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bitcoin provides utility through its ability to permissionlessly transport value anywhere

100% Wrong.  It's impossible for something to qualify as money unless it qualifies as an actual non-perishable commodity beforehand and none of those can be transferred over a telephone cord.  

What the fuck are you talking about?  You seem to be assuming that there is no internet or at least two computers in the whole world to verify the transaction.  At this time, we have millions of computers... so snap back into the real world rather than your fantasy post-Armageddon world.  

So in the real world, if I want to buy bitcoins at point A then I do... there are are lot of methods to buy bitcoins.  Thereafter, I have the option to transfer the bitcoins to point B, and there are a wide variety of ways to transfer bitcoins, including in my brain.  Once I get to point B, then I can cash the bitcoins out, if I want.   Anything else need to be said?  I don't need to go over all of the options because they are going to vary in different locations and also the means of storing or transporting the BTC will vary too.


"Bitcoins" are simply worthless timestamps; it's a fake commodity.  

In about the past 9 years, bitcoin has had a market value.  I will grant you that the first year of bitcoin, there was not very much of a market value'; however, the market value has increased, so we are not merely talking about a timestamp, you dumb fuck.  You may have been legit in making that criticism/assessment of bitcoin in its first year, and even if bitcoin had stayed in a similar status, as it's first year for the next 9 years, but it did not.  Snap out of it.  Snap into reality, and that is bitcoin has a market value... currently a little below $4k.

You're trying to push the fraudulent, Keynesian, Plato school of money that money can be a completely arbitrary, imaginary widget disconnected from the physical world.  Plato was a Keynesian statist and the jibberish you're pushing is inherently the exact same statist position in essence.

I am not trying to push anything.  I am being descriptive, not prescriptive..   for the most part... although, for your own good, you probably should buy some and then maybe you will start to understand it better.  perhaps?  Are you capable?

You're also pretending bitcoin was created by 'god' himself as some type of perfect, flawless creation, when it was created by a central planner human being just like in any communist country and it doesn't even work at all because transaction validators are designed to centralize.  The philosophy behind imaginary widgets posing as money is ALWAYS Keynesian central planning at it's core.  Just because it's designed to deflate instead of inflate doesn't mean it's not a Keynesian system.

You are making shit up... with dumb nonsense.  Sounds good in theory, but you seem to be talking about something other than bitcoin.

Humans live in the physical world, not imaginary 'cyberspace', and the only thing that can be transferred over a phone line is extremely perishable digital data like a Steam video game that might hold some value temporarily through artificial scarcity, but doesn't qualify as money or a store of value.

Again.. gobbledy gook.  Verification of a bitcoin transaction is transported in a variety of ways.. including over a phone line to the extent an internet connection is accomplished in that way... but how it relates to your claim that bitcoin does not have value because it lacks sufficient physicality is beyond me.  

Maybe you should take your emergency proclamation(s) to some other place because the vast majority of peeps here don't give a shit about your nonsense, baseless and overly repeated fantasy fearmongering(s).
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March 25, 2019, 04:26:40 AM

JayJuanGoyim, your Mexican brain is not finely tuned enough to be able to comprehend any of these concepts.  There is no point discussing these topics with you.  There are Youtube videos of swarms of Mexicans that don't even know who Adolf Hitler is for God's sake.
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March 25, 2019, 04:36:07 AM

Interesting stat: Belgium has a very high divorce rate (70%).

Nothing wrong with divorce.

True, but it won't add years to your life (in most cases) and would not make you richer (on paper) as well.
Guys would be limited in children visitation rights (and, yes, in more than 90% cases children stay with mom).
It's all theoretical, as I never divorced.


Which of these life phases are you up to? The marriage phase of your life, or the having kids phase?





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If you wanna say "Hi" to CSW, he's here :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120026

To bad mods already deleted the thread..

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March 25, 2019, 05:28:28 AM

Interesting stat: Belgium has a very high divorce rate (70%).

Nothing wrong with divorce.

True, but it won't add years to your life (in most cases) and would not make you richer (on paper) as well.
Guys would be limited in children visitation rights (and, yes, in more than 90% cases children stay with mom).
It's all theoretical, as I never divorced.


Which of these life phases are you up to? The marriage phase of your life, or the having kids phase?






Everything will be under control when we have some bitcoins. Cheesy
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Meanwhile, BCH's fans are like.  Grin Grin


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March 25, 2019, 05:51:22 AM

Everything will be under control when we have some bitcoins. Cheesy

Don't "we" already have "some bitcoins"?  Arguably enough for UP?

In other words, "we" have been in these sub $6k prices for nearly 4.5 months, and maybe "we" will be here for a few more months.....?  Gosh, as I type, I consider that "we" could be in sub-$6k territories for more than another year... but surely better to go up... even though it seems that "we" should still have enough time to buy a bit more coins, in case "we" feel that we don't have enough.

I guess that my punchline of this post, is that buying BTC under $6k remains a pretty decent value... even while I cannot really se any reason to rush purchases, yet... I suppose baby FOMO won't kick in until about the supra $10k area, and higher level FOMOs will kick in at $17,500 and $23k-ish?
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Everything will be under control when we have some bitcoins. Cheesy

Don't "we" already have "some bitcoins"?  Arguably enough for UP?

In other words, "we" have been in these sub $6k prices for nearly 4.5 months, and maybe "we" will be here for a few more months.....?  Gosh, as I type, I consider that "we" could be in sub-$6k territories for more than another year... but surely better to go up... even though it seems that "we" should still have enough time to buy a bit more coins, in case "we" feel that we don't have enough.

I guess that my punchline of this post, is that buying BTC under $6k remains a pretty decent value... even while I cannot really se any reason to rush purchases, yet... I suppose baby FOMO won't kick in until about the supra $10k area, and higher level FOMOs will kick in at $17,500 and $23k-ish?
Its just for the people who said everything is problem in their life.

Honestly I don't have much bitcoin under my wallet,I did sold them in 2017 for the good profits after that lot of issues here as well but now again starts to buy the bitcoins and hopefully I will buy enough before the prices shoot up.
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Everything will be under control when we have some bitcoins. Cheesy

Don't "we" already have "some bitcoins"?  Arguably enough for UP?

In other words, "we" have been in these sub $6k prices for nearly 4.5 months, and maybe "we" will be here for a few more months.....?  Gosh, as I type, I consider that "we" could be in sub-$6k territories for more than another year... but surely better to go up... even though it seems that "we" should still have enough time to buy a bit more coins, in case "we" feel that we don't have enough.

I guess that my punchline of this post, is that buying BTC under $6k remains a pretty decent value... even while I cannot really se any reason to rush purchases, yet... I suppose baby FOMO won't kick in until about the supra $10k area, and higher level FOMOs will kick in at $17,500 and $23k-ish?
Its just for the people who said everything is problem in their life.

Honestly I don't have much bitcoin under my wallet,I did sold them in 2017 for the good profits after that lot of issues here as well but now again starts to buy the bitcoins and hopefully I will buy enough before the prices shoot up.


O.k.  Seems like you may have done decently well then because there can be a lot of issues figuring out when exactly to sell and how much.  I personally have a philosophy of selling only a small fraction of my coin, just for a kind of volatility insurance, so I don't really try to guess about the extent to which BTC prices might be in a bubble or not.  I like my system, so I am not sure about any plan to change my approach.

I would actually have been more nervous if I would have sold a larger portion of my stash, then at various price points I would not have been sure about when to buy back and probably felt more stress at each of the levels that I bought back more than I should have, and then the BTC price drops more.. but yeah, in the end, if you are able to sell some near the top and then buy near the bottom, you surely don't have to get those numbers exactly right in order to profit from the BIG BTC price moves.
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@zhekinsp you sound exactly like me except I already managed to increase my BTC stash by almost 1.5x from my starting point.

and I have no intention to stop here, still halfway to my @fuckyoucoiner status.

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If you wanna say "Hi" to CSW, he's here :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120026

To bad mods already deleted the thread..


His second thread is still here though.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124203

Plus he must be bored without Twitter, we might see more of him in the next few days.
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Everything will be under control when we have some bitcoins. Cheesy

Don't "we" already have "some bitcoins"?  Arguably enough for UP?

In other words, "we" have been in these sub $6k prices for nearly 4.5 months, and maybe "we" will be here for a few more months.....?  Gosh, as I type, I consider that "we" could be in sub-$6k territories for more than another year... but surely better to go up... even though it seems that "we" should still have enough time to buy a bit more coins, in case "we" feel that we don't have enough.

I guess that my punchline of this post, is that buying BTC under $6k remains a pretty decent value... even while I cannot really se any reason to rush purchases, yet... I suppose baby FOMO won't kick in until about the supra $10k area, and higher level FOMOs will kick in at $17,500 and $23k-ish?
Its just for the people who said everything is problem in their life.

Honestly I don't have much bitcoin under my wallet,I did sold them in 2017 for the good profits after that lot of issues here as well but now again starts to buy the bitcoins and hopefully I will buy enough before the prices shoot up.


O.k.  Seems like you may have done decently well then because there can be a lot of issues figuring out when exactly to sell and how much.  I personally have a philosophy of selling only a small fraction of my coin, just for a kind of volatility insurance, so I don't really try to guess about the extent to which BTC prices might be in a bubble or not.  I like my system, so I am not sure about any plan to change my approach.

I would actually have been more nervous if I would have sold a larger portion of my stash, then at various price points I would not have been sure about when to buy back and probably felt more stress at each of the levels that I bought back more than I should have, and then the BTC price drops more.. but yeah, in the end, if you are able to sell some near the top and then buy near the bottom, you surely don't have to get those numbers exactly right in order to profit from the BIG BTC price moves.
But I think I was more lucky to sell my coins at 2017 for huge profits but the real problem is I can't save much money to get those stash back.Hopefully I can save money.
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@zhekinsp you sound exactly like me except I already managed to increase my BTC stash by almost 1.5 from my starting point.

and I have no intention to stop here, still halfway to my @fuckyoucoiner status.


Good luck for you.

Keep your bitcoin holdings increasing.
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99 days into the new Baby Bull Market and all is well.  Cool

What if bitcoin doesn’t go below $3122 again, are we in a never ending bull market?
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bitcoin provides utility through its ability to permissionlessly transport value anywhere

100% Wrong.  It's impossible for something to qualify as money unless it qualifies as an actual non-perishable commodity beforehand and none of those can be transferred over a telephone cord.  "Bitcoins" are simply worthless timestamps; it's a fake commodity.  You're trying to push the fraudulent, Keynesian, Plato school of money that money can be a completely arbitrary, imaginary widget disconnected from the physical world.  Plato was a Keynesian statist and the jibberish you're pushing is inherently the exact same statist position in essence.

You're also pretending bitcoin was created by 'god' himself as some type of perfect, flawless creation, when it was created by a central planner human being just like in any communist country and it doesn't even work at all because transaction validators are designed to centralize.  The philosophy behind imaginary widgets posing as money is ALWAYS Keynesian central planning at it's core.  Just because it's designed to deflate instead of inflate doesn't mean it's not a Keynesian system.

Humans live in the physical world, not imaginary 'cyberspace', and the only thing that can be transferred over a phone line is extremely perishable digital data like a Steam video game that might hold some value temporarily through artificial scarcity, but doesn't qualify as money or a store of value.  Artificial scarcity is NOT scarcity.  Real scarcity can form a Schelling point, artificial scarcity can only form an endless stream of pump and dump scams while the last one is left to rot for the next one in perpetuity.
Bitcoin is a very specific kind of data that is impossible to copy or fake and will never go away so long as people use it. It is a real, physical, tangible thing.
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99 days into the new Baby Bull Market and all is well.  Cool

What if bitcoin doesn’t go below $3122 again, are we in a never ending bull market?

Not necessarily, but possibly. Fear not, I will be there to let you know with a daily count.  Wink
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If you wanna say "Hi" to CSW, he's here :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120026

To bad mods already deleted the thread..


His second thread is still here though.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124203

Plus he must be bored without Twitter, we might see more of him in the next few days.

I missed this latest scammery. What's he after old empty wallets for?
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If you wanna say "Hi" to CSW, he's here :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120026

To bad mods already deleted the thread..


His second thread is still here though.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124203

Plus he must be bored without Twitter, we might see more of him in the next few days.

I missed this latest scammery. What's he after old empty wallets for?

Supposedly its so he can sign messages from them and then say, "Look, I must be Satoshi!" Here's an archive of the original thread:

https://archive.is/vLfEx

Somehow Twitter connected the cock.li email address to him, I dunno, he must have used that email service in the past or something.
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