mean its been 6 freakin years since we all were Gox'ed..lets rap this shit up and move on.

http://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20190329/p2g/00m/0na/004000c

The 33-year-old founder of Mt. Gox faced a charge of taking about 341 million yen ($3 million) of customers' money kept in Mt. Gox accounts between September and December of 2013 and using it to acquire a software developer and purchase a canopy bed worth 6 million yen among other items.

He was also charged with manipulating Mt. Gox bitcoin trade data between February and September of 2013 to pad the amount of his accounts.

The court sentenced the French-born former CEO of the Tokyo-based exchange that went under in 2014 to 30 months in prison, suspended for four years, on the charge.

But the court had rejected prosecutors' claims of embezzlement, saying his acquisition of a software developer business was reasonable and transfers of money to his personal account from that of Mt. Gox were loans he had intended to return.

I get all of the stuff except for the last bit..paying for buggy software because you cant hack your way out of a wet paper sack...check. Big floofy bed...check..a mans gotta sleep right?  Its this last sentence that I pause at...hmmm. Somebody help me here.  Oh well, move along...nothing to see here.

[infofront]

A feminist circle jerk sounds hot.

[Toxic2040]

Flattening out over the next 24 hours for more consolidation. A breakout would move above last weeks local high at $4.147k and leap over the ATH down trend line. Not hodling my breath but anything is possible.
1h


Sometimes for me..its hard to distinguish the forest from the trees if you know what I mean. To mitigate false positives and other noise from the chart I sometimes turn off the candles and just look at what the Cloud is trying to say. Looks like a big ol' bowl of guacamole to me..but hey, I am hungry. #dyor
4h

#stronghands'19
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p.s. Hey infofront...I see what you did there..so I had to vote for dumpage. My answer might have differed without the inclusion of bcash.

Time for a new poll? 

[infofront]

Yeah it's time for a new poll.

Final results from the last one:

[jojo69]

^Anyone have a tl;dr for those books? 

we're fucked

[HairyMaclairy]

The next 4 hours are critical  - we stand ready to break through the final bearline.

[jojo69]

The next 4 hours are critical  - we stand ready to break through the final bearline.

If you disregard the froth of the 20K top you can draw all kinds of resistance between 46 and 4850